Evo Mag: Parr Cayman Turbo
Discussion
Hi there, I went to the Sunday Service today and drove there in my dads Cayman S, Ive always been impressed with the way it drove but while on the drive down I was slowly becoming more and more won over by it. I've never been a big fan of the styling or its image, but after a great drive today I was left thinking that it could be happier with a bit more power, and that my reservations regarding its looks etc could be swayed by making it look a bit more serious.
Which leads me to the review of Parr Cayman Turbo in this monthes EVO (480-500 bhp!). I have been hankering over getting another TVR recently but after reading the mag the idea cropped up on the drive home that instead of that, I could pay the costs of this convertion on my dads Cayman in return for half ownership, half running costs etc. Even with both of us using it I doubt it would only cover 7-8k a year, he gets his car tuned to 500bhp for nothing, I get a 500bhp Porsche for around £17k plus with the running costs split 50/50. Everyones a winner and it seems like a good idea at the moment...
In a few months this could turn into a 'build dairy' but at the moment its just ideas, inspiration and advice that would be really helpful to us. The route we would take is to try and create a Cayman GT2 (not that Porsche would ever make one) but let say if they did.
If anyone has any experience of a Turbo'd Cayman, Parr Ltd, or has seen any nice pictures / videos etc of how an official Cayman GT2 could look please post them up.
Thanks in advance.
Which leads me to the review of Parr Cayman Turbo in this monthes EVO (480-500 bhp!). I have been hankering over getting another TVR recently but after reading the mag the idea cropped up on the drive home that instead of that, I could pay the costs of this convertion on my dads Cayman in return for half ownership, half running costs etc. Even with both of us using it I doubt it would only cover 7-8k a year, he gets his car tuned to 500bhp for nothing, I get a 500bhp Porsche for around £17k plus with the running costs split 50/50. Everyones a winner and it seems like a good idea at the moment...
In a few months this could turn into a 'build dairy' but at the moment its just ideas, inspiration and advice that would be really helpful to us. The route we would take is to try and create a Cayman GT2 (not that Porsche would ever make one) but let say if they did.
If anyone has any experience of a Turbo'd Cayman, Parr Ltd, or has seen any nice pictures / videos etc of how an official Cayman GT2 could look please post them up.
Thanks in advance.
TryHarder said:
Just IMO, and its yours so you can do whatever you like, but please don't go and spoil what you have, it is what it is.... just my opinion 
A souped up Cayman is never going to be a GT2......
I see where your coming from... lets say that rather to create a Cayman GT2 (it is an iconic car that would be impossible to equal)... rather we were to take inspiration from it. A souped up Cayman is never going to be a GT2......Im not a big fan of souped up cars either, but take RUF, TechArt etc... i know its 'slightly' different but done tastefully a 'souped up' Cayman could be quite nice.
If you get on to the Planetporsche website - there are about 100 TPC Cayman Turbos (Same as what Parr have done)
Its an interesting propostion, but would cost you around 15k, you wouldnt get it back.. and I really dont know about the longevity of the engine.
Shame you didnt write something like this before - I was at Sunday service and have a 330ish BHP Cayman, a reliable increase in power, and great fun to drive - at a fraction of the cost. (have a look at my profile for details)
Sad thing is - in the U.S - the turbo kit is $10,000, a year ago - that's just over £5k, plus radiator, clutch and brakes would come in at under £10k with fitting.
Its an interesting propostion, but would cost you around 15k, you wouldnt get it back.. and I really dont know about the longevity of the engine.
Shame you didnt write something like this before - I was at Sunday service and have a 330ish BHP Cayman, a reliable increase in power, and great fun to drive - at a fraction of the cost. (have a look at my profile for details)
Sad thing is - in the U.S - the turbo kit is $10,000, a year ago - that's just over £5k, plus radiator, clutch and brakes would come in at under £10k with fitting.
Edited by 98C4S on Sunday 11th October 23:45
98c4s, thanks for the info. I'll do some reading.
It does look awful though! Only in America!
TryHarder said:
Now you see 98C4S's Cayman is beautiful, unfortunatly some of the 'creations' on planet porsche, umm, well ... arn't
Again just IMO.....
and thats tame... " if it had wings it would fly " ... oh it has...
Theres a video of this car on you tube (it looks like this one) and the driver is saying that it had 600 odd bhp but its turned down to 560ish hp. I'll have a look for the link.Again just IMO.....
and thats tame... " if it had wings it would fly " ... oh it has...Edited by TryHarder on Sunday 11th October 23:53
It does look awful though! Only in America!
TryHarder said:
Now you see 98C4S's Cayman is beautiful, unfortunatly some of the 'creations' on planet porsche, umm, well ... arn't
Again just IMO.....
and thats tame... " if it had wings it would fly " ... oh it has...
I don't think it's that bad, quite fancy it actually.Again just IMO.....
and thats tame... " if it had wings it would fly " ... oh it has...Edited by TryHarder on Sunday 11th October 23:53
Power upgrades are certainly nothing new, especially turbo upgrades that give very high output increases. What is the general downfall with such upgrades is that chasis and braking upgrades also need to be as well judged in order for the package to work properly as the extra power needs to be a) deployed and b) controlled in terms of chasis geometry, damping control and braking. Many tuners merely add 20% or so more power to a car and leave the chasis on the basis that it was ok anyway showing how little their understanding is of the dynamic between power and chasis control. Having worked with Parr as a development driver and race driver for several years I know that thier attention to detail is extremely good - we ended up with 6 different geo options on the 996RS - and have no doubt that this upgrade is a very good engineering solution in all aspects.
Not particularly being a fan of turbo carrs, I'd probably go for a modified n/a option, more like Autofarm's 'Cayman RS':
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Al
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Al
carter711 said:
TryHarder said:
Now you see 98C4S's Cayman is beautiful, unfortunatly some of the 'creations' on planet porsche, umm, well ... arn't
Again just IMO.....
and thats tame... " if it had wings it would fly " ... oh it has...
I don't think it's that bad, quite fancy it actually.Again just IMO.....
and thats tame... " if it had wings it would fly " ... oh it has...Edited by TryHarder on Sunday 11th October 23:53
Podie said:
98C4S said:
stuff
Gotta ask, but what the hell is a "De-snorked with direct air intake" ??On the passenger side vent of the car, if you look at a standard Cayman/S look through, and you will see a blanking plate which is placed to restrict the amount of air that comes in to the engine. - De-snorking it, is taking out this blanking plate and all the associated gubbins, fitting a mesh grill to stop debris, and allowing air to go directly in without all the corners/bends/restrictions that the plate and gubbins offer. Here's a pic without the plate/snork - and the direct air tube
Heres some the Engine Components (not including uprated O/A Seperator and obv exhaust
Heres a before pic:
And an after pic:
I think that adding a low pressure turbo is the way we would go rather than keeping it N/A (or supercharging).
In regards to chassis upgrades etc, I have had a brief look over a few tuners websites, and other than engine work we would be looking to upgrade the brakes (discs, pads, hoses).
Upgrade the suspension (full bilstein (sp) setup, strut braces, anti-roll bars etc etc
other bits to include will be an LSD, short shift gear sick, possible upgraded clutch, roll cage, bucket seats, 5 point harnesses, race steering wheel, new alloys in black, subtle carbon trinkets to the exterior and a possible respray or one of them 'wraps' (budget depending) in either GT3RS orange or green.
Neither myself or my dad want it to either look or drive like a barry boys wet dream, but rather try to keep true to what we feel it would look like if Porsche were to do this...
One (slightly pointless) thing I'd like is to do is make the engine look a touch nicer with a painted rocker cover, carbon fibre bits etc and to have a glass engine cover to show it off. Has anyone done this? I cant find a glass engine cover anywhere...
Thanks
L
In regards to chassis upgrades etc, I have had a brief look over a few tuners websites, and other than engine work we would be looking to upgrade the brakes (discs, pads, hoses).
Upgrade the suspension (full bilstein (sp) setup, strut braces, anti-roll bars etc etc
other bits to include will be an LSD, short shift gear sick, possible upgraded clutch, roll cage, bucket seats, 5 point harnesses, race steering wheel, new alloys in black, subtle carbon trinkets to the exterior and a possible respray or one of them 'wraps' (budget depending) in either GT3RS orange or green.
Neither myself or my dad want it to either look or drive like a barry boys wet dream, but rather try to keep true to what we feel it would look like if Porsche were to do this...
One (slightly pointless) thing I'd like is to do is make the engine look a touch nicer with a painted rocker cover, carbon fibre bits etc and to have a glass engine cover to show it off. Has anyone done this? I cant find a glass engine cover anywhere...
Thanks
L
Get on Planetporsche - loads of transparent engine covers their.
None of them supress the heat and sound as well as the factory cover, and I'm not convinced that a Cayman engine is a work of art, even if decorated. You wouldnt see any of the Turbo stuff as its all near the exhausts at the bottom of the car.
I just got the EVO magazine, I cant believe how long its taken for Parr to install it - they have had that car for months.
Inspiring none the less...
None of them supress the heat and sound as well as the factory cover, and I'm not convinced that a Cayman engine is a work of art, even if decorated. You wouldnt see any of the Turbo stuff as its all near the exhausts at the bottom of the car.
I just got the EVO magazine, I cant believe how long its taken for Parr to install it - they have had that car for months.
Inspiring none the less...
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