sports chrono retro fit???

[996TT_STEVO]

[Neil Allan]

[Nano2nd]

Wills2 said:

Having this retro fitted at the end of month its £650 inc VAT and labour.

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 16th September 22:38

which OPC is that, i'm very tempted by this and might get cruise done at the same time

[Wills2]

Nano2nd said:

Wills2 said:

Having this retro fitted at the end of month its £650 inc VAT and labour.

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 16th September 22:38

which OPC is that, i'm very tempted by this and might get cruise done at the same time

Bolton.

Edited by Wills2 on Saturday 18th September 22:25

Edited by Wills2 on Saturday 18th September 22:26

[perfectporsche]

So pope if my car as not got PASM or sports exhaust theres no point in fitting it if all it does is makes it slightly quicker on accelleration in a straight line is it ?

Pope said:

Nano2nd said:

Pope said:

Yep, there was a TI released this week for 'Sport Mode' retrofit. You get everything except the Chronograph on the dash - even overboost if the car is a turbo without the SCP option. New dash panel with extra switch(es) and some coding, should be a desirable upgrade for those with cars without it

whats a "TI" ?

Sorry, 'Technical Information' bulletin - in work mode

The 'Sport' option on a turbo increases midrange torque by 60Nm via 'overboost'.

From the Owners Manual of NA cars:

Sport mode

Function:

A sportier car setup is obtained when Sport mode is switched on. Interventions by the Porsche control systems are intentionally shifted towards greater agility and driving performance.

– PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) is automatically changed to Sport mode, resulting in a stiffer suspension setup.

– The Tiptronic S switches to a sporty gear-changing map and shortens the gear shifting periods. Gear changes take place faster.

– PSM (Porsche Stability Management) control is sporty. PSM interventions take place later than in Normal mode. The driver can manoeuvre the vehicle with greater agility at its performance limits, without having to dispense with the assistance of PSM in emergency situations.

– The electronic accelerator pedal reacts sooner, and the engine is more responsive to throttle inputs. When Sport mode is switched on, this function is activated only after the driver has floored the accelerator pedal or released it briefly.

– The characteristics of the rpm limiter is set to “firmer”, i.e. the engine is immediately throttled when the performance limits are reached.

[Nano2nd]

perfectporsche said:

So pope if my car as not got PASM or sports exhaust theres no point in fitting it if all it does is makes it slightly quicker on accelleration in a straight line is it ?

you get the reduced PSM mode which i the main reason i would want it, allows a little more "fun" but still had a safety net for when u get carried away

i dunno if you get the computer functions too with retro fit?

[Wills2]

Nano2nd said:

perfectporsche said:

So pope if my car as not got PASM or sports exhaust theres no point in fitting it if all it does is makes it slightly quicker on accelleration in a straight line is it ?

you get the reduced PSM mode which i the main reason i would want it, allows a little more "fun" but still had a safety net for when u get carried away

i dunno if you get the computer functions too with retro fit?

Bolton OPC confirmed that you get the computer functions as thats all software related the only thing you don't get is the chrono wart.

[Nano2nd]

so can you still do the lap timing thing? is the stopwatch actually activated from the clock or on the PCM screen?

[Wills2]

Nano2nd said:

so can you still do the lap timing thing? is the stopwatch actually activated from the clock or on the PCM screen?

Good question. Not sure, but I see no reason why all the functionality isn't present sans the dash mounted stop watch, I'll let you know when its fitted on the 27th.

Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 19th September 22:43

[Pope]

The Retrofit is 'Sport mode' not 'Sport Chrono' you would get the individual memory functions: Light control, Wiper control, Door locking modes and Climate control setting. The main differences are the throttle response and PSM manipulations, it makes the car feel more urgent.

[Wills2]

Pope said:

The Retrofit is 'Sport mode' not 'Sport Chrono' you would get the individual memory functions: Light control, Wiper control, Door locking modes and Climate control setting. The main differences are the throttle response and PSM manipulations, it makes the car feel more urgent.

So no timer in the PCM unit? not that it matters

[Nano2nd]

Wills2 said:

Pope said:

The Retrofit is 'Sport mode' not 'Sport Chrono' you would get the individual memory functions: Light control, Wiper control, Door locking modes and Climate control setting. The main differences are the throttle response and PSM manipulations, it makes the car feel more urgent.

So no timer in the PCM unit? not that it matters

bttt for Wills, so ho ware u finding the SC, what exactly did you get in terms of features in the end?

[Wills2]

Nano2nd said:

Wills2 said:

Pope said:

The Retrofit is 'Sport mode' not 'Sport Chrono' you would get the individual memory functions: Light control, Wiper control, Door locking modes and Climate control setting. The main differences are the throttle response and PSM manipulations, it makes the car feel more urgent.

So no timer in the PCM unit? not that it matters

bttt for Wills, so how are u finding the SC, what exactly did you get in terms of features in the end?

I like it.

It's really just the throttle response when all said and done (and therefore expensive for what you get) plus the added PCM options but no timer in the PCM oh and that all important extra button.

But with it on the car feels much more urgent at any speed I'd recommend it if you have £650 doing nothing. (Christ was it that much!)

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 4th November 22:21

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 4th November 22:22

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 4th November 22:23

[Callughan]

Wills2 said:

Nano2nd said:

Wills2 said:

Pope said:

The Retrofit is 'Sport mode' not 'Sport Chrono' you would get the individual memory functions: Light control, Wiper control, Door locking modes and Climate control setting. The main differences are the throttle response and PSM manipulations, it makes the car feel more urgent.

So no timer in the PCM unit? not that it matters

bttt for Wills, so how are u finding the SC, what exactly did you get in terms of features in the end?

I like it.

It's really just the throttle response when all said and done (and therefore expensive for what you get) plus the added PCM options but no timer in the PCM oh and that all important extra button.

But with it on the car feels much more urgent at any speed I'd recommend it if you have £650 doing nothing. (Christ was it that much!)

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 4th November 22:21

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 4th November 22:22

Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 4th November 22:23

Glad they doing this now, though many OPC's are clueless at the mo that they can!

[Durzel]

Got Sport Mode retrofit fitted today (2008 Cayman S Gen 1) along with PSE, and I'm confused..

I press Sport, PSE goes louder (nice), Sport comes up on dash. Also, strangely, I have trip timers and "trip/ref memory", etc that I thought you only get with Chrono? (there's an option under "Trip" for "Sports Display".

I also can't for the life of me find where the personal memory options for lights, wiper, aircon, etc are located. Can anyone help?

[Callughan]

From memory on the on board computer accessed via the stalk.

[Durzel]

Checked the PCM manual, it should be under Main when you press Set. It's not listed as being controllable on the stalk (apart from the Chrono stopwatch which I obviously don't have).

If you press Set on the Main screen you should see an option for "PCM system", "Main Display" and "Indiv. Memory". The Indiv. Memory option takes you to another page for Lights, Locks, Wiper, etc. I don't have this "Indiv. Memory" option at all, but I should according to http://www.porsche.com/uk/tequipment-highlights/

Tequipment said:

In conjunction with PCM, also includes personal memory for light, wiper, air conditioning and door lock settings

Maybe Pope can help me given he works where the car was done.

Edited by Durzel on Sunday 2nd October 06:28

[Mario149]

Thread resurrection: I'm toying with the idea of a 997.2 GTS and have just enquired about retrofitting Sport Chrono essentially just for the loosening off of the PSM on track. However, the OPC stocking the car I'm interested in says they can only fit the Sport button (presume they meant Sport+?) and that only the throttle sensitivity would be changed, there wouldn't be any change to the PSM limits.

Can anyone confirm this? Pope?!

[Cheib]

Mario149 said:

Thread resurrection: I'm toying with the idea of a 997.2 GTS and have just enquired about retrofitting Sport Chrono essentially just for the loosening off of the PSM on track. However, the OPC stocking the car I'm interested in says they can only fit the Sport button (presume they meant Sport+?) and that only the throttle sensitivity would be changed, there wouldn't be any change to the PSM limits.

Can anyone confirm this? Pope?!

My car is a Manual 997.2 GTS so it may be slightly different from a PDK which also has Sport +. Pressing the Sport button does the following

- Increases throttle sensitivity (great in a manual when you're using heal & toe!)
- Loosens off PSM from 7 deg to 12 deg angle of slip (this is what I was told by a PEC instructor last year when I had my car on track their)
- Suspension firms up
- PSE valve opened

The last two can be turned off independently obviously.

My car is driven with Sport button on and Suspension in normal, PSE on!

When he says he can only fit the Sport button he may be referring to not being able to fit the Sports Chrono Clock on the dash ?

Can't help on Sports+

[Mario149]

This is all getting very confusing. Spoke to Bolton as someon on another thread said they had it retrofitted there and they ran the car's chassis number into their system and the option....

997.044.903.01 Sports mode manual transmission

....came up as retrofittable. The blurb with it (Bolton are going to send me the text) seems to suggest that you get an even sharper throttle map, looser PSM and launch control, but no dash timer clock.