New Porsche Cayenne Diesel

[EricE]

Kananga said:

Apologies, one more question:

I've seen various views on the Luxor Beige interior (causing windscreen glare, etc).

Is the "black smooth finish" interior much nicer than "Luxor Beige Standard" ?

Are you talking about full leather?

Luxor Beige with full leather looks good. Luxor Beige without full leather however makes a Dacia dashboard look like artisan craftsmanship in comparison. It's so bad, it shouldn't even be an option in my eyes.

Black looks "ok" in plastic but I personally think full leather is a must with these cars, even though it might be pricey, it makes a substantial difference in the perceived quality of the interior.

[Kananga]

Thanks Eric.

There was a mega spec Cayenne on at a fairly cheap price (black with Luxor, air suspension, adaptive seats, keyless entry, etc). But it wasn't full leather, which I had thought was important, as you suggest.

[nomank]

Well it looks like it's time for my 958 to go Mrs wants a Lexus RX so going back to one of those. Will miss the thing but just can't financially justify two large cars. Loved the car and ownership. Glad I have had experience of the brand. So if anyone is by any chance looking around for one - PM me...

Spec wise it's:
3L Diesel | 2010 '10 plate | Blue metallic | 88k miles
Porsche Warranty till December
Serviced December 23rd
21-inch Turbo II with wheel arch extensions
NOTE: Currently has the 18” Porsche wheels with winter tyres.
Automatic tailgate
Automatically dimming exterior and interior mirrors
ISOFIX child seat mounting on front passenger seat
Heated seats – front
Heated windscreen
Light comfort package
Memory function for driver's seat and passenger seat and exterior mirrors
Mobile phone preparation – simcard slot
Telephone module - Bluetooth
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) incl. navigation module
Privacy glass - for rear side windows and rear window
Stainless steel apron - front and rear
Steering wheel - three-spoke multi-function

[Burwood]

nomank said:

Well it looks like it's time for my 958 to go Mrs wants a Lexus RX so going back to one of those. Will miss the thing but just can't financially justify two large cars. Loved the car and ownership. Glad I have had experience of the brand. So if anyone is by any chance looking around for one - PM me...

Spec wise it's:
3L Diesel | 2010 '10 plate | Blue metallic | 88k miles
Porsche Warranty till December
Serviced December 23rd
21-inch Turbo II with wheel arch extensions
NOTE: Currently has the 18” Porsche wheels with winter tyres.
Automatic tailgate
Automatically dimming exterior and interior mirrors
ISOFIX child seat mounting on front passenger seat
Heated seats – front
Heated windscreen
Light comfort package
Memory function for driver's seat and passenger seat and exterior mirrors
Mobile phone preparation – simcard slot
Telephone module - Bluetooth
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) incl. navigation module
Privacy glass - for rear side windows and rear window
Stainless steel apron - front and rear
Steering wheel - three-spoke multi-function

You have my deepest sympathies. You are moving from an epic car to an epically terrible one. wtf

[thewharftrader]

Quick q for one of you:

Was at the dealer yesterday finalising my spec for a new Cayenne. The delaer was telling me about one of the 'benefits' of the Comfort Memory Package is that it has a smoother leather finish on the seats - it wasn’t that there was more leather (ie. the extended leather package/smooth leather). He claimed showed me one with the comfort memory package and one without and you could see the different in leather. He claimed it didn’t have any sort of leather upgrade box ticked other than the Comfort Memory Package and said that I wouldn’t find it in any literature (which I could not). Now, can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
Thanks

[IPK]

thewharftrader said:

Quick q for one of you:

Was at the dealer yesterday finalising my spec for a new Cayenne. The delaer was telling me about one of the 'benefits' of the Comfort Memory Package is that it has a smoother leather finish on the seats - it wasn’t that there was more leather (ie. the extended leather package/smooth leather). He claimed showed me one with the comfort memory package and one without and you could see the different in leather. He claimed it didn’t have any sort of leather upgrade box ticked other than the Comfort Memory Package and said that I wouldn’t find it in any literature (which I could not). Now, can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
Thanks

Hi,

I was told the same. The leather seat finish in my Cayenne is exactly the same finish as my 991. This is apparently due to the comfort memory package. The extended leather then includes leather over the dash amongst other places, which is also nice.

[thewharftrader]

Thanks IPK - I will now be intrigued when I pick it up because I have now agreed the spec with Comfort Memory Pack (and not extended). Another dealer said this was not the case and just the standard leather (ie no difference at all). I wanted that pack for the other features so will treat it as a Brucey bonus if so (not that I would be unhappy with 'just' the standard leather)

[Kananga]

Wharf trader, what's the rest of your spec ?

[Cobnapint]

Just had my OPC call and ask if I'd like to put in a letter of intent on the next gen Cayenne, which he expects to appear in the autumn of 2016.

Judging by how quick the new Q7 was developed, this is entirely possible.

He also said the 4.2 V8 lump in the Cayenne S Diesel was being pulled this summer because it doesn't comply with EU6.
No word on the engine to replace it.

[sajafzal]

Cobnapint said:

Just had my OPC call and ask if I'd like to put in a letter of intent on the next gen Cayenne, which he expects to appear in the autumn of 2016.

Judging by how quick the new Q7 was developed, this is entirely possible.

He also said the 4.2 V8 lump in the Cayenne S Diesel was being pulled this summer because it doesn't comply with EU6.
No word on the engine to replace it.

Wow how time flies, so are you going to do it ?, mine is going in for an inspection for extended warranty in 2 weeks time and MOT

Not had the call and not sure what I would do, still enjoying mine !!!

Saj

[Cobnapint]

Yes, I think I might have a dabble. I was planning to swap to next gen anyway in 2017 to avoid any draconian EU6 surcharges that might be coming our way in 2020.

Mine will have 57k on the clock by autumn 2016 so will be just ripe for swapping. I just hope they don't make it any more than an inch longer - its a bit tight in Cobs garage.

[anonymous-user]

Cobnapint said:

draconian EU6 surcharges that might be coming our way in 2020.

Is this a fact? If so, do we know what/how?

[sajafzal]

I was thinking of changing in 2017 too, probably by the time new one arrives with the options that I would want will be 2017 anyway

[Cobnapint]

garyhun said:

Cobnapint said:

draconian EU6 surcharges that might be coming our way in 2020.

Is this a fact? If so, do we know what/how?

Boris has said all non-EU6 compliant diesels will be charged extra for entering the ultra-low emmision zone in central London from 7/9/2020, and other City Councils are looking into doing the same.

That's before any extra that may get loaded onto the cost of road tax.

So basically, if you're caught driving an EU5 vehicle in 2020 you'll be treated like a mugger with a crack habit and be told to cough up for the privelage.

[anonymous-user]

Cobnapint said:

garyhun said:

Cobnapint said:

draconian EU6 surcharges that might be coming our way in 2020.

Is this a fact? If so, do we know what/how?

Boris has said all non-EU6 compliant diesels will be charged extra for entering the ultra-low emmision zone in central London from 7/9/2020, and other City Councils are looking into doing the same.

That's before any extra that may get loaded onto the cost of road tax.

So basically, if you're caught driving an EU5 vehicle in 2020 you'll be treated like a mugger with a crack habit and be told to cough up for the privelage.

Am I OK in the countryside?

[Cobnapint]

We'll keep your whereabouts under wraps until above average emissions become publicly acceptable again. You should be fine.

Edited by Cobnapint on Tuesday 14th April 22:37

[anonymous-user]

Good to hear - there's a new V8 coming into my life this year so happy days!

[Fezzaman]

Cobnapint said:

Boris has said all non-EU6 compliant diesels will be charged extra for entering the ultra-low emmision zone in central London from 7/9/2020, and other City Councils are looking into doing the same.

That's before any extra that may get loaded onto the cost of road tax.

So basically, if you're caught driving an EU5 vehicle in 2020 you'll be treated like a mugger with a crack habit and be told to cough up for the privelage.

This is actually quite a good point - is the pre-facelift Cayenne V6d considered 'dirty' EU5? Can't say we gave a toss about all this when we bought as we wanted a petrol in the first place but initial outlay costs limited the options available in the market. If the govt start slapping extra charges on road tax and diesel fuel, it becomes more tempting to look for an equally 'dirty' (in the EU's eyes) petrol powered machine of choice as running costs go up on the diesel to meet petrol for low mileage users. Or will petrol cars also be affected proportionately? Or is this too premature to discuss and it's just sabre rattling on the EU/climate people front?

[Cobnapint]

The pre-facelift V6d and V8d's are EU5.

The face lifted V6d is EU6, but the V8 isn't - that's why it's being pulled this summer.

My guess is that the second hand market will become increasingly clogged with pre-facelift V6d's as we near 2020, although it's only central London that has any LEZ plans at the moment.

I love my V6d, and I'm 50:50 about swapping it out for another V6, partly because it's so damn good, and partly because the MY2017 Cayenne will be an unknown quantity if I'm to stick in an LOI to the dealer and get one of the first one's. However, can't see it being a lemon, can you?

[Fezzaman]

Cobnapint said:

The pre-facelift V6d and V8d's are EU5.

The face lifted V6d is EU6, but the V8 isn't - that's why it's being pulled this summer.

My guess is that the second hand market will become increasingly clogged with pre-facelift V6d's as we near 2020, although it's only central London that has any LEZ plans at the moment.

I love my V6d, and I'm 50:50 about swapping it out for another V6, partly because it's so damn good, and partly because the MY2017 Cayenne will be an unknown quantity if I'm to stick in an LOI to the dealer and get one of the first one's. However, can't see it being a lemon, can you?

Thanks, the 2nd hand buyers will then look to sniff out the V8 diesels as if they're gonna go EU5, may as well go the whole hog - much like the TDV6/TDV8 in the first gen RRS. The LEZ doesn't affect us as we don't do central London stuff, but IF other major cities introduce charging, and/or IF they top it off with another new road tax band penalising EU5 or somesuch measure, that will tick me off both in terms of what it will do to residuals and running costs.

Don't get me wrong, the car's great on a number of levels and it's not that we bought the car for residuals or running costs, but we 'justified' going for the diesel because of the lower tax/better residuals as a 'head over heart' choice rather than finding a petrol car as we don't do high mileage (petrol choices are limited anyway).

If I were you I'd keep the EU5 V6d - you've had it a while I'm guessing and take a punt on the next gen, I can't see it being a lemon either. My issue would be size, Macan is too small, current Cayenne is ideal size, but if the next gen goes into the latest RRS/X5 dimensions, it's too big for requirements/usability - perhaps the new C63 estate would be a decent compromise?