out of the box golf new 7:47.19 Nordschleife lap time

[NJH]

Kicked off on facebook, Dale posted a picture of what looks like a set of slicks sat next to the car, moments later the man himself from SportAuto chips in that they are a 'special' Cup 2 and its a fully legit lap. You have to love social media

[ttdan]

NJH said:

Kicked off on facebook, Dale posted a picture of what looks like a set of slicks sat next to the car, moments later the man himself from SportAuto chips in that they are a 'special' Cup 2 and its a fully legit lap. You have to love social media

He didn't actually say that, he says.

"No slicks! Used and totally finished Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2!"

I

[ooid]

Wasn't this car also developed by one of those Porsche GT engineers, Karsten Schebsdat?

[xjay1337]

Steve Rance said:

My daily driver is a MK7 GTD with a remap. Nice practical daily but the Miss's Clio 182 trophy is a far nicer car to drive. The Golf is very easy to drive quickly, the diff sorts everything out for you. All you need to do is keep the power on. Great fun for the first few times but a little boring there after.

The "diff" (xds electronic one) also eats your brake pads if you push on.

My offside front pad has half the life of my nearside. At 400 quid a pop for fromt pads Im not pleased.
I soom disabled that.

[Porsche911R]

xjay1337 said:

The "diff" (xds electronic one) also eats your brake pads if you push on.

My offside front pad has half the life of my nearside. At 400 quid a pop for fromt pads Im not pleased.
I soom disabled that.

all Porkers do this now

[Steve Rance]

xjay1337 said:

The "diff" (xds electronic one) also eats your brake pads if you push on.

My offside front pad has half the life of my nearside. At 400 quid a pop for fromt pads Im not pleased.
I soom disabled that.

Yep, thats how they work. If you trail brake or trail throttle into the corner, you will get more even pad wear

[Steve Rance]

Porsche911R said:

all Porkers do this now

Generally on GT cars this is when the Diff starts to wear - which often can be quite quickly. You can counter it by fitting stronger diff internals.

[fergus]

Steve Rance said:

My daily driver is a MK7 GTD with a remap. Nice practical daily but the Miss's Clio 182 trophy is a far nicer car to drive. The Golf is very easy to drive quickly, the diff sorts everything out for you. All you need to do is keep the power on. Great fun for the first few times but a little boring there after.

O/T I remember a memorable drive with Phil Bennett (BTCC) and Angus Dawe (RIP) in Phil's "company car" (clio trophy) on the roads around Silverstone one evening. Judicious use of left foot braking had that car (3 up) at some silly angles at very high speeds on the way into a lot of roundabouts. Great little thing. I can confirm that there isn't a lot to hang onto in the back though

[chrisb92]

Steve Rance said:

My daily driver is a MK7 GTD with a remap. Nice practical daily but the Miss's Clio 182 trophy is a far nicer car to drive. The Golf is very easy to drive quickly, the diff sorts everything out for you. All you need to do is keep the power on. Great fun for the first few times but a little boring there after.

Hi Steve

I have an A3 with the same engine as a GTD and have been looking into remaps. Where did you get yours done? Is it worth it?

Cheers

[xjay1337]

Steve Rance said:

Yep, thats how they work. If you trail brake or trail throttle into the corner, you will get more even pad wear

I thought it braked the rear wheel. I also found it was annoying as I was trying to accelerate but the XDS was like "nope..."

[Porsche911R]

fergus said:

O/T I remember a memorable drive with Phil Bennett (BTCC)

I had some driver training with Phil Bennett, then after realised I would never make it as a racing driver !.
Crazy fast guy, and very good driver, the thing is ZERO respect for the cars they drive imo and I would never, even if I had the balls/skill treat my cars like paid racing drivers can, they get free parts and engines ! I treat mine with kid gloves.

[Porsche911R]

xjay1337 said:

I thought it braked the rear wheel. I also found it was annoying as I was trying to accelerate but the XDS was like "nope..."

PTV sucks monkey balls, but allows ave drivers to do faster laps as long as they keep buying rear pads.

[sparta6]

Steve Rance said:

Generally on GT cars this is when the Diff starts to wear - which often can be quite quickly. You can counter it by fitting stronger diff internals.

What is the approx costs involved for better diff components on this Golf ?

[Steve Rance]

sparta6 said:

What is the approx costs involved for better diff components on this Golf ?

Im sorry, I dont have that information, my experience is Porsche only

[Steve Rance]

chrisb92 said:

Hi Steve

I have an A3 with the same engine as a GTD and have been looking into remaps. Where did you get yours done? Is it worth it?

Cheers

I used TDI tuning in Chelmsford. I asked for a map that gave maximum torque. Nice job actually. Substantial increase

[sparta6]

Steve Rance said:

sparta6 said:

What is the approx costs involved for better diff components on this Golf ?

Im sorry, I dont have that information, my experience is Porsche only

OK, if it's another few K it's turning into a pricey DD

[IREvans]

xjay1337 said:

The "diff" (xds electronic one) also eats your brake pads if you push on.

My offside front pad has half the life of my nearside. At 400 quid a pop for fromt pads Im not pleased.
I soom disabled that.

The Golf Clubsport S has a Borg Warner VAQ eLSD. It is mounted outside the gearbox, and uses hydraulic pressure to control power transmission across the axle - it does not use the brakes to control wheelspin. It is completely different to the XDS system, which does indeed brake the wheel that's lost traction.

[IREvans]

Steve Rance said:

Yep, thats how they work. If you trail brake or trail throttle into the corner, you will get more even pad wear

Steve, the Golf Clubsport S uses the same Borg Warner VAQ eLSD, that's also fitted to the std GTi clubsport. My Clubsport S arrived this week, and I was a little sceptical that the diff wouldn't operate as well as a traditional mechanical LSD. (I've competed in lots of FWD rallycars with plated front diffs, so I knew what to expect.)

I have to say, this eLSD works really well. Even on really wet roads on it's MPSC2 tyres, the traction out of tight corners is really impressive. If you really provoke it with the ESC turned off on sharp medium speed corners, then it reacts just like a car with a mechanical LSD would. It also feels completely unlocked under braking (which its almost certainly mapped to do) and is really stable.

This car really is superb....If only the ECU would allow you to left foot brake, the car would be even better..!

[IREvans]

Porsche911R said:

all Porkers do this now

The Clubsport S doesn't have XDS. It has a VAQ eLSD, completely different system.

[thegreenhell]

Butter Face said:

What is rule 1999/94/EG that the car in the video is not subject to?

It appears to be something that requires manufacturers to state fuel economy and emissions data in all new car advertising. If this car is no longer on sale then I guess it doesn't apply as it's no longer a new car that you can buy.