cant afford a 964 rs

[964RS]

CAB said:

if you wanted to recreate you would prob do better starting with one that somebody has already spent all the money trying to do exactly what you want to do ... you wouldnt be the first to try this..

CAB

Exactly!

Sorry for the double post...i got a "flooding warning" on the first one....thought we were all going down!

[964RS]

G T 3 said:

Echo, I think
Did you get your car fixed 964RS

Edited by G T 3 on Thursday 6th September 21:52

OH YES!

Wait for next week for a nice selection of vids and photo's!

Unless you are at Ragley of course...

[tony.t]

The problem with modifiying a 964 is that you're highly unlikely to see any of the money spent doing so back.

As far as the plan you suggest I'd say you'll get 95%+ of the 964RS experience. Uprate the coilovers, LWF and a some lightweight seats/interior and it'll feel like an RS.

[Pearcy]

I'm in a similar position! - I would love a 964RS, but not sure budget can strech - I 'could' spend up to £40k, but trying to keep it under £30k.

Have test driven an Exige S, which was good & am considering one for a couple of years before tracking down my 'ideal' 911 (either clubsport or 964RS), but how much further will values rise by then?!

I do know of a LHD 964RS in Red that will be available shortly for £35k & only has 17k miles, but...

It has been used by an instructor as a track car since new, has a full cage etc. & has had damage to the front & back (fully repaired/not registered), although 1 of the wheels is not magnesium (due to having been replaced). Also, it has been well maintained by the owners own race preperation people, but there is no actual history with the car.

So 17k miles, 2 owners from new, 17k miles, but with no history & 1 of the wheels is not original. - Worth £35k? hmm...

[jon.b]

Pearcy said:

I'm in a similar position! - I would love a 964RS, but not sure budget can strech - I 'could' spend up to £40k, but trying to keep it under £30k.

Have test driven an Exige S, which was good & am considering one for a couple of years before tracking down my 'ideal' 911 (either clubsport or 964RS), but how much further will values rise by then?!

I do know of a LHD 964RS in Red that will be available shortly for £35k & only has 17k miles, but...

It has been used by an instructor as a track car since new, has a full cage etc. & has had damage to the front & back (fully repaired/not registered), although 1 of the wheels is not magnesium (due to having been replaced). Also, it has been well maintained by the owners own race preperation people, but there is no actual history with the car.

So 17k miles, 2 owners from new, 17k miles, but with no history & 1 of the wheels is not original. - Worth £35k? hmm...

I looked at a very similar sounding car early on this yr. A dealer in Sussex was selling it for £22k IIRC. I think it had been imported from Hong Kong. See link below and scroll down through the cars.
http://www.911classic.co.uk/cars_for_sale.htm
Shows how the market has moved in a short space of time.

[PolarExpress]

The 964RS experience is great I'm sure, but it has a [too high,imho] price.

A fully track-prepped 964C2 could probably give 99% (or maybe even 101%?) of the on-track experience as an RS, but it's just not the psychological/ownership experience. How much you want to pay for the psyche is up to you, but if you did pay up - you probably won't enjoy the on-track experience quite as much being forever fearful of the armco...

From your original post, it sounds like you're more keen on the '964 on-track experience' than the '964RS ownership experience', although i could be wrong...

Edited by PolarExpress on Thursday 6th September 23:20

[Pearcy]

Jon B - Yes, that looks like the one. Actually, it's funny - I visited them last week to view/drive the 964RS recreation they have. Nice car, drove well apart from a 'clonk' into 3rd gear (not a crunch, just a particular notchiness with 3rd that didn't feel quite right) & the clutch was VERY heavy, which made me doubt it was a hydraulic clutch like it should be with the G50 box.

[Pearcy]

Maritime Blue though! <drools>

[jon.b]

Yeah, Maritime is a great colour. Seems to attract a bit of a premium though. Black is the way to go, but I would say that!
Jon

[paul0843]

saw that car..but based on 3.0sc...not sure thats the way to go

[rs48635]

What about a Mk1 GT3 instead of the genuine 964 RS? Can get them below 40k (JUST)

[melv]

Any 'replica' will never have the soul of the RS -not that I'm biased....

As usual PE, you are talking absolute twaddle...... -you just gotta DRIVE one.

IMNVHO, if I was going the 'budget' conversion/trackday car route I'd go for a 3.0 or 3.2, plenty of half-decent ex racers around for about £15K....and with that light body and 200+bhp you will have just as much fun.....

[sambaman]

here....here......

Any 'replica' will never have the soul of the RS -not that I'm biased....

As usual PE, you are talking absolute twaddle...... -you just gotta DRIVE one

[anonymous-user]

The RS is a magic car, all thought of its value dissapears when you're flat out on a curving country road; getting it right in the RS IS driving heaven. If you can't quite afford an RS it doesn't make any sense to buy a depreciating modern car in the mean time until you can... likewise it makes no financial sense to buy a 20k car mod it for 15 and still have a 22k modded car, although im sure you will get 99% of the way there. If it were me i'd buy a well worn/noSH RS as described and slowly bring up to standard, that way money spent will be reflected in price. or buy a mk1 gt3

[LeoSayer]

paul0843 said:

love the sound of the 964rs but cant justify spending £45-50k.assuming
i bought a good 964 coupe for about £15k and wanted to spend about £10-12k on mods,whats the best way to spend the money on?

If I was doing that (and I have considered it)...
Suspension rebuild £3k
Seats and Cage £2k
Remove soundproofing and recarpet £500??
Replace roof with non-sunroof £2k??
Wheels and track biased tyres £2k
Brake upgrade £2k (not sure if that would be necessary with the weight removal)

[964RS]

PolarExpress said:

The 964RS experience is great I'm sure, but it has a [too high,imho] price.

A fully track-prepped 964C2 could probably give 99% (or maybe even 101%?) of the on-track experience as an RS, but it's just not the psychological/ownership experience. How much you want to pay for the psyche is up to you, but if you did pay up - you probably won't enjoy the on-track experience quite as much being forever fearful of the armco...

From your original post, it sounds like you're more keen on the '964 on-track experience' than the '964RS ownership experience', although i could be wrong...

Edited by PolarExpress on Thursday 6th September 23:20

Not often i think you've got it wrong Ade....but you probably have this time.

The RS is whole leaps away from the C2 (even modified) on track...and the clubsport is slightly further again.

I am actually missing the thought of not being able to drive my GT3 on track now though....more than I thought I would.

[uktrailmonster]

As much as I like the 964RS, they're certainly not worth the money they're fetching at the moment. Recreating one from a standard C2 is not that difficult (it's basically a big weight saving exercise) and if you intend to use it on the road the RS suspension is way too stiff anyway. So I think it's an over-rated car at the moment (in terms of value). When they were £20-25K only a few years ago it was a different story.

As for paying £20K for a converted '79 SC, what's that all about? The only relevant and cost effective starting point for a recreation RS is a standard 964 C2.

[LeoSayer]

964RS said:

The RS is whole leaps away from the C2 (even modified) on track...and the clubsport is slightly further again.

Are you saying it's not possible to turn a C2 into something as good or better on track than an RS?

[rubystone]

paul0843 said:

i know that shell wont be as stiff,but maybe rollcage will go someway to impoving things.mine would be maritime blue...

You're assuming that all RS bodyshells were seamwelded of course....

[rubystone]

9hellheaven said:

Catch 22 x catch 22 I reckon..It seems a lot (964rs) for a car that has minor engine tunning against a standard 964.

What's your definiton of "minor tuning"?