996-997 wet-sump engine reliability: enter your stats here!

996-997 wet-sump engine reliability: enter your stats here!

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steve996

1,240 posts

214 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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02 996 facelift, 20K miles when bought and it had its RMS changed a few K prior. Drove it (like it should be!) for just under 10K miles over 11 months and was absolutely faultless, barely even used a drop of oil.

Would have no qualms about buying another and plan to when the finances allow (likely to be a while given a recent deposit on a new house!). Would possibly go for a 996 GT3 or possibly a 997 though!


jonny996

2,603 posts

216 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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98 C2 64000 miles 2 owners full OPC service
owned for 18 months
not 1 bit of trouble
previous owner has rms done at 55000. I know as I have all the ecipts for all work done.
now being looked after by indy with NO warranty.

Stop worrying and enjoy.

Bumcrack

977 posts

264 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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Deutscher said:
minuet

noun 1 a slow formal dance with short steps in triple time, popular in the 17c and 18c. 2 a piece of music for this dance.
ETYMOLOGY: 17c: from French menuet, from menu small.
Well done

Still smarting from when I slagged off 993’s then?

Rather than picking holes in my rubbish English, why don’t you try and post something of interest, I suppose it’s an easy way to undermine somebody without actually putting a point of view across.

Makes a change from your monthly self indulgent 993 wank fest, I guess.




Edited by Bumcrack on Saturday 9th June 10:38

robinh20mrv

586 posts

201 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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hi all,

sorry porkers are new to me so please put up with my dumb questions!

whats a " RMS "???

cheers robin.

Ballcock

3,855 posts

218 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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'99 C2 ... Ran it for 18 months , daily driver , started with 43k miles , sold last week with 56k miles. way more reliable than my previous 320ci. Had the rms done in Feb under warranty , if I hadn't had the warranty I wouldn't have bothered my arse putting a new thingy in ... Just a couple of oil drips on the driveway now , to remind me of the best car I've ever had ... Sniff...

tonikaram

Original Poster:

324 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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[quote=Gazboyhe ran two threads simultaneously, ones for rebuilt sixes, and ones that have never been a problem, more people posted they hadn't had a problem. Unfortunately some people still had their fingers in their ears
[/quote]

An observation though: you mention that more people said they didn't have a problem, but that still leaves the odds to say 40/60. From what I have been reading for the 996, it's even less, but that doesn't mean that it's not still too high. My guess about the 996 is that about 70/80% have had no problem, and 30/20% have had a failure. In production cars language, such a percentage for engine failures (nothing less) is mindblowingly high.


Kay

2something

2,145 posts

207 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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01 996 pre-facelift
26k miles
RMS was slightly leaking once, only replaced it to get warranty
More importantly for the stats, I didn't join PH because of RMS!


fastfreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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'99 C2 3.4
Engine replaced at 10k miles under warranty, cracked bore liner.
Many more small problems before and since. Easily the most troublesome car I've owned and the worst dealer attitude I've encountered.

Pork_n_Beem

1,164 posts

224 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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I asked this question what is RMS a couple of years ago and was ignored ****.

Subsequently found out its the large diameter rubber seal at the back of the engine that keeps the oil in the sump but allows the crank to poke its nose out to drive the clutch, called Rear Main Seal.

In cars i have owned they have always weeped a bit but these must gush out almost as fast as you put the oil in.

robinh20mrv

586 posts

201 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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cheers pork and beem

Ballcock

3,855 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Pork_n_Beem said:
I asked this question what is RMS a couple of years ago and was ignored ****.

Subsequently found out its the large diameter rubber seal at the back of the engine that keeps the oil in the sump but allows the crank to poke its nose out to drive the clutch, called Rear Main Seal.

In cars i have owned they have always weeped a bit but these must gush out almost as fast as you put the oil in.
Nope ... The most oil I've ever seen (courtesy of Wetpipe!!) coming from an RMS was a few drops a day ...An RMS leak has never been known to kill an engine , personally , I feel that Jap cars and their insanely dry seals have ruined peoples opinions on oil leaks ... Forchrissakes it's just an iddie biddie few drops of oil that folk keep bangin on about...


Rabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbit

And for the record , 964's got em , 993's got em , GT3's got em , Turbos got em , and they (all to a lesser extent it's true) suffer from weepy seal syndrome.




Wetwipe

3,019 posts

212 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Ballcock said:
Pork_n_Beem said:
I asked this question what is RMS a couple of years ago and was ignored ****.

Subsequently found out its the large diameter rubber seal at the back of the engine that keeps the oil in the sump but allows the crank to poke its nose out to drive the clutch, called Rear Main Seal.

In cars i have owned they have always weeped a bit but these must gush out almost as fast as you put the oil in.
Nope ... The most oil I've ever seen (courtesy of Wetpipe!!) coming from an RMS was a few drops a day ...An RMS leak has never been known to kill an engine , personally , I feel that Jap cars and their insanely dry seals have ruined peoples opinions on oil leaks ... Forchrissakes it's just an iddie biddie few drops of oil that folk keep bangin on about...


Rabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbit

And for the record , 964's got em , 993's got em , GT3's got em , Turbos got em , and they (all to a lesser extent it's true) suffer from weepy seal syndrome.



hear hear

just dont tell ric that this 993 may, just one day start leaking oil

The Griffalo

72,857 posts

238 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Ballcock said:
Pork_n_Beem said:
I asked this question what is RMS a couple of years ago and was ignored ****.

Subsequently found out its the large diameter rubber seal at the back of the engine that keeps the oil in the sump but allows the crank to poke its nose out to drive the clutch, called Rear Main Seal.

In cars i have owned they have always weeped a bit but these must gush out almost as fast as you put the oil in.
Nope ... The most oil I've ever seen (courtesy of Wetpipe!!) coming from an RMS was a few drops a day ...An RMS leak has never been known to kill an engine , personally , I feel that Jap cars and their insanely dry seals have ruined peoples opinions on oil leaks ... Forchrissakes it's just an iddie biddie few drops of oil that folk keep bangin on about...


Rabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbitrabbit

And for the record , 964's got em , 993's got em , GT3's got em , Turbos got em , and they (all to a lesser extent it's true) suffer from weepy seal syndrome.



Japanese cars, pah. My old Nissan Primula had a leaky SMS (well the daft sods turned the engine sideways) for well over two years.

Ballcock

3,855 posts

218 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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The Griffalo said:
Japanese cars, pah. My old Nissan Primula had a leaky SMS (well the daft sods turned the engine sideways) for well over two years.
hehe

.. And did you give a sh1t?? .. I'm guessing no , as Gruffalos are real men.

I honestly think this leaky seal worry syndrome is going to die a death within a short few years when the first of the 996's can be bought for £15k and are being driven by folk who what to get in the car rather than lie under it polishing bits.


If you want to stop worrying about your RMS , just park your car on a gravel drive ..




Now back to the thread ... It really would be very lovely if everyone logging on with a 996 posted about their engine's reliability .


The only downside to this type of thread is that folk log on to PH in the first place for advise , if their engine gives out ... There's loads of 996 owners out there who are so bored with their cars reliability , they couldn't be bothered their arses posting about it.

XJSJohn

15,959 posts

218 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Ballcock said:
If you want to stop worrying about your RMS , just park your car on a gravel drive ..


ahh the Jaguar school of engine oil leak management hehe ....

know it well paperbag

hussar10a

449 posts

213 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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2004 C4S Tip 25300 miles

Intermediate shaft failure at 25200 miles.

Brand new engine replaced FOC.

Other than that no other problems in the 15 months I've had it.

Brilliant OPC support.

whoami

13,151 posts

239 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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hussar10a said:
2004 C4S Tip 25300 miles

Intermediate shaft failure at 25200 miles.

Brand new engine replaced FOC.

Other than that no other problems in the 15 months I've had it.

Brilliant OPC support.
So other than ther new engine, it's been perfect then?

Dr S

4,995 posts

225 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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robinh20mrv said:
hi all,

sorry porkers are new to me so please put up with my dumb questions!

whats a " RMS "???

cheers robin.
an expensive feature on quite a number of 996's. Buy one and you'll find out...wink

Ballcock

3,855 posts

218 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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hussar10a said:
2004 C4S Tip 25300 miles

Intermediate shaft failure at 25200 miles.

Brand new engine replaced FOC.

Other than that no other problems in the 15 months I've had it.

Brilliant OPC support.
You've only done 100 miles since you got it back!!!??


'Man ought to be taken out back and shot with a ball of his own dung'hehe

Dreammeister

115 posts

203 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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hussar10a said:
2004 C4S Tip 25300 miles

Intermediate shaft failure at 25200 miles.

Brand new engine replaced FOC.

Other than that no other problems in the 15 months I've had it.

Brilliant OPC support.
Great! Hardly any problems at all..

I should think you would get brilliant OPC support since the engine has blown up on a 3 year old car.

For the record 2003 C4S manual, 25k, 3 RMS failures.