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What's missing from this GT2?
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Somebody at Leeds OPC has been getting a bit over-enthusiastic with PhotoShop to make it look like the photo was taken there
996GT2 said:
What's missing from this GT2?
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Somebody at Leeds OPC has been getting a bit over-enthusiastic with PhotoShop to make it look like the photo was taken there
And a little 'over - enthusiastic' with the description!! My old car...
I was at CG yesterday having the new suspension components fitted (of which there were many) and getting corner weights, ride height and geo setup finished.
Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
Spoof said:
I was at CG yesterday having the new suspension components fitted (of which there were many) and getting corner weights, ride height and geo setup finished.
Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
I called from Singapore whilst your car was in mines booked for April good to know that you had a great day I'm really looking forward to my booking as I will not only have a car that is well set up but an education which to me is bloody good value for moneyFirstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
Spoof said:
I was at CG yesterday having the new suspension components fitted (of which there were many) and getting corner weights, ride height and geo setup finished.
Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
Good to hear. A day spent with Chris at CG is well worthwhile and enjoyable too.Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
On the basis of the many cynics on here, you're officially a "driving god" as you can notice the difference now you've had the car set up properly (oh and others will tell you you've "wasted your money" taking the car to Chris for a full set up btw).
My guess is most of the individuals posting this stuff have never owned or driven a 996 GT2 or if they have, they've not bothered to spend the money on having their cars set up by someone familiar with them, to enable them to experience the difference in how they behave once they've been set up properly.
Your car's "saggy arse" is the norm, and rest assured it would have done nothing for the car's handling. I wish more would do as you've done and spend the money to ensure their cars are properly set up so they handle as their makers intended, before buying bling and "pretty" wheels.
Slippydiff said:
Spoof said:
I was at CG yesterday having the new suspension components fitted (of which there were many) and getting corner weights, ride height and geo setup finished.
Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
Good to hear. A day spent with Chris at CG is well worthwhile and enjoyable too.Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
On the basis of the many cynics on here, you're officially a "driving god" as you can notice the difference now you've had the car set up properly (oh and others will tell you you've "wasted your money" taking the car to Chris for a full set up btw).
My guess is most of the individuals posting this stuff have never owned or driven a 996 GT2 or if they have, they've not bothered to spend the money on having their cars set up by someone familiar with them, to enable them to experience the difference in how they behave once they've been set up properly.
Your car's "saggy arse" is the norm, and rest assured it would have done nothing for the car's handling. I wish more would do as you've done and spend the money to ensure their cars are properly set up so they handle as their makers intended, before buying bling and "pretty" wheels.
The danger is of course with a fully adjustable car, it's easy to take it in the other direction as well! I know a few people that have had cars set up to someone else's settings & hated it... It pays to take it to the right place.
Slippydiff said:
Good to hear. A day spent with Chris at CG is well worthwhile and enjoyable too.
On the basis of the many cynics on here, you're officially a "driving god" as you can notice the difference now you've had the car set up properly (oh and others will tell you you've "wasted your money" taking the car to Chris for a full set up btw).
My guess is most of the individuals posting this stuff have never owned or driven a 996 GT2 or if they have, they've not bothered to spend the money on having their cars set up by someone familiar with them, to enable them to experience the difference in how they behave once they've been set up properly.
Your car's "saggy arse" is the norm, and rest assured it would have done nothing for the car's handling. I wish more would do as you've done and spend the money to ensure their cars are properly set up so they handle as their makers intended, before buying bling and "pretty" wheels.
On the basis of the many cynics on here, you're officially a "driving god" as you can notice the difference now you've had the car set up properly (oh and others will tell you you've "wasted your money" taking the car to Chris for a full set up btw).
My guess is most of the individuals posting this stuff have never owned or driven a 996 GT2 or if they have, they've not bothered to spend the money on having their cars set up by someone familiar with them, to enable them to experience the difference in how they behave once they've been set up properly.
Your car's "saggy arse" is the norm, and rest assured it would have done nothing for the car's handling. I wish more would do as you've done and spend the money to ensure their cars are properly set up so they handle as their makers intended, before buying bling and "pretty" wheels.
RWD cossie wil said:
Slippydiff said:
Spoof said:
I was at CG yesterday having the new suspension components fitted (of which there were many) and getting corner weights, ride height and geo setup finished.
Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
Good to hear. A day spent with Chris at CG is well worthwhile and enjoyable too.Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
On the basis of the many cynics on here, you're officially a "driving god" as you can notice the difference now you've had the car set up properly (oh and others will tell you you've "wasted your money" taking the car to Chris for a full set up btw).
My guess is most of the individuals posting this stuff have never owned or driven a 996 GT2 or if they have, they've not bothered to spend the money on having their cars set up by someone familiar with them, to enable them to experience the difference in how they behave once they've been set up properly.
Your car's "saggy arse" is the norm, and rest assured it would have done nothing for the car's handling. I wish more would do as you've done and spend the money to ensure their cars are properly set up so they handle as their makers intended, before buying bling and "pretty" wheels.
The danger is of course with a fully adjustable car, it's easy to take it in the other direction as well! I know a few people that have had cars set up to someone else's settings & hated it... It pays to take it to the right place.
I did start to think if it was just in my head but honestly you can genuinely feel a difference once Chris has set a car up and also just letting him drive the car, analysing the data and each componants condition truly is an education. Mine will be booked in for its yearly check in Oct.
consul said:
RWD cossie wil said:
Slippydiff said:
Spoof said:
I was at CG yesterday having the new suspension components fitted (of which there were many) and getting corner weights, ride height and geo setup finished.
Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
mines booked for April subject i get through sea trials on schedule, i agree your also getting an education
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
Good to hear. A day spent with Chris at CG is well worthwhile and enjoyable too.Firstly, wow. I've never owned a car that feels so planted, neutral, instinctive and just exciting to drive (my E30 M3 is surplus to requirement now). My confidence level in the car has tripled.
Initial readings on the car showed why it was such a 'fruity' thing to drive (Chris at CGs exact words)
I'll take photos of the geo and weight print outs later to save me typing it all, but in summary; New springs (original H&R Porsche - which incidently are a superseded part no. with a slightly different looking spring to my original) refurbed Bilstien dampers. Some bushes at the front while it was all apart anyway, as preventative maintenance, shims to effectively widen the track and introduce more camber at the front. Ride heights to the upper level of Porsche spec, corner weights to within a kilo or two, ARB setup in a fairly nuetral 2 at the rear and 1 at the front. For the camber, castor & toe settings I have this seems to work beautifully while I still learn the car.
mines booked for April subject i get through sea trials on schedule, i agree your also getting an education
I've probably forgotten a lot, the day started at 0815 and finished at gone 2000, so a massive thanks to Chris and Pete @ CG, their knowledge and ability to explain everything to me as they went along made it a very interesting and informative day.
Few pics of how it sits now.
One last thing, if you haven't had your suspension looked at in a while. Have a quick look at the aluminium spring cups, one of mine was about to fail, which could have been a very expensive failure.
On the basis of the many cynics on here, you're officially a "driving god" as you can notice the difference now you've had the car set up properly (oh and others will tell you you've "wasted your money" taking the car to Chris for a full set up btw).
My guess is most of the individuals posting this stuff have never owned or driven a 996 GT2 or if they have, they've not bothered to spend the money on having their cars set up by someone familiar with them, to enable them to experience the difference in how they behave once they've been set up properly.
Your car's "saggy arse" is the norm, and rest assured it would have done nothing for the car's handling. I wish more would do as you've done and spend the money to ensure their cars are properly set up so they handle as their makers intended, before buying bling and "pretty" wheels.
The danger is of course with a fully adjustable car, it's easy to take it in the other direction as well! I know a few people that have had cars set up to someone else's settings & hated it... It pays to take it to the right place.
I did start to think if it was just in my head but honestly you can genuinely feel a difference once Chris has set a car up and also just letting him drive the car, analysing the data and each componants condition truly is an education. Mine will be booked in for its yearly check in Oct.
Did you notice how few cars are for sale in Germany (@mobile.de where sellers from other continental European countries also advertise) right now.
If you exclude track cars and modded Turbos, there is only a couple.
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto/porsche-911.html?isSe...
If you exclude track cars and modded Turbos, there is only a couple.
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto/porsche-911.html?isSe...
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