Total number of 996 turbos produced
Discussion
I'm glad to see the discussion is back to the 996tt. The Last few post are similar to what I have been thinking. Some interesting thoughts.
Perhaps if all the hot hatch owners bought 996tt but kept them in the garage due to running cost then they might become even rarer and the price might go up. lol Who knows and who cares really. I bought mine to drive so the miles start to add up. Cant be helped.
Would be nice to own a car as rare as rocking horse sh$t though, very exclusive.
I felt a bit like that with my Cosworth, until repeatedly reminded it was a Ford and an Escort Pah...... I still like them as well ( I should get commission from the Cosworth PH forum for advertising lol)
Frank
Perhaps if all the hot hatch owners bought 996tt but kept them in the garage due to running cost then they might become even rarer and the price might go up. lol Who knows and who cares really. I bought mine to drive so the miles start to add up. Cant be helped.
Would be nice to own a car as rare as rocking horse sh$t though, very exclusive.
I felt a bit like that with my Cosworth, until repeatedly reminded it was a Ford and an Escort Pah...... I still like them as well ( I should get commission from the Cosworth PH forum for advertising lol)
Frank
ism123 said:
EvoSlayer said:
996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2000 16
Edited by EvoSlayer on Thursday 24th June 19:42
When I sell mine then I'll have to add a bit on as it's 1 of only 16 ever produced. What premium for exclusivity?? Is it really Model Year 2000, or just registered in 2000? MY2000 would be up to 31st August build date, and have "Y" as the 10th digit of the VIN.
I would have thought that those 16 cars were all Porsche and press cars, and unlikely to have reached the UK market. Happy to be proven wrong though.
[/anorak]
Richard Hamilton said:
ism123 said:
EvoSlayer said:
996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2000 16
Edited by EvoSlayer on Thursday 24th June 19:42
When I sell mine then I'll have to add a bit on as it's 1 of only 16 ever produced. What premium for exclusivity?? Is it really Model Year 2000, or just registered in 2000? MY2000 would be up to 31st August build date, and have "Y" as the 10th digit of the VIN.
I would have thought that those 16 cars were all Porsche and press cars, and unlikely to have reached the UK market. Happy to be proven wrong though.
[/anorak]
EvoSlayer said:
In answer to your question mate, well according to Adrian Streathers book anyway, numbers are:
996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2001 5324
MY2002 5908
MY2003 4322
MY2004 1273
MY2005 122
996 Turbo Cab
MY2003 308
MY2004 3099
MY2005 127
996 Turbo S Coupe
MY2004 2
MY2005 598
996 Turbo S Cab
MY2004 3
MY2005 960
ETA, Pretty much stacks up with Mr Hamiltons opening bid
are these world wide numbers or just the uk ?996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2001 5324
MY2002 5908
MY2003 4322
MY2004 1273
MY2005 122
996 Turbo Cab
MY2003 308
MY2004 3099
MY2005 127
996 Turbo S Coupe
MY2004 2
MY2005 598
996 Turbo S Cab
MY2004 3
MY2005 960
ETA, Pretty much stacks up with Mr Hamiltons opening bid
Edited by EvoSlayer on Thursday 24th June 19:42
Hi,
It is very interesting reading these comments in 2016 when the new 2nd gen 991 turbo makes the 997 tt look pedestrian. i have just purchased a 996 turbo cabriolet and have replaced all the tyres and am now considering replacing all the brake pipes for flexible ones.i cannot believe how much we are willing to spend on these cars I could have bought a BMW 330d with the money I have spent on it since I bought it in the summer of 2015.
The thing is they are addictive and once you get over the first few fast runs you want more and now there are mobile ECU re mappers charging less than £250 to increase BHP by 90 to 510bhp without changing the K16 turbos to K24s like the 997 TT have.The factory exhaust on 996 are heavy and don't get rid of the gasses quick enough and again £600 will buy a stainless 200 cell cat exhaust that will give you another 20 bhp this goes on and on the 996 and probably the 997 with the Mezger engines seem to be tuneable to 800 bhp.
I want to keep my mileage below the 100k threshold but obviously wish to use the car it very difficult as its now at 88k so I am regretfully going all the shopping trips in the wife's Mazda and leaving the shiny black cabriolet stuck in the garage.I realise from the 993 turbos astronomical rise since someone on here stated one was advertised for £45 on PH that the car will be more like 150k - £200k now 6 years later so it is worrying that if a similar event happens to the 996 TT which is a better all-round car than the 993TT then will anyone dare to take their cars out on the main highways anymore?
I paid £28,500 for mine in 2015 it has an hard top and is a lovely shiny black the only downside is a small oil drip which I daren't have sorted as
I have spent too much on the other things,anyway lets come back to values and we will see how much this car will appreciate in the next couple of years
if it does a 993 TT increase I would sell it and buy a new 991 TT with a 0-62 of around 2.5 secs which nothing in the uk could compete with.
It is very interesting reading these comments in 2016 when the new 2nd gen 991 turbo makes the 997 tt look pedestrian. i have just purchased a 996 turbo cabriolet and have replaced all the tyres and am now considering replacing all the brake pipes for flexible ones.i cannot believe how much we are willing to spend on these cars I could have bought a BMW 330d with the money I have spent on it since I bought it in the summer of 2015.
The thing is they are addictive and once you get over the first few fast runs you want more and now there are mobile ECU re mappers charging less than £250 to increase BHP by 90 to 510bhp without changing the K16 turbos to K24s like the 997 TT have.The factory exhaust on 996 are heavy and don't get rid of the gasses quick enough and again £600 will buy a stainless 200 cell cat exhaust that will give you another 20 bhp this goes on and on the 996 and probably the 997 with the Mezger engines seem to be tuneable to 800 bhp.
I want to keep my mileage below the 100k threshold but obviously wish to use the car it very difficult as its now at 88k so I am regretfully going all the shopping trips in the wife's Mazda and leaving the shiny black cabriolet stuck in the garage.I realise from the 993 turbos astronomical rise since someone on here stated one was advertised for £45 on PH that the car will be more like 150k - £200k now 6 years later so it is worrying that if a similar event happens to the 996 TT which is a better all-round car than the 993TT then will anyone dare to take their cars out on the main highways anymore?
I paid £28,500 for mine in 2015 it has an hard top and is a lovely shiny black the only downside is a small oil drip which I daren't have sorted as
I have spent too much on the other things,anyway lets come back to values and we will see how much this car will appreciate in the next couple of years
if it does a 993 TT increase I would sell it and buy a new 991 TT with a 0-62 of around 2.5 secs which nothing in the uk could compete with.
John-b6kp4 said:
Hi,
It is very interesting reading these comments in 2016 when the new 2nd gen 991 turbo makes the 997 tt look pedestrian. i have just purchased a 996 turbo cabriolet and have replaced all the tyres and am now considering replacing all the brake pipes for flexible ones.i cannot believe how much we are willing to spend on these cars I could have bought a BMW 330d with the money I have spent on it since I bought it in the summer of 2015.
The thing is they are addictive and once you get over the first few fast runs you want more and now there are mobile ECU re mappers charging less than £250 to increase BHP by 90 to 510bhp without changing the K16 turbos to K24s like the 997 TT have.The factory exhaust on 996 are heavy and don't get rid of the gasses quick enough and again £600 will buy a stainless 200 cell cat exhaust that will give you another 20 bhp this goes on and on the 996 and probably the 997 with the Mezger engines seem to be tuneable to 800 bhp.
I want to keep my mileage below the 100k threshold but obviously wish to use the car it very difficult as its now at 88k so I am regretfully going all the shopping trips in the wife's Mazda and leaving the shiny black cabriolet stuck in the garage.I realise from the 993 turbos astronomical rise since someone on here stated one was advertised for £45 on PH that the car will be more like 150k - £200k now 6 years later so it is worrying that if a similar event happens to the 996 TT which is a better all-round car than the 993TT then will anyone dare to take their cars out on the main highways anymore?
I paid £28,500 for mine in 2015 it has an hard top and is a lovely shiny black the only downside is a small oil drip which I daren't have sorted as
I have spent too much on the other things,anyway lets come back to values and we will see how much this car will appreciate in the next couple of years
if it does a 993 TT increase I would sell it and buy a new 991 TT with a 0-62 of around 2.5 secs which nothing in the uk could compete with.
I think your better off buying lottery tickets.It is very interesting reading these comments in 2016 when the new 2nd gen 991 turbo makes the 997 tt look pedestrian. i have just purchased a 996 turbo cabriolet and have replaced all the tyres and am now considering replacing all the brake pipes for flexible ones.i cannot believe how much we are willing to spend on these cars I could have bought a BMW 330d with the money I have spent on it since I bought it in the summer of 2015.
The thing is they are addictive and once you get over the first few fast runs you want more and now there are mobile ECU re mappers charging less than £250 to increase BHP by 90 to 510bhp without changing the K16 turbos to K24s like the 997 TT have.The factory exhaust on 996 are heavy and don't get rid of the gasses quick enough and again £600 will buy a stainless 200 cell cat exhaust that will give you another 20 bhp this goes on and on the 996 and probably the 997 with the Mezger engines seem to be tuneable to 800 bhp.
I want to keep my mileage below the 100k threshold but obviously wish to use the car it very difficult as its now at 88k so I am regretfully going all the shopping trips in the wife's Mazda and leaving the shiny black cabriolet stuck in the garage.I realise from the 993 turbos astronomical rise since someone on here stated one was advertised for £45 on PH that the car will be more like 150k - £200k now 6 years later so it is worrying that if a similar event happens to the 996 TT which is a better all-round car than the 993TT then will anyone dare to take their cars out on the main highways anymore?
I paid £28,500 for mine in 2015 it has an hard top and is a lovely shiny black the only downside is a small oil drip which I daren't have sorted as
I have spent too much on the other things,anyway lets come back to values and we will see how much this car will appreciate in the next couple of years
if it does a 993 TT increase I would sell it and buy a new 991 TT with a 0-62 of around 2.5 secs which nothing in the uk could compete with.
Should have bought one with 20,000miles if you wanted one as an investment.
With 88k on the clock, go out an enjoy it, don't worry about the potential appreciation.
£28k is a price of a new Ford Forcus, so stop worrying about the mileage and enjoy the car.
Edited by Bikeracer1098 on Wednesday 9th March 00:19
Interesting to read this thread and be able to do a bit of a retrospective on some of these 996T prices.
It would seem that in 2010 they were averaging between $20-25K, and there was some conjecture as to whether prices would keep dropping, or start heading north.
I'd suggest from what we are seeing...prices are back on the up and up (given that 993T now seems to be the domain of the very wealthy).
I'd put most of my eggs in the 928 basket....maybe it's time to diversify!
It would seem that in 2010 they were averaging between $20-25K, and there was some conjecture as to whether prices would keep dropping, or start heading north.
I'd suggest from what we are seeing...prices are back on the up and up (given that 993T now seems to be the domain of the very wealthy).
I'd put most of my eggs in the 928 basket....maybe it's time to diversify!
FFWIW which is not a lot...
Think you at right, if people want to be something that will go up better to find a ship that hasn't sailed, 928 has left harbour for good rare GT and GTS, maybe concours S1 or an early boxster 2.5 manual or 996, original with ambers - % rises might be healthy but from a low base, and could be wiped out by a big bill.
There were slightly less 997TT built than 996TT due to the recession and 997TT is really two cars, the mk1 Mezger with manual/tip and mk2 prices with DFI engine and PDK (yes you could get manual but now didn't)
I think good turbos have peaked at 45-50 for 996 manual and 50-55 to good manual 997.1, which you prefer is mainly down to looks and interior, I made my choice. I suspect both will depreciate slowly from here which will suit me just fine.
Both great cars
Think you at right, if people want to be something that will go up better to find a ship that hasn't sailed, 928 has left harbour for good rare GT and GTS, maybe concours S1 or an early boxster 2.5 manual or 996, original with ambers - % rises might be healthy but from a low base, and could be wiped out by a big bill.
There were slightly less 997TT built than 996TT due to the recession and 997TT is really two cars, the mk1 Mezger with manual/tip and mk2 prices with DFI engine and PDK (yes you could get manual but now didn't)
I think good turbos have peaked at 45-50 for 996 manual and 50-55 to good manual 997.1, which you prefer is mainly down to looks and interior, I made my choice. I suspect both will depreciate slowly from here which will suit me just fine.
Both great cars
Adam B said:
I think good turbos have peaked at 45-50 for 996 manual and 50-55 to good manual 997.1, which you prefer is mainly down to looks and interior, I made my choice. I suspect both will depreciate slowly from here which will suit me just fine.
I can see that scenario, but equally, when I look at how expensive older stuff has become - not just early 911, but things like the E-type - and also consider the pedigree of the turbo and GT 996/7 cars, I'm not sure there is not some more left to go in future.For obvious reasons, 2016 has been a bit of a maverick and we really need to see spring/summer 2017.
Will prices continue to rise or drop back?
Who knows, but when you consider what what other Porsche you can buy for £45-50k (996 turbo) or £50-55k (997 turbo) the turbo is still a fantastic buy.
Modern enough to be use, more than enough performance and hard to get hold of good cars...especially manual, coupes.
Owners aren't in a hurry to move on as there is also very little which offers such a package without spending considerably more money.
Who knows, but when you consider what what other Porsche you can buy for £45-50k (996 turbo) or £50-55k (997 turbo) the turbo is still a fantastic buy.
Modern enough to be use, more than enough performance and hard to get hold of good cars...especially manual, coupes.
Owners aren't in a hurry to move on as there is also very little which offers such a package without spending considerably more money.
Richard Hamilton said:
[anorak]
Is it really Model Year 2000, or just registered in 2000? MY2000 would be up to 31st August build date, and have "Y" as the 10th digit of the VIN.
I would have thought that those 16 cars were all Porsche and press cars, and unlikely to have reached the UK market. Happy to be proven wrong though.
[/anorak]
Looking at this, it's the ninth, not tenth character of the VIN on my car which has a letter; mine is July 2000 registered, but possibly a 2001 spec, because that letter is a "Z".Is it really Model Year 2000, or just registered in 2000? MY2000 would be up to 31st August build date, and have "Y" as the 10th digit of the VIN.
I would have thought that those 16 cars were all Porsche and press cars, and unlikely to have reached the UK market. Happy to be proven wrong though.
[/anorak]
Total number of 996 turbos built was 20499. This info from Turbo book published by Porsche Museum.
It's one of the most common 911 turbos produced.
The 2005 run out model 996 Turbo S is rare and understand only 120 came to UK. Owned one for a couple of years and broke even after some big bills. They can be very expensive to maintain and keep in good condition.
It's one of the most common 911 turbos produced.
The 2005 run out model 996 Turbo S is rare and understand only 120 came to UK. Owned one for a couple of years and broke even after some big bills. They can be very expensive to maintain and keep in good condition.
Hexanchus said:
Total number of 996 turbos built was 20499. This info from Turbo book published by Porsche Museum.
It's one of the most common 911 turbos produced.
The 2005 run out model 996 Turbo S is rare and understand only 120 came to UK. Owned one for a couple of years and broke even after some big bills. They can be very expensive to maintain and keep in good condition.
But pretty good to drive! :-)
It's one of the most common 911 turbos produced.
The 2005 run out model 996 Turbo S is rare and understand only 120 came to UK. Owned one for a couple of years and broke even after some big bills. They can be very expensive to maintain and keep in good condition.
But pretty good to drive! :-)
Mad March Taffy said:
Hexanchus said:
Total number of 996 turbos built was 20499. This info from Turbo book published by Porsche Museum.
It's one of the most common 911 turbos produced.
The 2005 run out model 996 Turbo S is rare and understand only 120 came to UK. Owned one for a couple of years and broke even after some big bills. They can be very expensive to maintain and keep in good condition.
But pretty good to drive! :-) It's one of the most common 911 turbos produced.
The 2005 run out model 996 Turbo S is rare and understand only 120 came to UK. Owned one for a couple of years and broke even after some big bills. They can be very expensive to maintain and keep in good condition.
lynchygt3 said:
EvoSlayer said:
In answer to your question mate, well according to Adrian Streathers book anyway, numbers are:
996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2001 5324
MY2002 5908
MY2003 4322
MY2004 1273
MY2005 122
996 Turbo Cab
MY2003 308
MY2004 3099
MY2005 127
996 Turbo S Coupe
MY2004 2
MY2005 598
996 Turbo S Cab
MY2004 3
MY2005 960
ETA, Pretty much stacks up with Mr Hamiltons opening bid
are these world wide numbers or just the uk ?996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2001 5324
MY2002 5908
MY2003 4322
MY2004 1273
MY2005 122
996 Turbo Cab
MY2003 308
MY2004 3099
MY2005 127
996 Turbo S Coupe
MY2004 2
MY2005 598
996 Turbo S Cab
MY2004 3
MY2005 960
ETA, Pretty much stacks up with Mr Hamiltons opening bid
Edited by EvoSlayer on Thursday 24th June 19:42
2006 118
2005 125
2004 133
2003 126
2002 143
2001 142
2000 138
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/porsche_911_...
Is that about right?
Digga said:
lynchygt3 said:
EvoSlayer said:
In answer to your question mate, well according to Adrian Streathers book anyway, numbers are:
996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2001 5324
MY2002 5908
MY2003 4322
MY2004 1273
MY2005 122
996 Turbo Cab
MY2003 308
MY2004 3099
MY2005 127
996 Turbo S Coupe
MY2004 2
MY2005 598
996 Turbo S Cab
MY2004 3
MY2005 960
ETA, Pretty much stacks up with Mr Hamiltons opening bid
are these world wide numbers or just the uk ?996 Turbo Coupe
MY2000 16
MY2001 5324
MY2002 5908
MY2003 4322
MY2004 1273
MY2005 122
996 Turbo Cab
MY2003 308
MY2004 3099
MY2005 127
996 Turbo S Coupe
MY2004 2
MY2005 598
996 Turbo S Cab
MY2004 3
MY2005 960
ETA, Pretty much stacks up with Mr Hamiltons opening bid
Edited by EvoSlayer on Thursday 24th June 19:42
2006 118
2005 125
2004 133
2003 126
2002 143
2001 142
2000 138
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/porsche_911_...
Is that about right?
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