New Porsche Cayenne Diesel
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Rocky Road said:
Couple of Questions...
1. Car just approaching 3rd birthday and needing to make a decision about extended warranty - 2 years for bargain basement price of £1,690 inc Vat but plus cost of inspection check. Only do about 7.5k miles a year and be grateful for thoughts on value based on experience of others. I expect to keep car another year and maybe two.
2.22,000 miles and still same front brake pads (no warning light showing yet). I know it depends on type of driving but on average how long do they last?
Thanks for any advice/replies.
Got an extended warranty put on a few months ago, going to keep the car for at least another 2 years just wanted piece of mind.1. Car just approaching 3rd birthday and needing to make a decision about extended warranty - 2 years for bargain basement price of £1,690 inc Vat but plus cost of inspection check. Only do about 7.5k miles a year and be grateful for thoughts on value based on experience of others. I expect to keep car another year and maybe two.
2.22,000 miles and still same front brake pads (no warning light showing yet). I know it depends on type of driving but on average how long do they last?
Thanks for any advice/replies.
Just collected the car from having brakes done, covered 27.5K miles lots of town driving, got both disc & pads done
Saj
The vast majority of my driving is on the motorway so was pleased to see the front discs last around 40k. The rears are still going and I reckon they will need replacing around the 50k usage mark.
The car itself is about to hit 100k with Porsche warranty due at the start of December. I'm still being massively tempted to change the car but struggling to find an alternative. Changing it to something newer would cost to much at this point so looking at extending the warranty on.
The car itself is about to hit 100k with Porsche warranty due at the start of December. I'm still being massively tempted to change the car but struggling to find an alternative. Changing it to something newer would cost to much at this point so looking at extending the warranty on.
Fezzaman said:
edo said:
So there will be lots of views on this - some options make them more saleable, but if you want the best return/lack of loss, then you shouuld not go mad.
Our 2012 we just traded in at just over 2 years old (only 20k on the clock) and we got 86% of the optioned price we paid for the car.... THis was keeping the spec fairly lean; PCM/Heated seats/Multi-functional steering/USB/and a couple of other bits.
Our new S has 22k of extras and wont hold its value anywhere near as well as that.
Think you've done very well there to get 86% back after 2 years. Was it because you were trading in against a brand new V8S possibly combined with the 22k in extras? Which OPC offered you that?Our 2012 we just traded in at just over 2 years old (only 20k on the clock) and we got 86% of the optioned price we paid for the car.... THis was keeping the spec fairly lean; PCM/Heated seats/Multi-functional steering/USB/and a couple of other bits.
Our new S has 22k of extras and wont hold its value anywhere near as well as that.
Many thanks for replies - without wishing to tempt fate mine has also been trouble-free and so based on replies I think I will also take a gamble and go without the extended warranty.
I had a letter from dealer back in April (19,000 miles at time) advising to book car in for new pads as based on last service inspection they would soon need replacement. When I advised the warning light was not showing they said OK to wait but when warning light shows I had max of 500 miles remaining. As most of my miles is also on motorway I think they were a little premature to say the least.
I will also be interested to see the next model of the Cayenne which I am told is expected in late 2017. I rate my current Cayenne as the best car I have ever owned but hope the 3rd generation will not be any bigger than the current model. Just in case I plan to take a Macan out for a spin in the next couple of weeks - will report back.
I had a letter from dealer back in April (19,000 miles at time) advising to book car in for new pads as based on last service inspection they would soon need replacement. When I advised the warning light was not showing they said OK to wait but when warning light shows I had max of 500 miles remaining. As most of my miles is also on motorway I think they were a little premature to say the least.
I will also be interested to see the next model of the Cayenne which I am told is expected in late 2017. I rate my current Cayenne as the best car I have ever owned but hope the 3rd generation will not be any bigger than the current model. Just in case I plan to take a Macan out for a spin in the next couple of weeks - will report back.
Yes, the 500 miles recommendation seems a bit pointless, it all depends on driving environment and style. I guess they want the work, but for new pads I'd go Indy.
For me too, the Cayenne is the best car I have ever owned (I normally get bored after a couple of years, but not with this) and don't need the next Cayenne to be any bigger, the present one just fits in the garage and I'd prefer not to have to drop 'down' to a Macan, even though they look stunning.
The new one is going to have to be universally acclaimed as effing good for me to let this one go.
For me too, the Cayenne is the best car I have ever owned (I normally get bored after a couple of years, but not with this) and don't need the next Cayenne to be any bigger, the present one just fits in the garage and I'd prefer not to have to drop 'down' to a Macan, even though they look stunning.
The new one is going to have to be universally acclaimed as effing good for me to let this one go.
At the MOT they reported that my front pads were only 50/55% worn after 22,500 miles so I can expect about another 20,000 out of them which was good news.
I took a Macan for a test drive (3.0S Diesel) and I have to report it wasn’t at all as I expected. Despite reports to the contrary I still expected it to be a shrunken Cayenne but it definitely isn't.
Driving
This is the big difference - it is a totally different driving experience. Porsche have done a great job and it was a fantastic drive and, for a still relatively large vehicle you can really throw it around with confidence, without any roll and the overall performance is superb. I still love driving my Cayenne but the Macan is probably a little more fun.
Exterior
I find it hard to spot the difference from a Cayenne from the front but the rear is very different and makes it look more sporty. I am fairly neutral on whether it looks better than a Cayenne from the rear but my wife and daughter preferred ithe look of the Macan. I can’t say I am a fan of the plastic side-blades on the Macan but you can always have them painted. Overall it is, IMO, a great looking vehicle. Quite surprised that it is only 1.6 cms narrower than the Cayenne so the big difference is it being about 17 cms shorter and 8cms lower
Interior
I expected the inside to be cramped by comparison and with 17cms loss in length there is less space, especially in the rear but it is by no means cramped. I am over 6ft and sat comfortably in the rear with plenty of knee room and we fitted 3 in the rear without feeling squashed. Even with a panoramic roof the rear did not feel uncomfortably low although my head did just touch the roof when sitting in the rear seat.
The boot is still a good size and would still carry a set of golf clubs or the like. The main loss of carrying capacity is with the raked rear tailgate.
If you don’t need all the space provided by a Cayenne then I suggest you test drive a Macan – it was a blast.
I took a Macan for a test drive (3.0S Diesel) and I have to report it wasn’t at all as I expected. Despite reports to the contrary I still expected it to be a shrunken Cayenne but it definitely isn't.
Driving
This is the big difference - it is a totally different driving experience. Porsche have done a great job and it was a fantastic drive and, for a still relatively large vehicle you can really throw it around with confidence, without any roll and the overall performance is superb. I still love driving my Cayenne but the Macan is probably a little more fun.
Exterior
I find it hard to spot the difference from a Cayenne from the front but the rear is very different and makes it look more sporty. I am fairly neutral on whether it looks better than a Cayenne from the rear but my wife and daughter preferred ithe look of the Macan. I can’t say I am a fan of the plastic side-blades on the Macan but you can always have them painted. Overall it is, IMO, a great looking vehicle. Quite surprised that it is only 1.6 cms narrower than the Cayenne so the big difference is it being about 17 cms shorter and 8cms lower
Interior
I expected the inside to be cramped by comparison and with 17cms loss in length there is less space, especially in the rear but it is by no means cramped. I am over 6ft and sat comfortably in the rear with plenty of knee room and we fitted 3 in the rear without feeling squashed. Even with a panoramic roof the rear did not feel uncomfortably low although my head did just touch the roof when sitting in the rear seat.
The boot is still a good size and would still carry a set of golf clubs or the like. The main loss of carrying capacity is with the raked rear tailgate.
If you don’t need all the space provided by a Cayenne then I suggest you test drive a Macan – it was a blast.
Wilmslowboy said:
Just bought one (Jan 2012 Cayenne 3.0 diesel) wife wanted something smaller and a bit nippier (relatively speaking as her current car is a Land Rover Discovery 4 **)
Not taken delivery so I can't comment on the drive yet - however coming from Land Rover/Audi I was shocked at the the huge list of options, many of which I would have considered as std items on a luxury SUV. The used car prices were all over the place (based on spec/options) with advice not to touch a non sat nav/air suspension car....
Car listed new at £45k std, plus £13k of extras...now 3 1/2 years old, sub 20k miles, no Porsche warranty - fully landed with me should be about 60% of fully optioned up list price.
Your statement is what stops me buying anything new & premium. Why isn't a sat nav standard on a £50K+ car yet it is on a £12K nissan?Not taken delivery so I can't comment on the drive yet - however coming from Land Rover/Audi I was shocked at the the huge list of options, many of which I would have considered as std items on a luxury SUV. The used car prices were all over the place (based on spec/options) with advice not to touch a non sat nav/air suspension car....
Car listed new at £45k std, plus £13k of extras...now 3 1/2 years old, sub 20k miles, no Porsche warranty - fully landed with me should be about 60% of fully optioned up list price.
- little less power than Disco 4, lot less weight, 1.2 seconds faster to 62mph, 25 mph higher top speed, c40% better fuel economy, 2 (some would say 2.5) less seats....
Cobnapint said:
Nice resumé. How did the pdk feel of the mark in comparison with the Cayennes box, any hesitation..?
And was it on air the one you drove, ride OK?
The PDK box definitely makes for a quicker and more seamless gear change but I think the main PDK benefit comes when you use the gearshift paddles, which I did on the test drive but am unlikely to do more than once a year as an owner... normally after watching a Grand Prix!And was it on air the one you drove, ride OK?
The test car was fully loaded and had air suspension which gave a great ride. I don't have air on my current Cayenne but would go for air on a new Macan.
Of all the many options on the test vehicle I really liked the panoramic roof. I have never been into fresh air motoring so haven't ever had a sun-roof in the past but the panoramic roof was great. In the UK we have so many grey days and the extra daylight lightens up the interior of the car which I find can lift my mood. The test vehicle interior was in a light coloured pebble shade leather so if you were ordering a dark colour interior then I reckon the panoramic sunroof would be extra valuable.
I will definitely change to a Macan for my next vehicle as I don't need the carrying capacity any longer but, right now, I still absolutely love my Cayenne and won't be in a hurry to let it go.
Recommend a test drive of the Macan though.
Edited by Rocky Road on Tuesday 8th September 14:04
aceparts said:
Your statement is what stops me buying anything new & premium. Why isn't a sat nav standard on a £50K+ car yet it is on a £12K nissan?
There is a very valid reason for this, The Cayenne Diesel is 'Cheap' at £50,000 plus options or £60,000 for the Cayenne S. A Range Rover is over 50% more expensive for not a lot more car and ys you get Sat Nav.They could have added a few options to the Porsche and just made the base price £55k instead. In fact, PCM is now standard on the new 911 so they are going this way...
All in all, I think the Cayenne is a bargain. Mine arrives in 2 weeks.
Edited by Fokker on Thursday 10th September 16:57
Well the car hit 103k miles and it went for its interim service. Thankfully sailed through. Also went for the warranty extension inspection and good news there too! So have taken out another two years worth of things. Final good news was that the cost of the warranty had reduced since I last asked a few months back.
Loving the car/ownership
Only wobbles for me have been:
1). Some air con pipe cracking.
2). Windscreen wiper motor failing.
Now that I will be keeping it I will need to get my Turbo 2's refurbed and the front bumper area resprayed to get looking showroom-fresh(ish)...
Loving the car/ownership
Only wobbles for me have been:1). Some air con pipe cracking.
2). Windscreen wiper motor failing.
Now that I will be keeping it I will need to get my Turbo 2's refurbed and the front bumper area resprayed to get looking showroom-fresh(ish)...
My 12 plate is still going strong, on 47k miles and no issues so far.
Have caught the kerb (slightly) twice with the Turbo II's, but managed to repair on both occasions surprisingly easy using a small file and ever finer grades of emery cloth. They were actually easier to do than normal alloys...!
What year is your high miler..?
Have caught the kerb (slightly) twice with the Turbo II's, but managed to repair on both occasions surprisingly easy using a small file and ever finer grades of emery cloth. They were actually easier to do than normal alloys...!
What year is your high miler..?
Cobnapint said:
My 12 plate is still going strong, on 47k miles and no issues so far.
Have caught the kerb (slightly) twice with the Turbo II's, but managed to repair on both occasions surprisingly easy using a small file and ever finer grades of emery cloth. They were actually easier to do than normal alloys...!
What year is your high miler..?
I don't think I will get away with such an easy repair. I know the polished parts have chips in them and the painted parts look to be bubbling in places. I did mention this to the OPC but this is considered wear and tear.Have caught the kerb (slightly) twice with the Turbo II's, but managed to repair on both occasions surprisingly easy using a small file and ever finer grades of emery cloth. They were actually easier to do than normal alloys...!
What year is your high miler..?
It's a 2010 (958) 3.0 V6 diesel
nomank said:
Well the car hit 103k miles and it went for its interim service. Thankfully sailed through. Also went for the warranty extension inspection and good news there too! So have taken out another two years worth of things. Final good news was that the cost of the warranty had reduced since I last asked a few months back.
Loving the car/ownership Only wobbles for me have been:
1). Some air con pipe cracking.
2). Windscreen wiper motor failing.
Now that I will be keeping it I will need to get my Turbo 2's refurbed and the front bumper area resprayed to get looking showroom-fresh(ish)...
Some big miles(relatively) and great to hear it's running perfectly. Thanks for postingLoving the car/ownership
Only wobbles for me have been:1). Some air con pipe cracking.
2). Windscreen wiper motor failing.
Now that I will be keeping it I will need to get my Turbo 2's refurbed and the front bumper area resprayed to get looking showroom-fresh(ish)...
Thinking of pulling the trigger on a Cayenne Diesel S. Just wondering if Porsche are going to introduce the new PCM unit with Apple car play etc like they've just introduced on the Macan (and gen2 991) - anybody know? Also wondering about discounts, reading various replies seems to be anywhere between 5-9%. Anybody got a discount recently on a Diesel S they wouldn't mind sharing the info with me? Car will be built to order with about £20k of options. I guess if buying a car already spec'd from a showroom more likely to get a better deal than buying one to order? Thanks.....
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