Cayman vs boxster
Discussion
Orangecurry said:
Photogirl said:
I think some photos taken at the car park at the top of Chantry Lane are in order.
Orangecurry - I was going to do that!! But on my only day off, it was really muddy and I thought I might get stuck. I had visions of getting the car nicely backlit as the sun went down .... I might try it next week if the weather dries up.4sure - thank you for the nice comment.
Edited by Photogirl on Tuesday 9th December 16:14
Hello all,
Ive Driven a 2.7 987 Boxster, a 3.2S and the latter 3.4S as well as both Caymans
And I say that the 987 3.4S is the best all round car of them all. The S engine is very sweet indeed, and sounds awesome with the roof down. Add to that you would save a few bob.
I didnt really notice the difference in handling from Cayman to Boxster, and I Would argue that on the UK roads, the difference is negligable
Ive Driven a 2.7 987 Boxster, a 3.2S and the latter 3.4S as well as both Caymans
And I say that the 987 3.4S is the best all round car of them all. The S engine is very sweet indeed, and sounds awesome with the roof down. Add to that you would save a few bob.
I didnt really notice the difference in handling from Cayman to Boxster, and I Would argue that on the UK roads, the difference is negligable
jackal said:
i drove a boxster recently.. it was all silky and light and sort of sanitised..
all the controls made it feel like any old VAG car tbh
sure, engine sounded quite nice (bugger all torque though) and body control/ride was exemplary but it was all a bit mainstream and non-special. Could just as well have been in a seat leon with a slightly more interesting engine note imo. I'd say go for the Cayman.
Based on your comments about the Boxster, that is strange advice as they are both pretty much identical cars. all the controls made it feel like any old VAG car tbh
sure, engine sounded quite nice (bugger all torque though) and body control/ride was exemplary but it was all a bit mainstream and non-special. Could just as well have been in a seat leon with a slightly more interesting engine note imo. I'd say go for the Cayman.
Edited by Frank987 on Friday 12th December 07:27
heebeegeetee and Orangecurry - what are you like! Pictures of bottoms! Although I must say, my car does have the most wonderful bum:
Orangecurry, you'll know where the top picture was taken and maybe even the bottom one (it's within a mile of the village centre). I liked your picture on Chantry, that must have been the year before last, I can't remember if we had snow last winter.
By the way, this is the top section the racing Boxsters use. It does look exactly like a Cayman from the back, I think the side view is slightly different which gives it a lovely unique look. It's very pretty and I love it. For me, the extra visibility is brilliant.
These parts are only available from South Africa and they are quite expensive (each is made to order and takes around 12 weeks). My bill came to £3,100 (inclusive of VAT, Duty, and air freight). Sure, I could have bought a Cayman instead, but I really like having the option of a true coupe in the winter and a normal Boxster when I feel like it.
Orangecurry, you'll know where the top picture was taken and maybe even the bottom one (it's within a mile of the village centre). I liked your picture on Chantry, that must have been the year before last, I can't remember if we had snow last winter.
By the way, this is the top section the racing Boxsters use. It does look exactly like a Cayman from the back, I think the side view is slightly different which gives it a lovely unique look. It's very pretty and I love it. For me, the extra visibility is brilliant.
These parts are only available from South Africa and they are quite expensive (each is made to order and takes around 12 weeks). My bill came to £3,100 (inclusive of VAT, Duty, and air freight). Sure, I could have bought a Cayman instead, but I really like having the option of a true coupe in the winter and a normal Boxster when I feel like it.
Edited by Photogirl on Friday 12th December 13:56
Edited by Photogirl on Friday 12th December 13:58
I’ve owned both and preferred the Cayman S over the Boxster
I notice a lot the Boxster owners are saying the same thing, which is something along the lines of, that you only notice the difference between the two cars if your on a track or some sort of racing driver. This isn’t true. It’s apparent within the first few miles when driving normally and glaring obvious when you up the commitment levels, get some heat into to the tyres of the Cayman and the feel and grip takes on another dimension
The Cayman has better steering and is more communicative generally, it feels more nimble and responsive, it just feels more hardcore than the Boxster.
If you want the best driving experience pick the Cayman, if you want open top motoring, the Boxster is the one to go for.
Both great cars, only you can decide which is the more important to you; open top motoring or the best handling car Porsche has produced to date.
I notice a lot the Boxster owners are saying the same thing, which is something along the lines of, that you only notice the difference between the two cars if your on a track or some sort of racing driver. This isn’t true. It’s apparent within the first few miles when driving normally and glaring obvious when you up the commitment levels, get some heat into to the tyres of the Cayman and the feel and grip takes on another dimension
The Cayman has better steering and is more communicative generally, it feels more nimble and responsive, it just feels more hardcore than the Boxster.
If you want the best driving experience pick the Cayman, if you want open top motoring, the Boxster is the one to go for.
Both great cars, only you can decide which is the more important to you; open top motoring or the best handling car Porsche has produced to date.
Holy thread revival Batman. Here's another Zeintec roof in Seal, looks very very good indeed I reckon. If the roof is in the region of 3k, I think its an excellent option for a Boxster.
http://www.paulfrench.co.uk/page42.htm
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http://www.paulfrench.co.uk/page42.htm
Edited by hornetrider on Thursday 1st January 12:02
Ooh, I do love Seal Grey. I thought I knew the 3 other Zeintec owners, but I don't know this one, thank you for posting it. In terms of price, it will work out more than £3K - the final figure depends on delivery costs, VAT, duties and clearance fees, and fitting (a day in the workshop to get it right - not the 3 hours they will tell you). It is pricey, when viewed like that, but the beauty of it made the whole (arduous) project worthwhile.
Another thing to consider is storage space, when you want a soft-top back, the Zeintop comes off as one big unit (roof and hatch stay together to keep your original and painstaking adjustments) so you'll need a big shed/very large garage.
Another thing to consider is storage space, when you want a soft-top back, the Zeintop comes off as one big unit (roof and hatch stay together to keep your original and painstaking adjustments) so you'll need a big shed/very large garage.
jackwood said:
Would the benefit of the increase in structural integrity be in the ability to more closely control damping be when you are already at the optimum cornering attitude and then throw in a sharp ridge or dip?
Isn’t that more the point and benefit of increased structural and torsional rigidity?
I am no chassis engineer but I assumed that was exactly the point, probably makes little to no difference on a track but maybe results in the same or better ride quality even when using stiffer suspension. Since the body shell is steel surely the problem is that in a car with lower torsional stiffness you reach a point where increasing the spring rate and shocks wrecks the ride quality and ultimately makes the car actually slower because the body shell becomes the spring rather then the springs.Isn’t that more the point and benefit of increased structural and torsional rigidity?
Anyways I have seen a Cayman S going round clay pigeon carting track a couple of years back and it looked amazingly agile, it made a fettled GT2 look lumbering and IMHO handled more impressively then several kit cars and race/rally tuned cars there that day.
Photogirl said:
Ooh, I do love Seal Grey. I thought I knew the 3 other Zeintec owners, but I don't know this one, thank you for posting it. In terms of price, it will work out more than £3K - the final figure depends on delivery costs, VAT, duties and clearance fees, and fitting (a day in the workshop to get it right - not the 3 hours they will tell you). It is pricey, when viewed like that, but the beauty of it made the whole (arduous) project worthwhile.
Another thing to consider is storage space, when you want a soft-top back, the Zeintop comes off as one big unit (roof and hatch stay together to keep your original and painstaking adjustments) so you'll need a big shed/very large garage.
Are these different to the Porsche hard top option Another thing to consider is storage space, when you want a soft-top back, the Zeintop comes off as one big unit (roof and hatch stay together to keep your original and painstaking adjustments) so you'll need a big shed/very large garage.
@ £1,466
or this type: clicky?
Much made of the extra rigidity of the Cayman, but having owned both a Cayman 2.7 and a Boxster 2.7 I can add my two-penneth worth here..........
The Cayman was undoubtedly stiffer and perhaps better balanced than the Boxster, but my experience was that this added nothing to the driving experience, as the Boxster offered a more involved drive IMO, giving more feedback and basically more fun.
I dare say that the Cayman S would be an entirely different matter, but I found the standard 2.7 Cayman just too compliant and well-mannered to put a smile on my face as an every-day drive, almost as though it was over-engineered, or simply under-powered for a chassis that good. Whereas, my Bosxter is always great fun to chuck around and seems to give better feedback.
Therefore, if you need better storage and don't desire a rag-top, or are thinking of the odd track day, go for a Cayman. (Looks more stylish too perhaps?) Otherwise, save several quid and get more fun for your bucks in a Boxster.
The Cayman was undoubtedly stiffer and perhaps better balanced than the Boxster, but my experience was that this added nothing to the driving experience, as the Boxster offered a more involved drive IMO, giving more feedback and basically more fun.
I dare say that the Cayman S would be an entirely different matter, but I found the standard 2.7 Cayman just too compliant and well-mannered to put a smile on my face as an every-day drive, almost as though it was over-engineered, or simply under-powered for a chassis that good. Whereas, my Bosxter is always great fun to chuck around and seems to give better feedback.
Therefore, if you need better storage and don't desire a rag-top, or are thinking of the odd track day, go for a Cayman. (Looks more stylish too perhaps?) Otherwise, save several quid and get more fun for your bucks in a Boxster.
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