wanted GT3RS, now got a 360.

[flemke]

Harris_I said:

Not normally a good way of deciding a purchase, otherwise we would all be buying Bristol Blenheims.

BTW, does anyone have a good understanding of 360 running costs vs GT3? Just curious - I really do have a Ferrari itch but based on a lot of comment from those who have owned both, I am struggling to justify it to myself.

From reasonably substantial experience of both:
- 360 will cost roughly 2.5-3x as much as GT3 in running costs if you drove it like it was a Ferrari,
- 360 would cost, I'd guess, 5x as much as GT3 in running costs if you drove it like it was a Porsche, but
- you wouldn't, because the Ferrari would break.

Clutch, brakes, cambelt tensioner pulley, suspension bushes, balljoints, etc. Forget it.

Don't scratch that itch or you'll let the bacteria spread everywhere.

[DanH]

flemke said:

Harris_I said:

Not normally a good way of deciding a purchase, otherwise we would all be buying Bristol Blenheims.

BTW, does anyone have a good understanding of 360 running costs vs GT3? Just curious - I really do have a Ferrari itch but based on a lot of comment from those who have owned both, I am struggling to justify it to myself.

From reasonably substantial experience of both:
- 360 will cost roughly 2.5-3x as much as GT3 in running costs if you drove it like it was a Ferrari,
- 360 would cost, I'd guess, 5x as much as GT3 in running costs if you drove it like it was a Porsche, but
- you wouldn't, because the Ferrari would break.

Clutch, brakes, cambelt tensioner pulley, suspension bushes, balljoints, etc. Forget it.

Don't scratch that itch or you'll let the bacteria spread everywhere.

5x as much would be ok if it was 5x as much fun

[flemke]

DanH said:

5x as much would be ok if it was 5x as much fun

Perhaps, but with the back end of the 360 bobbing around the way it does, and the brakes fading, the car is 0.7 times as much fun.

[Joe911]

flemke said:

Perhaps, but with the back end of the 360 bobbing around the way it does, and the brakes fading, the car is 0.7 times as much fun.

"back end ... bobbing" - "brakes fading" --- I can see your mistake now - you were driving it, weren't you? Much better to be admired and respected by all in town, or parked outside the house.

(this is the Porsche forum, right?)

[DanH]

flemke said:

DanH said:

5x as much would be ok if it was 5x as much fun

Perhaps, but with the back end of the 360 bobbing around the way it does, and the brakes fading, the car is 0.7 times as much fun.

Surely that is what's known as Italian flair and character!

[Adam B]

in the interests of balance

DanH said:

Have you seen the interior in a non CS though? It has this nasty painted silver plastic trim. Shocking...

Your having a laff aren't you - Porsche have been charging aluminium prices for its "ali-look" painted plastic bits for years and continue to do so

[burriana]

It is, as has been said many times before, purely a subjective thing.

I have a great 3.2 Carrara and "bangs per buck" is probably the best value car I have ever had ... but I miss the Ferrari horribly and as soon as I return from EuroHoon I will be selling to return to the Italian fold.

I'm not in the same league as Gt3s and 360s and I have promised Vicki that I won't go blowing £40k plus on a weekend toy, so I will be looking to return to a 348 which I loved, probably a LHD TS for around £21-22k.

The numbers argument is a very valid one, I see maybe 50 porsches of some description or other to every 1 Ferrari, and it's that feeling of having something out of the ordinary that I like. The fact that they are works of automotive art is just part of the allure.

Still, you cannot knock the Porsches, they are truly great cars and £ per Lb, probably unbeatable

[talkwrench]

I just knew you'd miss the Ferrari too much Al!
Hows the bent gearbox?

Edited by talkwrench on Thursday 20th July 11:44

[johnny g-pipe]

Porsche vs Ferrari must be one of the great all time car forum chestnuts!!

My take is always the same - a Porsche is generally just a sports car, a Ferrari is generally a toy, Sunday morning/park n' polish fun thing. Ferrari will never make a 924 or an off roader. The two are just not comparable IMO.

I'd love one, too, of course! But I wouldn't drive it to work for more reasons than reliability or cost per mile..

Edited by johnny g-pipe on Thursday 20th July 13:22

[Harris_I]

flemke said:

Harris_I said:

Not normally a good way of deciding a purchase, otherwise we would all be buying Bristol Blenheims.

BTW, does anyone have a good understanding of 360 running costs vs GT3? Just curious - I really do have a Ferrari itch but based on a lot of comment from those who have owned both, I am struggling to justify it to myself.

From reasonably substantial experience of both:
- 360 will cost roughly 2.5-3x as much as GT3 in running costs if you drove it like it was a Ferrari,
- 360 would cost, I'd guess, 5x as much as GT3 in running costs if you drove it like it was a Porsche, but
- you wouldn't, because the Ferrari would break.

Clutch, brakes, cambelt tensioner pulley, suspension bushes, balljoints, etc. Forget it.

Don't scratch that itch or you'll let the bacteria spread everywhere.

Damn and blast your damnably sound logic.

However, I wasn't intending to dump the GT3: instead I would commute some days in the GT3, some days in the 360, but it would never be used on track (obviously no comparison between the two). My GT3 has horrendous running costs, but that's because of regular replacement of consumables related to track work only.

In which case, I have just justified the purchase to myself, as my frame of reference is now so high that running a Ferrari will not feel so wallet-draining. Result!

Or I could be sensible, and get a 355 spider for a little less, see how it goes for a few months, and dump it if it really never turned out to be all that... (but then wonder whether the 360 would have been an altogether more visceral experience??)

[octane]

Think the 355 is a far better drive tan the 360 actually, much nicer handling car, the 360 in extreme is rather evil at the back.

And with 360 values falling trough the floor you can save some money as well