Cayman clubsport spotted

Cayman clubsport spotted

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cragswinter

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Thursday 26th August 2010
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Obviously this is useless without pictures but I'm waiting for dad to down load them so I'll add tonight.
Basically after a weekend at the ring we stayed around on Tuesday to see what was being tested on an industry pool day.
Porsche were out with a couple of (what looked like) standard 997s & a panamera 4s & then briefly what I assume to be the new cayman clubsport.
The car was painted in iris blue I think, fitted with the aero package, spyder wheels & fixed back bucket seats (which looked like the old gt3 type).
We only got one rear shot as we didn't realise it was coming, we were more interested in getting some decent shots of the sls roadster & the new m5.
I've tried picking out anymore details viewing the car in raw but you can't make out anything else,didn't look like it had a cage fitted anyways. In fact it looked like a standard aero cayman with spider wheels until we went over the pics again & saw the buckets. Hopefully Porsche will be making a bit more effort with the exteriors of the production cars!

will_968

2,138 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Cool. Look forward to seeing the pic(s).

cragswinter

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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Craig,

I replied to your 'porsche in cumbria' post!

Lightningman

1,228 posts

183 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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cragswinter said:
. Hopefully Porsche will be making a bit more effort with the exteriors of the production cars!
What were you hoping they would do?

Personally, I hope they simply follow the route of lighter doors, bonnet, wheels and some are touches. It should be functional but not a bodykitted monster ala Porsche tuners like Gemballa.

Strip it, cage it and give it more grunt.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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I so want this car,

I hope they do make it sub 1300kg and keep PASM off it.

cragswinter

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Sunday 29th August 2010
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Lightningman said:
cragswinter said:
. Hopefully Porsche will be making a bit more effort with the exteriors of the production cars!
What were you hoping they would do?

Personally, I hope they simply follow the route of lighter doors, bonnet, wheels and some are touches. It should be functional but not a bodykitted monster ala Porsche tuners like Gemballa.

Strip it, cage it and give it more grunt.
large carbon wing, carbon bonnet, big splitter & typical lairy colours & wheel combo's (obviously deleteable for the old farts!) ala gt3rs
it's a track car isn't it?!

Lightningman

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183 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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cragswinter said:
Lightningman said:
cragswinter said:
. Hopefully Porsche will be making a bit more effort with the exteriors of the production cars!
What were you hoping they would do?

Personally, I hope they simply follow the route of lighter doors, bonnet, wheels and some are touches. It should be functional but not a bodykitted monster ala Porsche tuners like Gemballa.

Strip it, cage it and give it more grunt.
large carbon wing, carbon bonnet, big splitter & typical lairy colours & wheel combo's (obviously deleteable for the old farts!) ala gt3rs
it's a track car isn't it?!
...and kill the market for it in one foul swoop.

Carbon is expensive and this car will appeal to 2 distinct groups: -

1) People who can't afford a GT3 but want a track/road biased Porsche
2) People who can afford a GT3/RS but don't feel comfortable tracking a £90-£120k car

If Porsche made the Cayman CS too expensive by adding carbon and other embellishments, they will (imho) kill the market for it.

Lairy colours, hell yes! but I don't want to see expensive additions that add little to weight saving but increase the price drastically.

The Boxster Spyder already has the lightest wheels of any current production Porsche (GT3/RS/GT2 RS included) and therefore, by using the same door skins and bonnet as the Spyder/GT3, the Cayman CS is already sounding pretty good. Uprated power - in line with the Spyder - and the optional track pack (light rear windows, cage, harnesses and FE), LSD and a few other tweeks and I think this could be a superb Porsche.

Now the question will be: Cayman CS for £50k or used 997 GT3 or 996 RS... scratchchin

cragswinter

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Sunday 29th August 2010
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Lightningman said:
cragswinter said:
Lightningman said:
cragswinter said:
. Hopefully Porsche will be making a bit more effort with the exteriors of the production cars!
What were you hoping they would do?

Personally, I hope they simply follow the route of lighter doors, bonnet, wheels and some are touches. It should be functional but not a bodykitted monster ala Porsche tuners like Gemballa.

Strip it, cage it and give it more grunt.
large carbon wing, carbon bonnet, big splitter & typical lairy colours & wheel combo's (obviously deleteable for the old farts!) ala gt3rs
it's a track car isn't it?!
...and kill the market for it in one foul swoop.

Carbon is expensive and this car will appeal to 2 distinct groups: -

1) People who can't afford a GT3 but want a track/road biased Porsche
2) People who can afford a GT3/RS but don't feel comfortable tracking a £90-£120k car

If Porsche made the Cayman CS too expensive by adding carbon and other embellishments, they will (imho) kill the market for it.

Lairy colours, hell yes! but I don't want to see expensive additions that add little to weight saving but increase the price drastically.

The Boxster Spyder already has the lightest wheels of any current production Porsche (GT3/RS/GT2 RS included) and therefore, by using the same door skins and bonnet as the Spyder/GT3, the Cayman CS is already sounding pretty good. Uprated power - in line with the Spyder - and the optional track pack (light rear windows, cage, harnesses and FE), LSD and a few other tweeks and I think this could be a superb Porsche.

Now the question will be: Cayman CS for £50k or used 997 GT3 or 996 RS... scratchchin
well heres what renault managed to bring to market at less than a 20% increase in price. carbon bonnet, polycarbonate rear windows, fia aproved seats, rear cage, harness', track tyres, titanium exhaust etc.




i won't even tell you what i paid for it when new! biggrin

Lightningman

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183 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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I owned an R26.R and it was superb; however, the list price was nuts (iirc mine was retail £27,500+) and Renault couldn't even finish the RHD production run due to poor sales; therefore, it is the perfect example of the balancing act I mentioned (make the car great but don't over price it) smile

cragswinter

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Sunday 29th August 2010
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you bought too early mate !

but back on topic, i think it's a likely call that the cs will get the aluminium doors & bonnet, the spyder spec engine & lsd,the spyder wheels & the same bucket type seats.
obviously the cayman has type specific suspension from the boxster so thats probably what they were testing last week but apart from all that i reckon thats all they'll do.
how much more than a boxster is a caymen 3 grand?
spyder is 46k base?
caymen cs around 49k base?
add a few grand for some goodies & you're looking at around 55k?

mayes911

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186 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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imho if porsche build the clubsports like the boxster spyder same spec/power hike and for less than £50k it will be a great value car(the runout sport model of 2008 had the extras but not the extra weight saving for if i remember £48k which was £4k abve base cs price.the cost of the extras alone on the spyder make the car a £50k car for £45k.

Lightningman

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183 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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cragswinter said:
you bought too early mate !
I said MSRP was £27k+, not that I paid that wink

However, my point stands - too much and it will be a white elephant.

However, I'm in agreement with the suggested MSRP on this thread. My feeling is that it will be £50k with options, which for what could be a great limited run Porsche, isn't a bad price imho. As the model will also be a run-out, I imagine numbers will stay down and therefore, like most limited run Porsches, residual value will stay stronger than the standard model.

Lightningman

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183 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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It may have also been one of the 2012 Cayman test mules you saw? - they has been seen on the Ring a fair bit





Edited by Lightningman on Sunday 29th August 17:21

cragswinter

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Sunday 29th August 2010
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Judging by the rear PU it may have been a different car but it certainly looks the same colour, the car we saw also definatly had the buckets in but as you can see in the picture they look like the old type rather than the more modern ones seen since the introduction of the 997?
Like I said it isn't a great pic & it was only out for a couple of laps

jackwood

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209 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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Anyone know what those wheels are on that second spy shot car?

bobt

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204 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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Lightningman said:
It may have also been one of the 2012 Cayman test mules you saw? - they has been seen on the Ring a fair bit





Edited by Lightningman on Sunday 29th August 17:21
Seems to be sitting about 60mm to high for some reason.

mayes911

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186 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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is that a new type of sports exhaust ?????

Soovy

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Sunday 29th August 2010
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WTF is wrong with that exhaust pipe?


jackwood

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Sunday 29th August 2010
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mayes911 said:
is that a new type of sports exhaust ?????
It looks like something cobbled together in a back street chop shop!