What do you want Porsche AG to do?

What do you want Porsche AG to do?

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thekirbyfake

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6,232 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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With all the money they're earning?

According to a thread in General Gassing Porsche is making around €22k profit per car sold. Not necessarily discussing the relative merits of them making all that money (€2.1b) but now they've got it what would you, as Porsche owners, want them to do with it?

Add an Elise type car to the line-up?
Add a hot hatch(!) S3, 135i rival?
Add a four door M5/E55/Q-porte/Rapide rival?
Add a mini-Cayenne X3-type rival?
Make a 928 replacement (proper tourer)?
Make a "proper" Cayman (full engine range and lsd)?
Make a ltd run Veyron "beater"?
Buy Jaguar?
Go racing?
Reduce the price of their cars and make the same profit by making more?
Keep bailing out VW?
Buy Ruf (or another) and keep it in-house a la AMG, M, Quattro etc.?

Any other thoughts?

dazren

22,612 posts

261 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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My thoughts:


Increase warranties to 4 years like in the US.

Make the GT3 engine the base engine for the 997 range, without raising prices.

Keep their bleeding hands off RUF. Some things are best left to car mad speed obsessed engineers rather than bloody accountants.

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Go racing- build a LMP1 and win Le Mans again

davyboy

746 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Cayman CS - Rollcage, buckets, light, stiffer suspension, LSD

craigw

12,248 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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proper 550 spyder replacement. stripped down slightly restyled boxster with speedster style windscreen, make it supercharged for good measure. Similar to the ruf jobbie.

s3am

1,383 posts

252 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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craigw said:
proper 550 spyder replacement. stripped down slightly restyled boxster with speedster style windscreen, make it supercharged for good measure. Similar to the ruf jobbie.


I like your thinking.



Adam B

27,251 posts

254 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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thekirbyfake said:

Add a hot hatch(!) S3, 135i rival?


that would be great
+ 4 or at least 3 yr warranty
+ admit RMS and PCCB problems and publish universal guidelines re. replacement / maintenance covered by them eg up to 5 years

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

225 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Adam B said:

+ admit RMS and PCCB problems and publish universal guidelines re. replacement / maintenance covered by them eg up to 5 years


and the GT3 split rimms corrosion issue.

Fidgits

17,202 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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i dunno, i think they should stick to sports cars...

Mind you, with their ownership of VAG, it'd be interesting to see them make some serious machinery... a S3 with 400bhp or something nuts hehe

giw12

1,246 posts

263 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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start making cars properly again?

just kidding.......

clubsport

7,260 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Go racing again....

I doubt they would ever do it as they have the Cayenne,,,,but harking back to the RS2, it would be interesting to see Porsches take on the RS4 Avant Plus.

Cayman, Leichtbau spec with 997Gt3 engine, no traction control and switchable Abs

DanH

12,287 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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I'd like them to look after their customers rather than piss on them wrt warranty issues. (can you tell I have ceramics and corroding alloys?)

911wise

1,867 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Have a 50% off sale.

KUB3

1,015 posts

208 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Make engines and gearbox's that won't lunch themselves, meaning eternal warranties become irrelevant.

pj.dickson

21 posts

213 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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How about a buy one get one free offer

weissach

18 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Porsche should build a two-door variant of the Panamera as a 928 replacement. A luxurious long range coupé with V10 front engine that sort of replaces the 928, but with more headroom.

spenny_b

1,071 posts

243 months

Thursday 25th January 2007
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Like craigw says, a modern take on the 550 spyder...lick ...I guess this then approaches the OP's list with the "Elise" variant of sportscar, but I dont mean like the RUF Boxster version, more something thats a complete ground-up new car, so bespoke with no "common-platform" BS, just a beautifully engineered, extra-lightweight, small, sportscar, not overpowered (eh?...how does "that" work??!), perhaps a boxer-4 to save weight and keep CoG low.

In essence, a car thats much like an Elise really!...but no bought-in engine/trans, and no customer field-testing, just something simple and exquisite....wouldnt be cheap, mind!

Oh, and go racing again properly...LMP1 category...petrol too, no oil-burning nono

loach

3,357 posts

216 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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It seems perhaps ridiculous to suggest it given Porsche's roots as a small, family-owned sports car maker, but with a saloon on the horizon, a fairly hefty 4x4 already in the line-up, a smaller 4x4 probably on the cards at some stage and overall production numbers set for 100,000 and above - could Porsche do with a Motorsport wing a la M-Division/Quattro GmbH? This division could offer a limited number take on each model in the range - such as a proper lightweight 997, a Boxster Spyder (as suggested above), a Cayman RS and so on. Call the new division Rennsport and give all its output the coveted RS designator - not the Cayenne, obviously, as that would just spoil everything. Firms like FF, Techart, Ruf, Manthey and others make a fortune doing this - why doesn't Porsche Ag get in on the act? I haven't included Gemballa, because that guy doesn't so much fettle Porsches as put gold taps and marble flooring in them. If set up, the new division should be kept seperate from the parent company and left, to as great an extent as possible, its own devices. A bit like Lotus Sport. Equally, given its task as a halo-generator, it shouldn't be given a brief to make a fortune, so much as left to wash its face so-to-speak. God forbid, with a few quid in its pocket, the Rennsport division might even be able to field a works race car - fancy that. We-Da-King would never allow any of this, of course, the tight-arsed baldy auld misery; but it's a nice notion to think that a smaller and less mercenary division of the Porsche empire could be set up to cater for the sort of loonies that made Porsches the thing-to-have in the first place.

dilbert

7,741 posts

231 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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I personally think they should have a go at developing a small two seat jet powered Helicopter. About the size of an R22, but more refined, certainly smoother, and more luxurious.
R22
As it is I reckon they'll end up spending it over the next few years supporting the VW manufacturing capacity that may not be required!

Edited by dilbert on Friday 26th January 05:27

Rob_R

2,428 posts

245 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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davyboy said:
Cayman CS - Rollcage, buckets, light, stiffer suspension, LSD


craigw said:
proper 550 spyder replacement. stripped down slightly restyled boxster with speedster style windscreen, make it supercharged for good measure. Similar to the ruf jobbie.


I like these two suggestions. Not too radical and perfectly within the scope of the market. I reckon the 550 replacement should be called the 'Speedster' like the ones of old.