price pattern: 996 gt3 to follow 993rs and 964rs

[christer]

I think they will command strong money relatively speaking - but I as an owner am not expecting any increase in prices for the foreseeable future. It all depends on whether the 996GT3 is different enough to the 997 variants to distinguish themselves. The fact that older standard models command strong money will support prices as well. If a standard 993 is £25K for a minter, then it is very unlikely that the 996 GT3 equivalents will fall below (or near) this imho.

Its an interesting subject (to some) but pure speculation of course - and I don't think it enters most people's minds. As I said earlier, I try to buy cars that I really want with low depreciation if possible and any more is a bonus - but I would also buy cars that I really want with an unknown depreciation curve - its not the be all and end all factor. I rarely if ever buy new though

Edited by christer on Monday 28th September 10:58

[Steve Rance]

The 996RS will be strong because only 500 were made worldwide making it a very rare car so like i've said before the beards will end up owning what have not been written off by then. As for the Mk1 and Mk2, I think that they will gradually creep up because the 996RS will. I will soon have a 993 Clubsport in my stable, I'll let you know just how far apart in terms of driving thrills they actually are.

[AL001]

Diesel130 said:

erics said:

being a former 964rs owner and looking closely at 996 gt3s.
I am wondering.

I am confused - I thought you already had a gt3?

erics said:

My view is that 996 gt3s are a 'buy' here.

Haven't you just put your's up for sale, the day of this posting??

P.S. Nothing duller, than posts talking up/talking down prices.

[Adam B]

Diesel130 said:

erics said:

being a former 964rs owner and looking closely at 996 gt3s.
I am wondering.

I am confused - I thought you already had a gt3?

erics said:

My view is that 996 gt3s are a 'buy' here.

Haven't you just put your's up for sale, the day of this posting??

so just trying to talk up his for-sale car then!!

[kayc]

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

[DanH]

Steve Rance said:

The 996RS will be strong because only 500 were made worldwide making it a very rare car so like i've said before the beards will end up owning what have not been written off by then. As for the Mk1 and Mk2, I think that they will gradually creep up because the 996RS will. I will soon have a 993 Clubsport in my stable, I'll let you know just how far apart in terms of driving thrills they actually are.

As per that other thread, according to 'Porsche Engineering for Excellence' by Tony Dron they only made 200 not the 500 you mention.

Either way its a rare car.

[TGJR]

kayc said:

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

Personally I like the look of the 964 and facelift 996 best. Find the 993 and 997 front end/headlights a bit weak in design.

[shamrock]

kayc said:

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

/\/\/\
What he said. Same thing happens with the M3.

[Dan7357]

I think the 996 RS will be top of the tree, but this will take a while with a good one now costing £65k+.

The RHD MK1's should be there within 5 years, with only 106 coming to the UK, say 20-25 written off ect.. leaving 80 odd vehicles.

The MK2's may take a little longer..

What of Mods ?? Manthey ect...

You can't take away the 993 RS is one of the best looking 911's ever(maybe the 993 Turbo 'S' does it for me), but parting with £100k would be hard for me.

996RS
MK1 GT3
MK2 GT3

Just my thoughts...

Oh and it was the MK1 GT3 that came 3rd in Evo -

[Henry-F]

kayc said:

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

Where as the 964 from which the recently doubled in price 964RS evolved is such a popular car.............



Trust me on this one. The 996 GT3 will in time also become a very desirable car - not that it isn`t already! Certainly it`ll go up in value. The huge motorsport presence of the 996 in all it`s incarnations ensures it`s place as an "industry standard" racing car will continue for a good many years up until it is old enough to qualify for historic meetings, prices go through the roof as buyers want a competitive entry for the big name events and the road going versions tag along for the ride.

Henry

[Steve Rance]

kayc said:

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

Depends if you want to drive it or look at it i suppose.

[kayc]

Steve Rance said:

kayc said:

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

Depends if you want to drive it or look at it i suppose.

Both to be honest..i wouldnt buy an ugly car just because it was quick(Id buy an R1 if speed was the only factor and save a few quid)and i wouldnt buy a 'pretty' car if it drove like st.

[jackal]

I personally think 96 GT3's will just remain solid, a bit like decent 993's. certainly things don't look great for them in the market at the moment.

But I think the 96 RS is a totally different kettle of fish and the actual RS badge carries a lot of weight... that and the tiny build numbers (only aroudn 116 in the uk, maybe 200-300 worldwide). The press also have the car down on the same level as the 2.7 rs and the 964rs in terms of the actual drive. My feeling is that it will certainly go down as an iconic legend given enough time. They could easily reach 80k+ or so once the 96 is a very distant memory and we are another couple of 911 generations on in 5-10 years from now.

Edited by jackal on Monday 28th September 14:49

[Ken Sington]

I was tempted 3 or 4 years ago to chop in my 993 for a blue and white 996 GT3RS which from memory was on for about £65k. I backed off because the dealer who had it was a bit too non-committal about the history for my liking. Looking at the classifieds today, there are a couple of the blue and white ones available for similar money so that is a pretty good indication of holding value. Can't say the same for the 996 GT3 though.

[fergus]

jackal said:

.... the actual RS badge carries a lot of weight...

... hardly any actually Rich, as it's a sticker. Prob about 5 grams

[robmug]

shamrock said:

kayc said:

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

/\/\/\
What he said. Same thing happens with the M3.

I disagree...they used to say the same about the 964 (you either want a classic 911 or a 993) and saw the 964 as the ugly duckling...now look at 964 RS prices...

[sone]

kayc said:

Steve Rance said:

kayc said:

I dont see any chance of the 996gt3 becoming a classic as the whole 996 range will always go down as the 'ugly-duckling' 911 model where Porsche sort of got it wrong..you'll either want an air-cooled classic or a 997 surely?

Depends if you want to drive it or look at it i suppose.

Both to be honest..i wouldn't buy an ugly car just because it was quick(Id buy an R1 if speed was the only factor and save a few quid)and i wouldnt buy a 'pretty' car if it drove like st.

Ok I'm not a Porsche purist but I don't see that the 996 is that different from the 997 from the looks point of view but as I say I'm not a purist.
With regard the 996 GT3 I own one and I've got to say it's an awesome bit of kit. I previously owned an air cooled Porsche and hated it but as I said what do I know. I will say however that the GT3 engine is a masterpiece and it does make me smile everytime it's spins upto it limits.
I've yet to own a car whether it be Porsche, Lotus (especially Lotus) Tvr or whatever where the old stalwarts don't insist that the earlier models where more desirable. Firstly for me production numbers are irrelevant if a cars crap I don't want it if they made 1 dozen of ten thousand, rare doesn't necessarily mean good. I'm sure some of these people are right and some cars are better however I know from experience many of these so called icon's are a massive disappointment when you actually get around to driving them. You have to separate knowledge and experience from envy and gossip when it comes to cars.
That said if your in the market for a great weekend toy 996 GT3 mk1 or mk2 are fantastic fun.

[guyvert1]

Well there's a lot of cashing in on the 964RS side, right now there's 3 in a row on the 1st page in classified and around 8 in total, quite a few for such a rare beasty!

[TGJR]

Only time will tell (but I think GT3's in all guises will fair well in the market place).

For now, if you are lucky enough to have one just enjoy it. I took mine on the back roads to watch the PCGB championship at Croft yesterday and it was fantastic. Less than an hour after getting home I set out for another 2o minute run just on the way to putting it back in the garage

[mr sagman]

TGJR said:

Only time will tell (but I think GT3's in all guises will fair well in the market place).

For now, if you are lucky enough to have one just enjoy it. I took mine on the back roads to watch the PCGB championship at Croft yesterday and it was fantastic. Less than an hour after getting home I set out for another 2o minute run just on the way to putting it back in the garage

Hi thomas, hope your enjoying your new beast! How does it compare to your sagaris! A GT2 or a GT3 would probably be the only car that may prise me away from my sag in the future.

All the best
Ian.