Chris Harris's 911 for sale

Chris Harris's 911 for sale

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911teo

229 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
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The engine details are:

- 993 case
- 3.9 CMW P&C
- Titanium valvetrain
- Titanium retainers and springs
- Solid rockers (tappers) conversion
- 45mm ported heads
- RS size valves
- Jenvey ITBs
- DC 62 cams
- Motec M600 ECU

TJ930

342 posts

194 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
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'king 'ell!

wink

I've got so many questions - like, "10k rpm rev counter - what's your beasty's rev limit?"

But I guess the main question is, "Do you still get lesser cars (like Subarus) trying it on?"

Couldn't believe it the other week - a yoof in one of those bloody 230bhp Vauxhalls was trying to 'spoil for a fight.'
rolleyes

911teo

229 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
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Red line is set at 7,600rpm right now.

The components are good for 8,400-8,600 but the cams chosen (I wanted to be able to drive the car on the street) are useless past 7,700rpm.


LanCat

423 posts

207 months

Saturday 23rd August 2008
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I think Harris' car is very nice indeed but 911teo your's just makes me go all wibbly. bowbowbow

briSk

14,291 posts

225 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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DDg said:
Just curious, but does anyone know what happened to Chris Harris's car in the end? Did it sell? End up in Germany? New owner enthusiastically posting on the net? Enjoyed following its build and always thought it was such a nice car.
i'd be interested to know this too.

i like that car because as much as anything it showed how 'reasonable' a bespoke car can be. okay okay so it'd be much slower but it cost much the same as a well optioned gt3rs - a 'mass produced' car..

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Someone pointed out that for the money Harris spent, you could have bought the real thing. That assumes that everyone wants to. I wouldn’t, unless as a collector’s item.
An unmodified pre-IB 911 looks the part but is too slow and, like any old classic, needs TLC; or, if an RS, is beyond the pocket of even a man who could blow 100k on a rep. A modern 911? Faster sure, but, apart from a Mezger-engined GT3, most will have limited interest to someone who likes retro style, air-cooled build quality and that rude air-cooled bark. I heard Harris’ car started up and it’s nicely anti-social in a way that most new 911s just aren’t. Reps, with Autofarm, PS, Singer etc, all depends on who does it and exact bits they use. To start from the bare metal and essentially have the entire car re-hand built by experts to your spec is a very costly business – if you do it right. There are a few experienced engine builders who know air cooled flat 6s, but far more who don't; and the good ones cost. EG, you could spend thousands on just buying a gravel suspension. Tuthills work with exe-tc dampers
http://www.exe-tc.co.uk/gravel/technical and they are seriously good; but cheap they’re not. Eg, you’d spend 4 figures on a 10krpm reconditioned 911 tacho, if you could find one. Of course, if you want, you can buy a tired old nail and stick on some fibreglass bumpers; but to judge one of those cosmetic “reps” as being comparable to a car like Harris’ re-engineered hot rod misses the point by a mile. And early 911s suit lurid paint jobs (yellow, various oranges, greens) in ways that the modern ones don’t. The whole point of those early 70s colours is that they ps off conservative modern tastes.

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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tommy1973s said:
Someone pointed out that for the money Harris spent, you could have bought the real thing. That assumes that everyone wants to. I wouldn’t, unless as a collector’s item.
An unmodified pre-IB 911 looks the part but is too slow and, like any old classic, needs TLC; or, if an RS, is beyond the pocket of even a man who could blow 100k on a rep. A modern 911? Faster sure, but, apart from a Mezger-engined GT3, most will have limited interest to someone who likes retro style, air-cooled build quality and that rude air-cooled bark. I heard Harris’ car started up and it’s nicely anti-social in a way that most new 911s just aren’t. Reps, with Autofarm, PS, Singer etc, all depends on who does it and exact bits they use. To start from the bare metal and essentially have the entire car re-hand built by experts to your spec is a very costly business – if you do it right. There are a few experienced engine builders who know air cooled flat 6s, but far more who don't; and the good ones cost. EG, you could spend thousands on just buying a gravel suspension. Tuthills work with exe-tc dampers
http://www.exe-tc.co.uk/gravel/technical and they are seriously good; but cheap they’re not. Eg, you’d spend 4 figures on a 10krpm reconditioned 911 tacho, if you could find one. Of course, if you want, you can buy a tired old nail and stick on some fibreglass bumpers; but to judge one of those cosmetic “reps” as being comparable to a car like Harris’ re-engineered hot rod misses the point by a mile. And early 911s suit lurid paint jobs (yellow, various oranges, greens) in ways that the modern ones don’t. The whole point of those early 70s colours is that they ps off conservative modern tastes.
Holy thread resurrection Batman ! !


The 300kph speedo I bought for my '73 RSR build project cost £250. The 10K tacho cost the same. Even allowing for the fact that both were supplied at discounted mates rates, I think four figures might be a tad optimistic.


alexpa

644 posts

171 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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uktrailmonster said:
Burnham said:
uktrailmonster said:
A used one of these would be lucky to make £20K.
I think thats a little harsh.

..but I agree absolutley on the orignal cost 'new' from PS...it is a huge amount of money, but I suppose it reflects the amount of work thats gone into them. Its difficult to pitch - a classic '70's look with Tip and carrera4 underpinnings is going to have a limted audience...but as a 'classic' daily driver it must be a fun prospect.

Me...I'd take a 2.7 RS rep, or better still, Chris Harris' green machine....hmmm....I wonder if he'll do a swap for my 997S.
Yes a bit harsh I admit. But a few years down the line it would be a tough job to shift one for much more than that. £20K buys you a very nice original C3.2, £40K buys you an early Carrera, £50K buys you an original well sorted early 2.4S. So lots of tough opposition for any PS retro car out there.

I know the price reflects the build cost, but we all know cars like this are worth a lot less than they cost to build after a couple of years. That's a fact of life.

And here we are in 2014 and they're all going skyward

ChrisW.

6,210 posts

254 months

Saturday 12th April 2014
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A shame he couldn't put a Harris sticker on it ... or a Tuthill ?

Look at what Singer is asking ??

I reckon that was one lovely car !!


964RS.

237 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Did I hear he has bought the car back? Good move I say.

mollytherocker

14,365 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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964RS. said:
Did I hear he has bought the car back? Good move I say.
Good move? Isn't there a huge bubble about to explode!! Or something... biggrin

wtdoom

3,742 posts

207 months

Friday 4th September 2015
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Tuthills have bought back the Harris car

drakart

1,735 posts

209 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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I had the pleasure of sharing Goodwood with Mr Harris and Kermit yesterday. driving

9e 28

9,410 posts

200 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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^ Amazeballs!

squirejo

794 posts

242 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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They also have this http://www.tuthillporsche.com/blog/slate-grey-cust... back in the fold.