New Porsche Cayenne Diesel
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Just had my four 21" Pirelli P-Zero's replaced at 20,000 miles with a set of Michelin Latitude Sports (N1).
The rears (1.3mm left), wore out quicker than the fronts (2.1mm remaining), which is strange when most of the cornering and steering forces go through the front. There's usually only me in the vehicle but the backs were heavily worn in the centre, and I always keep them at the lowest of the two recommended pressure options (part load) shown on the tyre pressure info sticker. If the same starts to happen with the Michies I'll swop them over at 10k.
It makes me wonder if even 42 psi is too high for a lone driver and no luggage, as I read in the driver's manual (page 299) that in certain countries (not sure if the UK is one of them) if you have TPMS which also has the 'comfort pressure' menu, AND you stay below 100mph, you can knock 3 psi off the regulation 42 for the rears and 37 for the fronts to enhance the ride.
Anyway, early signs for the Michelins are good. There seems to be slightly less road noise, the steering is a smidge lighter, and it doesn't wander to the left anymore. I've not used them in the rain yet, but they seem OK on dewy surfaces first thing in the morning. I'll report back if they aren't up to the high standard of the Pirelli's.
The rears (1.3mm left), wore out quicker than the fronts (2.1mm remaining), which is strange when most of the cornering and steering forces go through the front. There's usually only me in the vehicle but the backs were heavily worn in the centre, and I always keep them at the lowest of the two recommended pressure options (part load) shown on the tyre pressure info sticker. If the same starts to happen with the Michies I'll swop them over at 10k.
It makes me wonder if even 42 psi is too high for a lone driver and no luggage, as I read in the driver's manual (page 299) that in certain countries (not sure if the UK is one of them) if you have TPMS which also has the 'comfort pressure' menu, AND you stay below 100mph, you can knock 3 psi off the regulation 42 for the rears and 37 for the fronts to enhance the ride.
Anyway, early signs for the Michelins are good. There seems to be slightly less road noise, the steering is a smidge lighter, and it doesn't wander to the left anymore. I've not used them in the rain yet, but they seem OK on dewy surfaces first thing in the morning. I'll report back if they aren't up to the high standard of the Pirelli's.
Looks like a last push for a few final Cayenne orders is underway amidst all the excitement over the Macan and rumours of next year's Cayenne facelift.
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Thanks for info on tyres.
The Platinum run out model looks very good value bearing in mind that the facelift is expected to have only minor differences, although we don't yet know about the engines yet.
The pricing of the Macan seems surprisingly high so don't think we should be surprised to see a considerable price hike when the facelift Cayenne model is launched.
Isn't it about time for some new colours too.
The Platinum run out model looks very good value bearing in mind that the facelift is expected to have only minor differences, although we don't yet know about the engines yet.
The pricing of the Macan seems surprisingly high so don't think we should be surprised to see a considerable price hike when the facelift Cayenne model is launched.
Isn't it about time for some new colours too.
Interesting tyre feedback chaps....
My Diesel S has just ticked over 10K miles, on the factory Yokohama 21", quite a soft rubber I think. I'm fanatical about tyres and pressures, and after fiddling got more even wear with 3.0 bar on the rears (43 PSI), and 2.7 bar (39 PSI) on the fronts. Less than that scrubbed the edges noticeably within 1000 miles. There's plenty of life left in them, but they've just started to tramline more noticeably. I'm normally the only one in the car, lots of A road and mostly motorway, often pressing on at a expedited rate v.early or late, noticed much wallowing at three figures and lower pressures. Still 29MPG though :-).
My Diesel S has just ticked over 10K miles, on the factory Yokohama 21", quite a soft rubber I think. I'm fanatical about tyres and pressures, and after fiddling got more even wear with 3.0 bar on the rears (43 PSI), and 2.7 bar (39 PSI) on the fronts. Less than that scrubbed the edges noticeably within 1000 miles. There's plenty of life left in them, but they've just started to tramline more noticeably. I'm normally the only one in the car, lots of A road and mostly motorway, often pressing on at a expedited rate v.early or late, noticed much wallowing at three figures and lower pressures. Still 29MPG though :-).
Cobnapint said:
edo said:
5th best depreciating car - retaining 86% after a year.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/10/uncat...
Interesting, but those figures won't mean too much to your local OPC salesman when he gives you his valuation of your p&j 3 weeks before you're due to collect your new one.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/10/uncat...
Sierra Mike said:
Someone needs to tell the OPCs. I paid £62k for a Cayenne Diesel in October 2011 and have just been offered £38k as "top book" value by my OPC. It's in excellent condition and the fact it has done 16,000 miles was being used to down value it. Unbelievable. I'm less than impressed with what the OPC has offered so my inbound 991 GT3 could either be the last car I buy from my OPC or the last Porsche I buy altogether.
£38K, the OPC selling price for one of that age and mileage is circa £50KDealer told me they can't get enough secondhand diesels to satisfy the market demand.
Sierra Mike said:
Someone needs to tell the OPCs. I paid £62k for a Cayenne Diesel in October 2011 and have just been offered £38k as "top book" value by my OPC. It's in excellent condition and the fact it has done 16,000 miles was being used to down value it. Unbelievable. I'm less than impressed with what the OPC has offered so my inbound 991 GT3 could either be the last car I buy from my OPC or the last Porsche I buy altogether.
What did you expect? Seems about right to me I'm sad to say. I feel for you but buying new, with add ons, has never been anything but very expensive. You should do a lot better with the GT3....
Sierra Mike said:
Someone needs to tell the OPCs. I paid £62k for a Cayenne Diesel in October 2011 and have just been offered £38k as "top book" value by my OPC. It's in excellent condition and the fact it has done 16,000 miles was being used to down value it. Unbelievable. I'm less than impressed with what the OPC has offered so my inbound 991 GT3 could either be the last car I buy from my OPC or the last Porsche I buy altogether.
That's quite an insult from your OPC, but unfortunately it's to be expected, and it just shows what a farce the residual figures are. The retained value percentage figure only really benefits the commission hungry salesman who's selling your vehicle on, what he choses to offer you is a different matter altogether. They aren't called main stealers for nothing.Sierra Mike said:
Cobnapint said:
edo said:
5th best depreciating car - retaining 86% after a year.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/10/uncat...
Interesting, but those figures won't mean too much to your local OPC salesman when he gives you his valuation of your p&j 3 weeks before you're due to collect your new one.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/10/uncat...
D1ckie said:
Has anyone got confirmation of the Cayenne facelift for 2014 as I'm being told 2015, or is that just the Turbo??
As they havent released the Turbo S yet, which normally indicates that a new model will come within 12 months, would mean the facelift would be a year later
I was told by my OPC that facelift is next year and that MY2015 cars start production in Sept 2014, with first cars arriving at dealerships in Oct. I think dealers confuse people not in the know of production schedules and nomenclature of actual date vs MY cars.As they havent released the Turbo S yet, which normally indicates that a new model will come within 12 months, would mean the facelift would be a year later
PF
PorkaFly said:
I was told by my OPC that facelift is next year and that MY2015 cars start production in Sept 2014, with first cars arriving at dealerships in Oct. I think dealers confuse people not in the know of production schedules and nomenclature of actual date vs MY cars.
PF
Thanks, maybe then its the Diesel and S models that will be 2014 and Turbo model will be later, 2015..... great PF
Sierra Mike said:
Someone needs to tell the OPCs. I paid £62k for a Cayenne Diesel in October 2011 and have just been offered £38k as "top book" value by my OPC. It's in excellent condition and the fact it has done 16,000 miles was being used to down value it. Unbelievable. I'm less than impressed with what the OPC has offered so my inbound 991 GT3 could either be the last car I buy from my OPC or the last Porsche I buy altogether.
I'm looking for a cayenne. Would you send me details please. Darrenpremier@gmail.com
catfood12 said:
Interesting tyre feedback chaps....
My Diesel S has just ticked over 10K miles, on the factory Yokohama 21", quite a soft rubber I think. I'm fanatical about tyres and pressures, and after fiddling got more even wear with 3.0 bar on the rears (43 PSI), and 2.7 bar (39 PSI) on the fronts. Less than that scrubbed the edges noticeably within 1000 miles. There's plenty of life left in them, but they've just started to tramline more noticeably. I'm normally the only one in the car, lots of A road and mostly motorway, often pressing on at a expedited rate v.early or late, noticed much wallowing at three figures and lower pressures. Still 29MPG though :-).
Catfood...now you've done 10k miles what's your verdict? You came from an RS6 Avant, which I have as well as my 7.2RS, and am now seriously thinking about adding one of these as we need another day to day car; which would then take on the family duties and European blasts to slopes and Summer trips with youngsters. Has to be diesel as 2.5-3k Summer trips across the content are wallet crushing in fuel. Despite that I'm keeping my RS6 for low mileage stuff since we need two family cars. I've driven the standard diesel Cayenne and was really impressed with the real world performance of this and think the performance figures bely the fact it genuinely feels spritely and fast, so the S must be very impressive, but haven't driven one. What real-world mpg are you getting as I imagine you press the right foot somewhat coming from the RS6?My Diesel S has just ticked over 10K miles, on the factory Yokohama 21", quite a soft rubber I think. I'm fanatical about tyres and pressures, and after fiddling got more even wear with 3.0 bar on the rears (43 PSI), and 2.7 bar (39 PSI) on the fronts. Less than that scrubbed the edges noticeably within 1000 miles. There's plenty of life left in them, but they've just started to tramline more noticeably. I'm normally the only one in the car, lots of A road and mostly motorway, often pressing on at a expedited rate v.early or late, noticed much wallowing at three figures and lower pressures. Still 29MPG though :-).
Any views from standard diesel owners all appreciated given the choice - thanks.
PF
What may appear to be a daft question, looking at a s/h new shape diesel.....
If the multi-function wheel isn't fitted - where's the phone buttons?
My guess is they're on the centre console but after 10 years of having buttons on the steering wheel for phone, music and cruise am I daft to discount a s/h Cayenne because it doesn't have one?
If the multi-function wheel isn't fitted - where's the phone buttons?
My guess is they're on the centre console but after 10 years of having buttons on the steering wheel for phone, music and cruise am I daft to discount a s/h Cayenne because it doesn't have one?
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