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garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
APOLO1 said:
Brought my wife a Cayenne diesel last week.
I really hope you mean "I ordered my wife a Cayenne many months ago and it's just been delivered" wink

melv

4,694 posts

149 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
Has anybody tried the Cayenne Diseasal off road??

Had a chance to play with the new RR 4.4 litre Diesel on & off road last week courtesy of Land Rover -OMG and wow, even Mrs Melv was impressed.....biggrin

How do they compare with the Merc ML, the interior of which I somehow find lacking in comparison....

garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
melv said:
Has anybody tried the Cayenne Diseasal off road??

Had a chance to play with the new RR 4.4 litre Diesel on & off road last week courtesy of Land Rover -OMG and wow, even Mrs Melv was impressed.....biggrin

How do they compare with the Merc ML, the interior of which I somehow find lacking in comparison....
I'm sure the RR will be superior - the Cayenne does not even have a low ratio box. That said, any offroading I do will be minimal - mine will be my daily driver/family car.

Edited by garyhun on Tuesday 23 November 11:45

APOLO1

3,261 posts

78 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
Ordered early in Sep. To be fair the dealer parked me in to cancelled order slot. I went for a big spec with 21” turbo 2 alloys, air sus, pan roof ect, and Sports seats which are must. Came out at just over 60k,

I understand that build slots are now 6-8 months out. Not sure what the off road performance is like, It has enough to cope with Uk weather as in hill decent ect. Wish I had gone for the multifunction wheel. The 8 speed box is so good it makes the paddles obsolete.

garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
APOLO1 said:
Ordered early in Sep. To be fair the dealer parked me in to cancelled order slot. I went for a big spec with 21” turbo 2 alloys, air sus, pan roof ect, and Sports seats which are must. Came out at just over 60k,

I understand that build slots are now 6-8 months out. Not sure what the off road performance is like, It has enough to cope with Uk weather as in hill decent ect. Wish I had gone for the multifunction wheel. The 8 speed box is so good it makes the paddles obsolete.
Sports seats you say!!! Are they more comfortable than the standard, or just more supportive?

I agree that the sports wheel is not needed due to the box being so good. Seemed pointless driving it in anything other than full auto mode.
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APOLO1

3,261 posts

78 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
Are they more comfortable than the standard, or just more supportive?

Both at 300.00 over the comfort type, they are a must have, along with Pan roof, air sus, and 21" turbo2s.

Whats also intresting is MPG. The RR sport 3.0 does 22-24 thats it no more no less. Out of the box first 600 miles the Cayenne average 35.7. Thats mixed cross country thrash ect.

Edited by APOLO1 on Tuesday 23 November 16:49

garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
APOLO1 said:
Are they more comfortable than the standard, or just more supportive?

Both at 300.00 over the comfort type, they are a must have, along with Pan roof, air sus, and 21" turbo2s.

Whats also intresting ths MPG. The RR sport 3.0 does 22-24 thats it no more no less. Out of the box first 600 miles the Cayenne average 35.7. Thats mixed cross country thrash ect.
Thanks for that - impresive! Was definitely going for Air but that's given me some food for thought .... I have a few months to consider options!

melv

4,694 posts

149 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
"The RR sport 3.0 does 22-24"

Got 30mpg overall from a tankful in a RR Vogue Diseasal...... getmecoat

So back to the Cayenne.....no low ratio -assume it relies on the electronic wizardry? -I seem to remember they've dropped the diff lock too.....oh dear.... frown

911Thrasher

2,174 posts

83 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
Why buy a diesel when you can buy a petrol? I don't understand the rational:
- if you wanted economical: buy lighter car and not 4x4
- if you wanted silent: buy petrol or hybrid
- if you think they are safer in the wet: I don't think high gravity center and weight helps

Go the full way: turbo cayenne

I'm confused...please explain

garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
911Thrasher said:
Why buy a diesel when you can buy a petrol? I don't understand the rational:
- if you wanted economical: buy lighter car and not 4x4
- if you wanted silent: buy petrol or hybrid
- if you think they are safer in the wet: I don't think high gravity center and weight helps

Go the full way: turbo cayenne

I'm confused...please explain
I want a 4x4 so a car is not in the equation
Hybrid is awful unless all your driving is in town

Happy? tongue out

garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
melv said:
"The RR sport 3.0 does 22-24"

Got 30mpg overall from a tankful in a RR Vogue Diseasal...... getmecoat

So back to the Cayenne.....no low ratio -assume it relies on the electronic wizardry? -I seem to remember they've dropped the diff lock too.....oh dear.... frown
Let's be absolutely clear - the Cayenne is not really designed as a mud plugger. It's a large, relaxed family car with a superb driving position, great handling and SOME off road capabilities should you end up in a field or down a dirt track.

Kudos

2,431 posts

58 months

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garyhun said:
cayman-black said:
Kudos said:
garyhun said:
Kudos said:
garyhun said:
Kudos said:
I called in and took one for a test drive on Saturday. Fell in love with it. I have a 3.0 d X5, but this was in a different class.

Dealer told me delivery time of 12-14 weeks.

Once you start adding the toys it came in at c£55k, which is actually what the X5 cost new.
Ask the dealer to put that delivery in writing. I bet they won't. If they do then please let me know the dealer as I will use them smile
He did tell me that they had 7 (I think) out the back ready for delivery. They were waiting for 2011 to register them or something.
But if you ordered a new car today, you would have it in 12-14 weeks AND they would put that in writing? If so, name that dealer please!
I must admit we didn't really get into the semantics of the deal!
Would prefer not to name in case salesman thinks he's got a sale!
Tell Gary the dealer and including you he will be able to sell two! What have you to loose?????
Exactly!
Ok, you win. Dealer was Porsche Belfast. Saleman I was talking to is Richard Graham - quite impressed as I bought a Boxster from him about 6 years ago and he still remembered my name when I came in

Kudos

2,431 posts

58 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
Steve996 said:
Kudos said:
I called in and took one for a test drive on Saturday. Fell in love with it. I have a 3.0 d X5, but this was in a different class.

Dealer told me delivery time of 12-14 weeks.

Once you start adding the toys it came in at c£55k, which is actually what the X5 cost new.
Was a different class on some aspects or just as an overall package? Is your X5 an Msport one? I've had an old shape Cayenne and liked it a lot. We now have a twin turbo diesel X5 Msport, my only complaint about the X5 is how harsh the suspension is over bumps, otherwise I'd say the X5 is a better car than the old Cayenne, albeit I appreciate the new Cayenne is supposed to be quite a bit better than the previous model. How did it compare with the single turbo X5 for grunt? I'd be worried that the Cayennes Audi 3 litre lump would be a bit lacking compared with the twin turbo Beemer diesel.

Reason for asking all of this is that the Mrs still hankers after her old Cayenne so a new shape one may come back onto the horizon at some point in the future!

Edited by Steve996 on Monday 22 November 19:51
It was the looks - both inside and out which were the main difference. I always thought my X5 looked well (decent spec, 20" wheels etc), but when I got back into it after the Cayenne it felt like getting into a Ford. Cayenne was simply beautiful inside and is a million miles better than the old version.

Just the standard, non M Sport X5 for me, but it does have plenty of poke if needed. Definitely the Cayenne seemed to be a bit nippier.

garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Tuesday 23rd November 2010 quote quote all
kudos said:
Ok, you win. Dealer was Porsche Belfast. Saleman I was talking to is Richard Graham - quite impressed as I bought a Boxster from him about 6 years ago and he still remembered my name when I came in
When I saw you were in NI I assumed as much. Cheers!

Robbo66

2,179 posts

117 months

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Wednesday 24th November 2010 quote quote all
I've a V10 RS6 as a daily car, had a look at the Cayenne and whilst the interior looked absolutely superb, the exterior....didn't.

Better than the last model, but still massively compromised on the styling front, with a tiny boot.
And there's the image...mmmmmm

I realise it will be an appeal to RRS man with the Project Kahn't wheels and the ubiquitous private plate, but why consider this over perhaps an RS6 Avant or BMW Estate ?.

garyhun

16,011 posts

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Wednesday 24th November 2010 quote quote all
Robbo66 said:
I've a V10 RS6 as a daily car, had a look at the Cayenne and whilst the interior looked absolutely superb, the exterior....didn't.

Better than the last model, but still massively compromised on the styling front, with a tiny boot.
And there's the image...mmmmmm

I realise it will be an appeal to RRS man with the Project Kahn't wheels and the ubiquitous private plate, but why consider this over perhaps an RS6 Avant or BMW Estate ?.
For me it's the wonderful high driving position and the "good feeling" it gives you when driving. I do not need or want an estate but I want one practical car so it's either a hatchback or something a little different. For me the Cayenne fits the bill perfectly.

I test drove a RRS, ML, Q5 and X5 about 4 months ago and decided a 4x4 was not for me. Then I drove the Cayenne - it is so much different.

For the record I'd say it was fair to say that I'm far from being a "Project Kahn" man and neither do I have the ubiquitous private plate. I'm surprised that a 911 owner would be into stereotyping people so easily!

Did you actually drive the Cayenne BTW?


Edited by garyhun on Wednesday 24th November 14:11

Phooey

6,102 posts

53 months

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Wednesday 24th November 2010 quote quote all
Passing OPC Nottingham - i popped in to have a look around. Must of been 5or6 Cayenne's hanging around. One of these - a Meteor Grey 'S' had the sports exhaust (4 tail-pipes) - that option deffo needs ticking, they made the rear look awesome. £1400 option apparently. My fave though was a black diesel with black wheels (silver-rim) - lick


Robbo66

2,179 posts

117 months

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Wednesday 24th November 2010 quote quote all
garyhun said:
Robbo66 said:
I've a V10 RS6 as a daily car, had a look at the Cayenne and whilst the interior looked absolutely superb, the exterior....didn't.

Better than the last model, but still massively compromised on the styling front, with a tiny boot.
And there's the image...mmmmmm

I realise it will be an appeal to RRS man with the Project Kahn't wheels and the ubiquitous private plate, but why consider this over perhaps an RS6 Avant or BMW Estate ?.
For me it's the wonderful high driving position and the "good feeling" it gives you when driving. I do not need or want an estate but I want one practical car so it's either a hatchback or something a little different. For me the Cayenne fits the bill perfectly.

I test drove a RRS, ML, Q5 and X5 about 4 months ago and decided a 4x4 was not for me. Then I drove the Cayenne - it is so much different.

For the record I'd say it was fair to say that I'm far from being a "Project Kahn" man and neither do I have the ubiquitous private plate. I'm surprised that a 911 owner would be into stereotyping people so easily!

Did you actually drive the Cayenne BTW?


Edited by garyhun on Wednesday 24th November 14:11
Hi Gary,
Yes driven one and was very impressed. It's the image it portrays and styling, that I have an issue with. I'm not a 'vegetablist' by any means, but if I turned up in one of those to a surf comp or even a client meeting, then the ribbing I would take from all who knew me would be huge. I'm afraid it would be justified.
It is possibly, with the RRS, the most uncool car know to man.
As far as the sterotyping, just take a look at the next RRS driver....I mean come on.;)

Edited by Robbo66 on Wednesday 24th November 15:10

garyhun

16,011 posts

112 months

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Wednesday 24th November 2010 quote quote all
Phooey said:
Passing OPC Nottingham - i popped in to have a look around. Must of been 5or6 Cayenne's hanging around. One of these - a Meteor Grey 'S' had the sports exhaust (4 tail-pipes) - that option deffo needs ticking, they made the rear look awesome. £1400 option apparently. My fave though was a black diesel with black wheels (silver-rim) - lick
I'm guessing all waiting for delivery to customers!

Phooey

6,102 posts

53 months

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Wednesday 24th November 2010 quote quote all
garyhun said:
Phooey said:
Passing OPC Nottingham - i popped in to have a look around. Must of been 5or6 Cayenne's hanging around. One of these - a Meteor Grey 'S' had the sports exhaust (4 tail-pipes) - that option deffo needs ticking, they made the rear look awesome. £1400 option apparently. My fave though was a black diesel with black wheels (silver-rim) - lick
I'm guessing all waiting for delivery to customers!
The Meteor with the Sports Exhaust was being delivered today. I think rest were either demo's or customers (in the compound). They had a white car - not too keen, had a tint of cream in it. There's no doubting - Black is the colour to have, although the Meteor suited the shape - probably more so than on any other Porsche model. Silver looks a bit boring. Side-steps and roof rails look good. Leather dash - nice, but pricey, and standard dash looks good enough imo. If i was speccing one up, i think i would have the wheels painted black, with a faint silver rim.

Have you seen this - http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2284304.htm
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