Sebring Soon , great onboard in GT3 R
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Steve Rance said:
A pre sequential 996R / RSR is no quicker than an early 997 cup. on saying that, id expect a higher standard of driving from the other drivers on the grid.
The Grand Am cars ran restrictors too Steve (though in this case the restrictors were removed) but the motor wasn't a full spec R or RSR motor anyway. Slippydiff said:
BertBert said:
But it's not like for like is it?
He has more speed than them.
Great driving, but he is in a faster car. Even I could do that.
Bert
Oh yeh, I see what you mean, he's doing exactly the same here too :He has more speed than them.
Great driving, but he is in a faster car. Even I could do that.
Bert
https://youtu.be/9K4xJJZMdAk?t=971
And there I was thinking he was talented. Silly me
Yellow491 said:
Slippy thats not talent,how can it be ,he is nearly as good as poor sean edwards was!
The 2000 to 02 gt3rs,seems to be one of the lightest later gen cars,not slow even with a h pat box.1120 on the scales!
My thoughts exactly PH ! Car looks a handful at Sebring, LK said a Cup car would've been nicer to drive (and not much slower) due to its softer suspension and slightly increased travel. ,he is nearly as good as poor sean edwards was!The 2000 to 02 gt3rs,seems to be one of the lightest later gen cars,not slow even with a h pat box.1120 on the scales!
He said TRG car and the orange RS cost him half a second or more on his quali lap at Sebring...
Yellow491 said:
Slippy thats not talent,how can it be ,he is nearly as good as poor sean edwards was!
The 2000 to 02 gt3rs,seems to be one of the lightest later gen cars,not slow even with a h pat box.1120 on the scales!
They were very good cars In their time. Competitive. The sequential version was obviously quicker but I prefer the H pattern - I suppose because they were the last of a breed. You can feel the aero benefits when compared to the 996 cup but that are just as tricky to drive. Like all good drivers, he makes it look easy but at 10/10ths they are not at all,he is nearly as good as poor sean edwards was!The 2000 to 02 gt3rs,seems to be one of the lightest later gen cars,not slow even with a h pat box.1120 on the scales!
I'm not saying he's not talented and I have no idea of the classes in the race, but I would bet a pound to a penny he has a performance advantage over at least the early cars in the race.
Bert
Bert
Slippydiff said:
Oh yeh, I see what you mean, he's doing exactly the same here too :
https://youtu.be/9K4xJJZMdAk?t=971
And there I was thinking he was talented. Silly me
https://youtu.be/9K4xJJZMdAk?t=971
And there I was thinking he was talented. Silly me
Yes Steve in their time they were as fast as the 993 GT2 R evo time wise ( Lieb , Berhanrd etc in the Friesinger cars ) were possibly a second faster but they were hard to drive that fast .. they did 1.53 around Silverstone Bridge circuit ........
The GT3 RS was one of the most successful Porsches ever ..... it won Spa 24 outright 2003 and Daytona 24 hr Outright as well as its class in Le Mans coming 6 th overall in 2002 I think ............but in Works pro driver 2.23 at Spa ......... good second tier 2.26 .....but as you say the 997 Cup was a much easier car to be faster in .....
Bit of a Beardy Sunday morning ......
The GT3 RS was one of the most successful Porsches ever ..... it won Spa 24 outright 2003 and Daytona 24 hr Outright as well as its class in Le Mans coming 6 th overall in 2002 I think ............but in Works pro driver 2.23 at Spa ......... good second tier 2.26 .....but as you say the 997 Cup was a much easier car to be faster in .....
Bit of a Beardy Sunday morning ......
Slippydiff said:
My thoughts exactly PH ! Car looks a handful at Sebring, LK said a Cup car would've been nicer to drive (and not much slower) due to its softer suspension and slightly increased travel.
He said TRG car and the orange RS cost him half a second or more on his quali lap at Sebring...
They were not just good and competative,everything was chasing them unlike latter years of the 997.He said TRG car and the orange RS cost him half a second or more on his quali lap at Sebring...
What he was fighting was to be a better setup,every one knows how bumpy sebring is,and difficult to rubber up the track..nothing a set of motons and springs woukd not sort
I remember my first time around the track in a mustang conv s
te,just to learn where it goes,boft over a curb at 100 and the roof came uncatched ,and ended up on the track,a certain drummer was sat next to me,we thought the world had just exploded !!😄try explaining that to the hire company.Go trim yur beard hunter.😜
Yellow491 said:
They were not just good and competative,everything was chasing them unlike latter years of the 997.
What he was fighting was to be a better setup,every one knows how bumpy sebring is,and difficult to rubber up the track..nothing a set of motons and springs woukd not sort
I remember my first time around the track in a mustang conv ste,just to learn where it goes,boft over a curb at 100 and the roof came uncatched ,and ended up on the track,a certain drummer was sat next to me,we thought the world had just exploded !!??try explaining that to the hire company.
Go trim yur beard hunter.??
Priceless What he was fighting was to be a better setup,every one knows how bumpy sebring is,and difficult to rubber up the track..nothing a set of motons and springs woukd not sort
I remember my first time around the track in a mustang conv s
te,just to learn where it goes,boft over a curb at 100 and the roof came uncatched ,and ended up on the track,a certain drummer was sat next to me,we thought the world had just exploded !!??try explaining that to the hire company.Go trim yur beard hunter.??
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Steve Rance said:
A pre sequential 996R / RSR is no quicker than an early 997 cup. on saying that, id expect a higher standard of driving from the other drivers on the grid.
Steve,Thats a porsche club race - so amateur drivers out in their own cars. Leh had to start at the back - for non lap time related reasons as is clear once he gets going.
Many of the cars out there have significantly more power than his - but that lap is a great view of pro diver versus club racer. And Leh could always peddle that 996RS some. Almost to the front in a single lap.
fioran0 said:
Steve,
Thats a porsche club race - so amateur drivers out in their own cars. Leh had to start at the back - for non lap time related reasons as is clear once he gets going.
Many of the cars out there have significantly more power than his - but that lap is a great view of pro diver versus club racer. And Leh could always peddle that 996RS some. Almost to the front in a single lap.
Yep. There is generally a decent difference in speed between a pro and an amateur driver. I must admit though, in my experience in the uk, there isnt the huge difference that was evident in that race video from the States. Is that representitive? Thats a porsche club race - so amateur drivers out in their own cars. Leh had to start at the back - for non lap time related reasons as is clear once he gets going.
Many of the cars out there have significantly more power than his - but that lap is a great view of pro diver versus club racer. And Leh could always peddle that 996RS some. Almost to the front in a single lap.
BobToc said:
This is going to sound really stupid, but is it normal for race drivers to drop down through the gears sequentially like that? Amazingly quick feet from him, I always just brake down to the relevant speed and change into the right gear, do other amateurs do it sequentially or is that the preserve of the very best?
I rally an Evo 9 Gp N rallycar which has a H pattern dog 'box, and on big stops from 5th down to say a 1st gear hairpin, you'd always come down sequentially through all the gears - I find it's the easiest way to keep the car in a straight line (it maintains traction, and keeps load on the diffs to keep them locked)But fair play, that 996 driver is on some pace..!
IREvans said:
I rally an Evo 9 Gp N rallycar which has a H pattern dog 'box, and on big stops from 5th down to say a 1st gear hairpin, you'd always come down sequentially through all the gears - I find it's the easiest way to keep the car in a straight line (it maintains traction, and keeps load on the diffs to keep them locked)
But fair play, that 996 driver is on some pace..!
Thought you just washed them But fair play, that 996 driver is on some pace..!
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