PZero N0 widow makers

PZero N0 widow makers

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Orangecurry

7,416 posts

206 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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But they didn't test the MPS4. It's not made in the size they chose.

MPS4 is supposed to be 99% of the ability of the MPSS in the dry, but properly good in the wet too. I have some at the moment. They work well in the mud and cold.

lordlee

3,137 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Orangecurry said:
But they didn't test the MPS4. It's not made in the size they chose.

MPS4 is supposed to be 99% of the ability of the MPSS in the dry, but properly good in the wet too. I have some at the moment. They work well in the mud and cold.
Will stick these on the wife's car when the PS3's finally give in.

Jim1556

1,771 posts

156 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Orangecurry said:
But they didn't test the MPS4. It's not made in the size they chose.

MPS4 is supposed to be 99% of the ability of the MPSS in the dry, but properly good in the wet too. I have some at the moment. They work well in the mud and cold.
MPS4 "S" is the direct replacement for MPSS, available January...

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...

Edited by Jim1556 on Tuesday 6th December 18:02

Orangecurry

7,416 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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If you say so. confused

But a 2016 tyre test, which is testing tyres such as the

GY A3
Dunlop MAAAAAAX
PZ
Hankook
Falken
Conti
Vorti

....the Michelin tyre with a similar payload to the above is the MPS4, not the track/dry bias MPSS.

Jim1556

1,771 posts

156 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Sorry, just presenting the 'official' line. thumbup

tracydeedance

786 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Never had a problem with P Zeros NO on a 981

RWD cossie wil

4,308 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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My 996 turbo came with Pzeros, they were fine in most conditions...however towards the end of their life, prob about 2mm left on the rears, they became lethal in the wet. Had no water clearing ability at all, and 70mph in heavy rain on the way back from the 'ring was bum twitching across cambers/ worn lanes on the M25/M40, genuinely scary unpredictable..

I replaced the rears with Pzeros again, to keep them matched to the fronts. Much better in the wet now, but quite a few 911 owners have commented that they really seem to drop off towards the end of their life, I reckon prob less than 3mm & they degrade noticeabley, which i suppose is to be expected, maybe exacerbated by the tread pattern?

All four should be due for replacement at a similar time next for me, however it seems 996 turbo sizes are fairly limited for choices now, I'm considering MPSS if I can get hold of them.

monthefish

20,441 posts

231 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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RWD cossie wil said:
My 996 turbo came with Pzeros, they were fine in most conditions...however towards the end of their life, prob about 2mm left on the rears, they became lethal in the wet. Had no water clearing ability at all, and 70mph in heavy rain on the way back from the 'ring was bum twitching across cambers/ worn lanes on the M25/M40, genuinely scary unpredictable..
I don't mean to be rude, but at 2mm, I'm not overly surprised.
(especially with the width of a 996 turbo rear tyre)

lordlee

3,137 posts

245 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Nuttcase said:
There is a new PZ4 Pzero out though have not checked all the sizes. It should be a lot better.

lordlee

3,137 posts

245 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Nuttcase said:
There is a new PZ4 Pzero out though have not checked all the sizes. It should be a lot better.
Its is a great tyre - its also rated N0 so the whole internet will know its poor grip and manufacturing defects. In fact I'd best bin them off now and get PS4's....

Orangecurry

7,416 posts

206 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2016-Auto-Exp...

New PZ-4 is still behind the MPS4 in this test.

But as with most subjects on the interweb, you can always find something to support your point of view.