Where are all the 964 lovers?
Discussion
magic torch said:
magic torch said:
Anyone know why the majority of 964s up for sale seem to be trade?
There doesn't seem to be any difference in price between LHD or RHD either?
Any ideas, anyone?
Difficult one - could it be prices are predicted to rise as they become more of a classic? so indy's are snapping them up? Or they are more difficult to sell privately because they fall between the classic and modern status?
Who knows?
All I know is, when i was a teenager I had a 964 Turbo poster on my wall... yum
wildoliver said:
I really don't get why people are so anti LHD
Personally, I feel really very awkward driving a left-hooker. It's bit like being asked to kick a football with the leg you don't favour if you know what I mean..
It's OK with sh1tty hire-cars on holiday but I'd feel even more awkward/nervous in a performance car. Guess some folk are a bit more ambidextrous than me. That and sighting on UK roads is compromised....no matter what anyone says.
Edited by kibosh on Monday 27th November 17:54
kibosh said:
wildoliver said:
I really don't get why people are so anti LHD
Personally, I feel really very awkward driving a left-hooker. It's bit like being asked to kick a football with the leg you don't favour if you know what I mean..
It's OK with sh1tty hire-cars on holiday but I'd feel even more awkward/nervous in a performance car. Guess some folk are a bit more ambidextrous than me. That and sighting on UK roads is compromised....no matter what anyone says.
Edited by kibosh on Monday 27th November 17:54
My 965 i had was a left hooker, and i have to say with all that power i could not relax, it all seemed a waste of time really albeit with that in mind i took less risks which is obviously a good thing. As there is not a lot of difference in money on 964's i would personally go with RHD.
Edited by ED965 on Monday 27th November 18:13
Absolutely no doubt in my mind that the LHD cars are much more comfortable to drive. My LHD RSs all felt totally natural. The RHD C2 I bought earlier on this year felt very contorted in comparison (I hated it )
Agree with Sleep with reference to positioning your car for overtaking, but having done the LHD thing with at least 7 cars I do prefer being on the RHS of the 996 in todays road conditions.
Agree with Sleep with reference to positioning your car for overtaking, but having done the LHD thing with at least 7 cars I do prefer being on the RHS of the 996 in todays road conditions.
sleep envy said:
kibosh said:
That and sighting on UK roads is compromised....no matter what anyone says.
Nonsense, you just need to position the car slightly differently.
Have never had a problem with sighting in LHD or RHD in UK or on the continent.
I defer to your greater experience Sir. Still think you're wrong but hey-ho!
It's not ALL about overtaking either.
Edited by kibosh on Monday 27th November 20:00
francisb said:
wildoliver said:
I really don't get why people are so anti LHD
simply because they are cheaper and people are ill-educated. ive got 2 LHD cars, dont see the point in paying a huge premium for a marinally inferior RHD.
Not entirely true. I feel less comfortable in them - nothing to do with being either ill-educated or the price. And such as toll booths and secure garages / car parks aren't set up for LHD vehicles. I don't use such things often - but the fact that I do from time to time, for me, makes the premium of RHD over LHD worthwhile.
Plus I doubt LHD vs. RHD price gap is likely to change. Can't see why it would. So any premium you've paid for RHD you're going to get back. It's not like paying a premium for extras that hold little to no value at resale.
I'd also say that because of the 'ill-educated' buying public you'd have an easier time at resale.
Edited by che6mw on Monday 27th November 21:03
che6mw said:
francisb said:
wildoliver said:
I really don't get why people are so anti LHD
simply because they are cheaper and people are ill-educated. ive got 2 LHD cars, dont see the point in paying a huge premium for a marinally inferior RHD.
Not entirely true. I feel less comfortable in them
you dont strike me as particularly "anti" LHD, you just prefer RHD. most people ARE anti LHD especially porsche's, its seen as cheating your way into a car you cant really afford. typical british attitude unfortunately. it amuses me how disapointed people are when they realise my 964rs is LHD
FRANCISB said:
you dont strike me as particularly "anti" LHD, you just prefer RHD. most people ARE anti LHD especially porsche's, its seen as cheating your way into a car you cant really afford. typical british attitude unfortunately. it amuses me how disapointed people are when they realise my 964rs is LHD
Fair point. I'm not anti LHD, just wouldn't consider owning one for the reasons stated previously. Agree with your british attitude comment. I have nothing against buying well maintained leggy motors (Henry F - if you're reading this I'm the greatest customer you haven't had yet
) but some people look aghast when I say my car has xx thousand miles on it.I have a RHD and LHD 944 for the track. I have a strongish preference for RHD on the road. Positioing to turn left, ticket machines, overtaking, switching lanes on the motorway all feel more awkward in the LHD. Its not a massive issue and you adapt, but its enought to mkake RHD a definate preference.
I accept there are some advantages to a LHD 911 which negate these issues a bit
I accept there are some advantages to a LHD 911 which negate these issues a bit
Now - in the new year my MOT is coming up, we know that Law 7 of 964 nuttness (see other thread) MOTing your car is a great excuse to sit in JZ machtech and talk loads of nonsense with the guys about what you are going to do with the car.
Now I'm getting married next month and therefore am the poorest man I know - however - I don't get the car MOTed until march when I should have some more pennies.
Now my engine is a bit leaky and I'm going through half a pint of oil every 1,000 miles or so. The guys at JZ are saying that in itself that wouldn't drive you to rebuild the engine. However, over the 16 years of its life I've probably lost some of my horses and that rebuilding the engine has a marked effect on performance with pick up improved throughout the range.
Has anyone had it done and is it worth the cost if you don't "need" to from a leak perspective?
Now I'm getting married next month and therefore am the poorest man I know - however - I don't get the car MOTed until march when I should have some more pennies.
Now my engine is a bit leaky and I'm going through half a pint of oil every 1,000 miles or so. The guys at JZ are saying that in itself that wouldn't drive you to rebuild the engine. However, over the 16 years of its life I've probably lost some of my horses and that rebuilding the engine has a marked effect on performance with pick up improved throughout the range.
Has anyone had it done and is it worth the cost if you don't "need" to from a leak perspective?
hoges11 said:
Live with a LHD for a week and youll be sold. I have had both and would now always go for LHD all otherthings remaining equal. The wife however refuses to drive them ! Which explains why I have both.
Could you elucidate David? Is it that the car is discernably better without the offset pedals?
K
Edited by kibosh on Tuesday 28th November 10:09
Yes, the driving position is so much more natural and comfortable. With my big feet the layout in the RHD also makes it difficult to be precise and hitting the accelerator instead of the brake makes life a little too exciting for me! So I certainly enjoy the LHD more and really havent found them in anyway difficult to live with.
hoges11 said:
Yes, the driving position is so much more natural and comfortable. With my big feet the layout in the RHD also makes it difficult to be precise and hitting the accelerator instead of the brake makes life a little too exciting for me! So I certainly enjoy the LHD more and really havent found them in anyway difficult to live with.
I've got size 8's (big nose though
). So prob not such an issue. I DO have to assume a knees-up/closer than normal to steering wheel position.... which is tiring on a long journey but for me works well when 'grabbing the car by the throat'. It's cool that we are all different!
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