Total number of 996 turbos produced

Total number of 996 turbos produced

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Hexanchus

172 posts

146 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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There are several other 911 turbo categories as well e.g. this one with much higher numbers

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/porsche_911_...


Mad March Taffy

508 posts

120 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Howmanyleft is very unreliable for 996T numbers

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Hexanchus said:
There are several other 911 turbo categories as well e.g. this one with much higher numbers

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/porsche_911_...
That looks more like it.


Mad March Taffy said:
Howmanyleft is very unreliable for 996T numbers
In what respect?

ScienceTeacher

408 posts

186 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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The number of first registrations, for example, is not correct:

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/porsche_911_...

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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ScienceTeacher said:
The number of first registrations, for example, is not correct:

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/porsche_911_...
Is there a better stab at UK registered numbers?

Hexanchus

172 posts

146 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Digga said:
ScienceTeacher said:
The number of first registrations, for example, is not correct:

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/porsche_911_...
Is there a better stab at UK registered numbers?
1881 by taking the veh0160 dataset and adding up all 911 turbo types between 2001-2005

Some of these could be unofficially imported but the bulk will be official Porsche i.e. C16 cars

Sound about right?



monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Porkie said:
sounds like you are trying to talk yourself into buying one? as an investment? then you are MAD!
Yes, crazy.

Mad March Taffy

508 posts

120 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Digga said:
In what respect?
Because you have look at quite a few model numbers and then make some correlation against the year of registration and also the description in the V5 is not always entirely accurate in terms of coupe v cabrio - most time it is close but..
For example

I have a 911 Turbo S cabrio

There is no breakdown on HML into coupe or cabrio
There might have been the odd car released in 2004, but nearly all were 2005 cars

If you search HML - you see that there 30 cars registered by end of 2003, 67 by end of 2004 and 212 by end of 2005.

You can see that (212-67) are all 996 Turbo S cars = 145 - no idea on breakdown though, plus the 42 claimed in 2004 - about 187

I've always assumed that there are around 180-200 Turbo S cars - with only around 25-30% being cabrios - so let's say around 120 coupe and 60 cabrios





g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Mad March Taffy said:
Digga said:
In what respect?
Because you have look at quite a few model numbers and then make some correlation against the year of registration and also the description in the V5 is not always entirely accurate in terms of coupe v cabrio - most time it is close but..
For example

I have a 911 Turbo S cabrio

There is no breakdown on HML into coupe or cabrio
There might have been the odd car released in 2004, but nearly all were 2005 cars

If you search HML - you see that there 30 cars registered by end of 2003, 67 by end of 2004 and 212 by end of 2005.

You can see that (212-67) are all 996 Turbo S cars = 145 - no idea on breakdown though, plus the 42 claimed in 2004 - about 187

I've always assumed that there are around 180-200 Turbo S cars - with only around 25-30% being cabrios - so let's say around 120 coupe and 60 cabrios
If you're looking at where the sweet spot for 996 turbo is you need to add in a few variables.

1) Demand for the Coupe is always going to be stronger than the Cabriolet
2) There are far fewer manual cars than tips
3) Turbo S will always add a premium, but it's really just a run out model with X50 package and ceramics
4) Then pick a solid colour scheme

They're great cars and still and amazing value v performance.




Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Hexanchus said:
1881 by taking the veh0160 dataset and adding up all 911 turbo types between 2001-2005

Some of these could be unofficially imported but the bulk will be official Porsche i.e. C16 cars

Sound about right?
Dunno. Sounds fewer than I thought, but others may know better.

ETA the data on HML looks suspect:

911 TURBO AUTO: 1,895
2005 520
2004 499
2003 445
2002 299
2001 132


911 TURBO: 6,990

2005 1.7k
2004 1.7k
2003 1.5k
2002 1.2k
2001 890


911 TURBO COUPE: 669
2005 125
2004 133
2003 126
2002 143
2001 142

911 TURBO CABRIOLET: 254
2005 53
2004 57
2003 51
2002 45
2001 48



Edited by Digga on Friday 9th September 09:44

Hexanchus

172 posts

146 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Digga said:
Hexanchus said:
1881 by taking the veh0160 dataset and adding up all 911 turbo types between 2001-2005

Some of these could be unofficially imported but the bulk will be official Porsche i.e. C16 cars

Sound about right?
Dunno. Sounds fewer than I thought, but others may know better.

ETA the data on HML looks suspect:

911 TURBO AUTO: 1,895
2005 520
2004 499
2003 445
2002 299
2001 132


911 TURBO: 6,990

2005 1.7k
2004 1.7k
2003 1.5k
2002 1.2k
2001 890


911 TURBO COUPE: 669
2005 125
2004 133
2003 126
2002 143
2001 142

911 TURBO CABRIOLET: 254
2005 53
2004 57
2003 51
2002 45
2001 48



Edited by Digga on Friday 9th September 09:44
Those numbers are cumulative! So don't add up previous years. You are better off looking at new registrations tab.

I can tell you that the total worldwide is 20499 and that is official Porsche number. So one of the most common 911 turbos. They were relatively cheap (some still are and probably for good reason) and very easy to tune/modify. So original well maintained examples are rare. The 2005 Turbo S is a rare beast with something like just over 100 UK cars and a low-miles manual coupe should hold it's value providing you keep it original. IMHO of course!

steffg60

86 posts

124 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Hi,

Does anyone have the numbers of how many built for 997 Turbo S?

Thanks

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Hexanchus said:
Those numbers are cumulative! So don't add up previous years. You are better off looking at new registrations tab.
wobble

getmecoat

Hexanchus

172 posts

146 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Digga said:
Hexanchus said:
Those numbers are cumulative! So don't add up previous years. You are better off looking at new registrations tab.
wobble

getmecoat
It didn't make sense to me at first :-)

The first registration numbers are not completely accurate as I understand they also include imports from independents and individuals. But should give a good idea as most will be official Porsche cars.

Shame that Porsche won't give out the official figures anymore. This info is now company confidential!


Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Hexanchus said:
It didn't make sense to me at first :-)
Glad it's not just me then!

The figure is way below what I thought when I was buying. It kind of chimes with what I'd observed; that since I got my car, there were possibly only two others I;d seen which had all the exterior, interior and trim requirements I'd staked as 'essential'.

One thing is a little odd about my car is that it is a 2000 car, with a 2001 chassis letter in the VIN, but it does not have a glovebox. I'd assumed that was only 2000 build cars?

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Hexanchus said:
Those numbers are cumulative! So don't add up previous years. You are better off looking at new registrations tab.

I can tell you that the total worldwide is 20499 and that is official Porsche number. So one of the most common 911 turbos. They were relatively cheap (some still are and probably for good reason) and very easy to tune/modify. So original well maintained examples are rare. The 2005 Turbo S is a rare beast with something like just over 100 UK cars and a low-miles manual coupe should hold it's value providing you keep it original. IMHO of course!
Be interested to understand where PH's got their numbers for the PH buying guide: Porsche 911 Turbo (996)

Quote PH:
By the time production ended, 22,062 996 Turbo models of every type had been built. The numbers break down as:

996 Turbo coupe: 16,965
996 Turbo Cabriolet: 3534
996 Turbo S coupe: 600
996 Turbo S Cabriolet: 963

The 996 Turbo S Cabriolet doesn't look right being higher than the coupe!

Hexanchus

172 posts

146 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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g7jhp said:
Be interested to understand where PH's got their numbers for the PH buying guide: Porsche 911 Turbo (996)

Quote PH:
By the time production ended, 22,062 996 Turbo models of every type had been built. The numbers break down as:
Don't know the PH source but 20499 comes from Porsche Museum book 'Turbo Stories' which covers 911 turbo from 930 to 997

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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22,062 is the global production figure that's the aggregate of the numbers EvoSlayer quotes earlier in the (resurrected) thread on 24th June 2010.

Hexanchus

172 posts

146 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Digga said:
22,062 is the global production figure that's the aggregate of the numbers EvoSlayer quotes earlier in the (resurrected) thread on 24th June 2010.
One total is from Adrian Streather's book the other from Porsche museum. Take your pick!

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Hexanchus said:
Digga said:
22,062 is the global production figure that's the aggregate of the numbers EvoSlayer quotes earlier in the (resurrected) thread on 24th June 2010.
One total is from Adrian Streather's book the other from Porsche museum. Take your pick!
It's close ball-park though, isn't it?