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I don't think the "run out of talent" expression applies well to this driver. Clearly racing driver skills, awesome car control, and racing drivers do crash.
Now, I would promptly run out of talent and maybe lives (since I'm not a cat) on any one of those high speed oversteer moments...
Now, I would promptly run out of talent and maybe lives (since I'm not a cat) on any one of those high speed oversteer moments...
mollytherocker said:
Ive just watched this and am in complete and utter awe! A quarter of a turn of opposite lock through eau rouge at full chat. I would be upside down and spinning like a politician.
Just awesome control and very humbling.
MTR
Bert
Following the link on the truck behind the pranged car, you can see the guy driving in the vids is somebody called Pascal Pandelaar. Speaking as a mere mortal, he appears very talented to me. Looks like the driving of the car is shared so who is to even say if it was him that had the incident. I'd settle for that level of driving skill!
lusopiston said:
I don't think the "run out of talent" expression applies well to this driver. Clearly racing driver skills, awesome car control, and racing drivers do crash.
Now, I would promptly run out of talent and maybe lives (since I'm not a cat) on any one of those high speed oversteer moments...
Don't want to upset anyone by my comment of 'running out of talent' ie, stuffing the car into the pit wall, but I will point out that as entertaining as that footage is, he is 3-4 seconds of the pace of other cars in class (fact), and how long do you think his tyres are going to last driving like that in a six hour stint (if he gets to the end without crashing?)Now, I would promptly run out of talent and maybe lives (since I'm not a cat) on any one of those high speed oversteer moments...
Nicely driven in a car with no grip. It looked predictable in it's handling and he is clearly a much quicker driver than most on the grid. Passing becomes an issue in a long distance race with large grids. It could well have been passing a car that just didnt see him comming. I had real problems with traffic in the Britcar 24 in Henry's 996 cup. Some laps we were making 30 plus passes and some closing speeds are massive. If the slower car doesn't see you it is easy to have contact although obviously it is down to you if you do. To give you an idea of the differences in speeds, we lapped the Top Gear Car over 200 times during the race.
Do yourself a favour, look aound youtube under 901 passie, drivers Roman Caresani, and co driver Pascal Pandelaar.
You will see sideways action everywhere,. . . . . . . . while racing, yes.
I am not trying to take away any glory, just point out this isn't the way to go racing unless
a) your mad
b) your loaded, and can rebuild a wreck twice a season
c) you have gonads so big you can ride them like spacehoppers, and can't help that sort of behavior
You will see sideways action everywhere,. . . . . . . . while racing, yes.
I am not trying to take away any glory, just point out this isn't the way to go racing unless
a) your mad
b) your loaded, and can rebuild a wreck twice a season
c) you have gonads so big you can ride them like spacehoppers, and can't help that sort of behavior
charge said:
lusopiston said:
I don't think the "run out of talent" expression applies well to this driver. Clearly racing driver skills, awesome car control, and racing drivers do crash.
Now, I would promptly run out of talent and maybe lives (since I'm not a cat) on any one of those high speed oversteer moments...
Don't want to upset anyone by my comment of 'running out of talent' ie, stuffing the car into the pit wall, but I will point out that as entertaining as that footage is, he is 3-4 seconds of the pace of other cars in class (fact), and how long do you think his tyres are going to last driving like that in a six hour stint (if he gets to the end without crashing?)Now, I would promptly run out of talent and maybe lives (since I'm not a cat) on any one of those high speed oversteer moments...
I am the driver of this Porsche 911 from 1964.... My name is Pascal Pandelaar and i am the co-driver from the owner Roman Caresani.
I have to explane a few things.
We have to deal with small Dunlop Racing tyres 5.00M15. The's bias tyres are period and don't have that mutch grip.
You have to deal with constant 4 wheel slides to be quick.......
The You Tube video "Qualifying in traffic" is just one of my outlaps on old hard tyres...and for sure not fast but fun!!
Just watch my other video's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3fDkZ1kgg, this is one of my quick and good qualifying laps.
The car i allways drive is the red 911 with number 107 on it. The other 911 (with damage) is the sister car with start number 108.
For sure damage is allways possible in a big race like the Spa 6-hours. Untill now i never crashed or made a scrape in 8 times Spa 6-hours......
The onboard video's looks spectacular, but driving the car together with the Dunlop tyres is a good and predictable.
Duel Motorsport in Holland built a fantastic reliable Porsche 911 2 liter long distance race car with a great engine and gearbox.
Driving the small 911 around Spa is fantastic and the best race of the year!!!
I have to explane a few things.
We have to deal with small Dunlop Racing tyres 5.00M15. The's bias tyres are period and don't have that mutch grip.
You have to deal with constant 4 wheel slides to be quick.......
The You Tube video "Qualifying in traffic" is just one of my outlaps on old hard tyres...and for sure not fast but fun!!
Just watch my other video's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3fDkZ1kgg, this is one of my quick and good qualifying laps.
The car i allways drive is the red 911 with number 107 on it. The other 911 (with damage) is the sister car with start number 108.
For sure damage is allways possible in a big race like the Spa 6-hours. Untill now i never crashed or made a scrape in 8 times Spa 6-hours......
The onboard video's looks spectacular, but driving the car together with the Dunlop tyres is a good and predictable.
Duel Motorsport in Holland built a fantastic reliable Porsche 911 2 liter long distance race car with a great engine and gearbox.
Driving the small 911 around Spa is fantastic and the best race of the year!!!
Hello Pascal. Excellent video footage, you do look a little tight for space in there. I've yet to drive a 2 litre SWB car but I hope to have a drive at some point this year. I've raced 911's from 3.2 to 996 GT3RS on effectively sticky road tyres (the old P Zero C) to slicks. Obviously grip is not good on those narrow tyres but it all looks quite controllable. Any tips that you may care to offer would be appreciated.
regards, Graeme
regards, Graeme
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