What do you want Porsche AG to do?

What do you want Porsche AG to do?

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thekirbyfake

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6,232 posts

236 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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loach said:
It seems perhaps ridiculous to suggest it given Porsche's roots as a small, family-owned sports car maker, but with a saloon on the horizon, a fairly hefty 4x4 already in the line-up, a smaller 4x4 probably on the cards at some stage and overall production numbers set for 100,000

They're already making 100,000 cars (2005 figures), 40% of which are Cayennes. Unless they go down a proper sports car route they run the risk of becoming a saloon/SUV/hatchback manufacturer who makes the odd sports car.

For reference Jaguar, up upmarket but fairly mainstream manufacturer, makes around 80,000 cars making Porkers more common than Jags.

I would like to have seen Porsche buy up Smart and run it as a separate business.

lemon yella rs

254 posts

259 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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An excellent question.
Enter F1 and forget le mans and the "lets see who's diesel is the most economic race" whislt we all love to hate F1 it's still THE top of the motorsport ladder and now maybe fits the more corperate "were no longer a sports car manufacturer" stance ?????????

nel

4,770 posts

242 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Invest more into material technology R&D, so that they can start making cars significantly lighter than previous generations but that meet the modern norms on impact absorption. I want a 911 that doesn't weigh more than a tonne!

Continue to make the occasional tour de force like the 959 and the Carrera GT. I'm not talking about Veyron beaters as that's not the objective. It's important to make wonderfully aspirational cars that showcase their engineering ability and incorporate the products of their R&D - that's what makes kid dream about them and put posters on the wall!

A porker city car, as evoked by Murray? Something pretty, small, LIGHT that handles like a go-kart and has the power-to-weight ration to be a blast.

Still not sure what they should do about VAG. I know there's common history and shared resources, but they are gradually putting Porsche in a position where it will be associated with Skoda and Seat. While I don't doubt the quality of the products produced by these two, it will ultimately lead to brand dilution.

fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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When creating a new model don't just nick as many styling clues as possible from the 911. Lets see designs as orignal and pure as the 928.

ettore

4,144 posts

253 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Go and win Le Mans again with a proper LMP1 car.

If they fail to do that then I hope the damage they`re doing to the brand causes them to go bankrupt. They can then start again as a proper specialist sports and racing car manufacturer.


Edited by ettore on Friday 26th January 14:23

Dr S

4,997 posts

227 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Raise prices further so they can get rid of the ghastly Cayenne and still return the same profit...

loach

3,357 posts

217 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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I think Porsche's Chairman deserves a break. Having made the Porsches' charming but anachronistic family business the most succesful automotive concern on the planet, he's bound to be slightly jaded; and he's no doubt ready for new challenges and fresh horizons to test the limits of his superhuman bean-counting ability. So why not send him into space? Wiedeking'd love that. There are an infinite number of beans out there - alien 'beans' if you will. Civilisations yet to be acquainted with the notion of overpriced Porsche coffee cups, bathmats, towels, tie-pins, clocks, toasters, sunglasses and caps. By the time the rest of us are able to leave the planet, he'll have the galaxy sewn up. Bewildered aliens will be chundering through space in a variety of super-high-profit-margin devices with RMS issues, and will have to acquaint themselves with notions like OPC-spread, brand management and trouser-downery.

In the meantime, back on Earth, with Wiedeking gone - maybe Porsche could get a new guy that knows the value of a Euro, but actually likes cars.

ettore

4,144 posts

253 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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loach said:
I think Porsche's Chairman deserves a break. Having made the Porsches' charming but anachronistic family business the most succesful automotive concern on the planet, he's bound to be slightly jaded; and he's no doubt ready for new challenges and fresh horizons to test the limits of his superhuman bean-counting ability. So why not send him into space? Wiedeking'd love that. There are an infinite number of beans out there - alien 'beans' if you will. Civilisations yet to be acquainted with the notion of overpriced Porsche coffee cups, bathmats, towels, tie-pins, clocks, toasters, sunglasses and caps. By the time the rest of us are able to leave the planet, he'll have the galaxy sewn up. Bewildered aliens will be chundering through space in a variety of super-high-profit-margin devices with RMS issues, and will have to acquaint themselves with notions like OPC-spread, brand management and trouser-downery.

In the meantime, back on Earth, with Wiedeking gone - maybe Porsche could get a new guy that knows the value of a Euro, but actually likes cars.


Are you a strategy consultant? brilliant idea.

loach

3,357 posts

217 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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ettore said:


Are you a strategy consultant? brilliant idea.



No - just full of brilliant ideas that I give away for free. Unfortunately, most concern finding something useful for Porsche's chairman to do on a different planet.

ballast

214 posts

215 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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loach said:
chundering


Quality

:makesmentalnotetousewordinmeetingsinfuture:

andy tims

5,583 posts

247 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Agree with much said above.

1) Win LeMans again
2) Make really stripped out, lightweight no frills versions of the GT3, Boxster (with a manual roof)& the Cayman.
3) Charge way less for parts & servicing

satans worm

2,387 posts

218 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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Put a limit to the amount of cars produced so the 2nd hand values goes up on our cars

meno-porsche

228 posts

247 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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andy tims said:

3) Charge way less for parts & servicing



Need to wake up now and smell the coffe ,

Although totally agree about going racing again, this time in F1. As for Le Mans they already have a winning car - its called an R10 - just need to change the name to 917D, 962D, GT1D -and give it a new paint job and bobs your uncle.

What they will need to do is invest in a few diesel or Hybrid (yes I know!!) cars especially if they want to keep selling in the US and to keep the Euro tree huggers happy. Mostly likely for the KN and Panamerica using the aforementioned diesel V10. Both would still be bloody quick. They should also be spending loads on new lightweight materials, next generation carbon and the like. Failing that they will just be paying themselves huge bonuses - as I would.

As for RUF - not a chance, dittto Gambella, etc.

loach

3,357 posts

217 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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meno-porsche said:

Need to wake up now and smell the coffee ,


[wiedeking] Did somevun menshunn beans? [/wiedeking]

fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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I'd like the Porsche management not to interfere with Lamborghini and Bugatti.

Competition between brands leads to better cars.