Bad news when picking car up from service today
Discussion
loonycat said:
sjr-997 said:
out of interest how much would the RMS seal have cost to replace if you hadn't had a warranty ?
I did ask that question. As it is only leaking at this stage and they have their new tool / seal to fix it is only about £1500 (90% of which is labour so use an indy and it will be cheaper). But let things go and you'll eventually lose the engine - they're a tad more expensive....
I don't believe that a leaking RMS that is left unrepaired can actually shaft the engine, unless the seal ends up absolutely pissing oil and you run the engine dry, ignoring all warning lights. Worst case for a leaky RMS is the oil seepage managing to get on the clutch friction plate. However, it is possible that Porsche have replaced the engines of some cars with RMS problems if the seal housing was found to be outside eccentricity tolerances, so simple seal replacement was judged insufficient. That would be bad news to receive if you were outside warranty.
The engine replacements due to terminal engine failure have been linked to other issues relating to the bottom end or the intermediate shaft - RMS is seen more like a nuisance issue as long as the warranty is in place.
Only problem with that Nel , is that Porsche have gone a little generic when describing seal leaks .. Everything is 'Main seal' or ' shaft seal' leak , even when the leak is due to a failing intermediate seal,
... I think this is why the word is out that the ubiquitous three letter favourite can be engine killer ....
... I think this is why the word is out that the ubiquitous three letter favourite can be engine killer ....
good news that you can get it sorted loony!
I was in there yesterday to pick up my 996 and I think I saw yours in there!! was the lovely little blonde as reception as she really floats my boat!
Micheal in service is a great guy and he can really help you out if you have any other issues.
I had the same on mine about 6 months ago but they took it in and fixed it.
just renewed the warranty on mine and 4 days later the whole ignition and ECU for it pack up. all covered under warranty and a common fault on the 996 and boxster. that would have done me for about 500 pounds so yet again the warranty has nearly paid for itself in one hit!!
just my 2c!!
I was in there yesterday to pick up my 996 and I think I saw yours in there!! was the lovely little blonde as reception as she really floats my boat!
Micheal in service is a great guy and he can really help you out if you have any other issues.
I had the same on mine about 6 months ago but they took it in and fixed it.
just renewed the warranty on mine and 4 days later the whole ignition and ECU for it pack up. all covered under warranty and a common fault on the 996 and boxster. that would have done me for about 500 pounds so yet again the warranty has nearly paid for itself in one hit!!
just my 2c!!
I've been told by more than one independent garage that the RMS issue doesn't cause any major problems. So, when the car's due for a new clutch get it done then. I'm sure the OPC only do it "under warranty" in the hope that most punters will change the clutch at the same time. Nice little on-going earner for Porsche...
Loony - why the big doom and gloom post? You've got a warranty and it's costing you nothing.
My gearbox is being replaced on Tuesday under warranty (£8k job) but I'm genuinely happy about it as i)it's free and b)I get a new gearbox.
And C2 says stop referring to yourself in 3rd person. It's terrifyiing.
My gearbox is being replaced on Tuesday under warranty (£8k job) but I'm genuinely happy about it as i)it's free and b)I get a new gearbox.
And C2 says stop referring to yourself in 3rd person. It's terrifyiing.
loonycat said:
sjr-997 said:
out of interest how much would the RMS seal have cost to replace if you hadn't had a warranty ?
I did ask that question. As it is only leaking at this stage and they have their new tool / seal to fix it is only about £1500 (90% of which is labour so use an indy and it will be cheaper). But let things go and you'll eventually lose the engine - they're a tad more expensive....
Getting another 12 months of the warranty is about £750 I believe - given that it covers engine, suspension, gearbox etc it should be worth the money just for the peace of mind.
ballcock said:
Only problem with that Nel , is that Porsche have gone a little generic when describing seal leaks .. Everything is 'Main seal' or ' shaft seal' leak , even when the leak is due to a failing intermediate seal,
... I think this is why the word is out that the ubiquitous three letter favourite can be engine killer ....
... I think this is why the word is out that the ubiquitous three letter favourite can be engine killer ....
Don't know if the intermediate shaft problems are realted to a seal - I thought that it was bearing disintegration.
The silly thing is that the "new" Porsche approach from the 996/Boxster onwards does not really give confidence. Rather than making a repairable engine they treat it like a single part and just replace the whole thing, radically reducing their necessary spare parts inventory and saving packets of money. I know that we're in the consumerism age so just chuck out the knackered toaster and buy a new one, but to take that attitude with a whole engine costing many £ks seems like madness to me.
Suppose that my attitude to engineering must be becoming passé and old fashioned, which is probably why I drive a beardie 993!
opcorn:
Interesting thought BlairO re the clutch change. Car hasn't done many miles - however the clucth has a harder life than most as it has to do London traffic but it shows not a hint of slip. How many miles would you suggest would be average before it needed to be replaced? I don't think I'm going to own it long enough for it to need a new one but you never know.
And a warm welcome to our TVR colleagues who have come to share experiences on a thread about unreliability
Still reckon the Sargaris is the hardest looking car in the world and if I was someone other than me I would have one.
And I quite like sniffing glue....
And a warm welcome to our TVR colleagues who have come to share experiences on a thread about unreliability
Still reckon the Sargaris is the hardest looking car in the world and if I was someone other than me I would have one. And I quite like sniffing glue....
loonycat said:
Interesting thought BlairO re the clutch change. Car hasn't done many miles - however the clucth has a harder life than most as it has to do London traffic but it shows not a hint of slip. How many miles would you suggest would be average before it needed to be replaced? I don't think I'm going to own it long enough for it to need a new one but you never know.
And a warm welcome to our TVR colleagues who have come to share experiences on a thread about unreliability Still reckon the Sargaris is the hardest looking car in the world and if I was someone other than me I would have one.
And I quite like sniffing glue....
And a warm welcome to our TVR colleagues who have come to share experiences on a thread about unreliability
Still reckon the Sargaris is the hardest looking car in the world and if I was someone other than me I would have one. And I quite like sniffing glue....
I'd be more concerned about pressure plate stiffening, than clutch wear.
loonycat said:
Interesting thought BlairO re the clutch change. Car hasn't done many miles - however the clucth has a harder life than most as it has to do London traffic but it shows not a hint of slip. How many miles would you suggest would be average before it needed to be replaced? I don't think I'm going to own it long enough for it to need a new one but you never know.
And a warm welcome to our TVR colleagues who have come to share experiences on a thread about unreliability Still reckon the Sargaris is the hardest looking car in the world and if I was someone other than me I would have one.
And I quite like sniffing glue....
How long is a piece of string? Clutch life can vary tremendously depending on terrain, driving style etc. At least if you do both jobs together one comes virtually labour free.And a warm welcome to our TVR colleagues who have come to share experiences on a thread about unreliability
Still reckon the Sargaris is the hardest looking car in the world and if I was someone other than me I would have one. And I quite like sniffing glue....
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