New Porsche Cayenne Diesel

New Porsche Cayenne Diesel

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edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayenne/cayenne-s...

Does suggest 2.3, which surprises me, makes the performance even more impressive.

A few extras and some crap in the boot, or were you in it fatty! hehe

catfood12

1,417 posts

142 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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edo said:
http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayenne/cayenne-s...

Does suggest 2.3, which surprises me, makes the performance even more impressive.

A few extras and some crap in the boot, or were you in it fatty! hehe
There may have been the remnants of that morning's Double Sausage & Egg McMuffin left in the car, but I was in the weighbridge office taking photos. The car had two child seats in the back, half a tank of fuel, and some boxes of stuff, say 20-30KG in the boot. It does all mount up. Although now I feel a complex developing. Perhaps I should stick to single McBreaksfasts.... scratchchin

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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catfood12 said:
edo said:
http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/cayenne/cayenne-s...

Does suggest 2.3, which surprises me, makes the performance even more impressive.

A few extras and some crap in the boot, or were you in it fatty! hehe
There may have been the remnants of that morning's Double Sausage & Egg McMuffin left in the car, but I was in the weighbridge office taking photos. The car had two child seats in the back, half a tank of fuel, and some boxes of stuff, say 20-30KG in the boot. It does all mount up. Although now I feel a complex developing. Perhaps I should stick to single McBreaksfasts.... scratchchin
smile

catfood12

1,417 posts

142 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Anyway, was following this thread on Readers' cars.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


Subtle modifications to (rare) stock car to suit individual requirements, a great show of talent with the work done. I'm a proponent of the same thing. Some haters out there. Still, the OP there mentions lowering links for the air suspension. A set for my Cayenne were swiftly ordered from www.airmatic-lowering-links.co.uk for £80, and set as per the instructions (I have no relationship with this company). Standard links are 70mm long, they recommend a 5mm change to drop a reasonable amount. The kit quality is very good. All metal links, rubber boots to stop debris ingress. 10 minutes per corner to install.

Before, suspension at standard height;




Before, suspension at low setting;




After, suspension at standard height;




After, suspension at low setting;



I know we bought Cayennes and can't expect them to handle like 991s, but this has reduced body roll when pushing on, and given a more planted feel at motorway speed. I'm going to get the alignment checked to see if any difference has been made, although there's no hint of tramlining or any handling detriment appeared. Very pleased with the overall look now too.

I have for some time been toying with the idea of uprated anti-roll bars. Eibach are the only ones that seem to make an uprated item;

http://www.trackstyle.co.uk/eibach-anti-roll-bar-k...

A reasonable sum to fork out however.... I remain unsure at the moment.

Cobnapint

8,625 posts

151 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Snippet time.

Just picked mine up from it's 60k service (they loaned me a manual 718 Cayman btw - much better than expected, engine sounds OK, properly fast too)..... anyway, new Cayenne expected 'back end of 2017'......and they're going to do a coupe version..!

finfernan

6 posts

89 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Hi first post so please be gentle with me. Sorry if this has been covered before, I have tried a search and scanned lots of posts to no avail.

My question is related to a new Cayenne d and stories I've heard about high tyre wear rates. In short, is this (still) an issue or can I expect normal wear, in fact what is normal for the Cayenne?

Thanks in advance.

Paul

pete

1,587 posts

284 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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Welcome to PH!

My 2014 Cayenne V6 Diesel is still on its original 20" all-season tyres at 21,000 miles; there's at least 4mm of tread on the rears which are the lowest, so a few thousand miles more left in them yet. Our car gets used for a lot of short trips around town and a few hours of motorway every week, so it's the type of use that's kind on tyres. If I put it in sport mode and attacked every roundabout or B road like a tarmac rally, I can well imagine I'd have gone through a set in a few thousand miles of 2-tonne abuse, so the answer is probably "it depends!"

Best of luck though, we love our Cayenne. I'll only be changing it for a V8 diesel or some sort of quick hybrid when the next one comes out in 2017.

finfernan

6 posts

89 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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pete said:
Welcome to PH!

My 2014 Cayenne V6 Diesel is still on its original 20" all-season tyres at 21,000 miles; there's at least 4mm of tread on the rears which are the lowest, so a few thousand miles more left in them yet. Our car gets used for a lot of short trips around town and a few hours of motorway every week, so it's the type of use that's kind on tyres. If I put it in sport mode and attacked every roundabout or B road like a tarmac rally, I can well imagine I'd have gone through a set in a few thousand miles of 2-tonne abuse, so the answer is probably "it depends!"

Best of luck though, we love our Cayenne. I'll only be changing it for a V8 diesel or some sort of quick hybrid when the next one comes out in 2017.
Appreciate the helpful reply and the kind welcome beer

Cobnapint

8,625 posts

151 months

Monday 7th November 2016
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My original 21" Pirellis lasted 20k with mainly town use.

The Michelin Latitude Sport II's I have on at the moment have managed twice that and will probably go on to accrue 45k of mainly motorway use.

TheBMWDriver

591 posts

154 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Picked up a Cayenne today, V8D 2013 with 35k miles on the clock

Its missing bose (I only noticed after I paid for it) and 18 way seats but other than that the spec is spot on for me. Paid 44k inc 2 years Porsche warranty.

Air suspension with Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
14 way seats with memory
Panoramic roof
Full leather package
20-inch RS Spyder Design wheel
Porsche Communication Management (PCM)
Adaptive cruise control Panoramic roof system
Auxiliary heating system
Reversing camera with ParkAssist (front and rear)
Roof rails/drip rails in matt Aluminium Look finish
Porsche Entry & Drive
Metallic paint
Heated 3-spoke multifunction steering wheel
Brushed aluminium interior package
Telephone module (SAP and HFP)
Automatic tailgate Lane Change Assist (LCA)
Tyre Pressure Monitoring (TPM)
Heated windscreen
Seat heating (front)
Automatically dimming exterior and interior mirrors Outer
door-sill guards in stainless steel with model logo
Dark Blue Metallic

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Good choice!

Was just wondering what my wife's highly specified V8D was worth. Dec 14 '64, big spec with Air&PASM, 21's, Bose, Pan roof, Full leather, 14 ways and more. Only done 14k. What do we think?

TheBMWDriver

591 posts

154 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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No warranty and private sale, I would say 48 to 50k. Shame I did not see you post sooner I would have been interested. I was offered a 2013 car with 18 months warranty average spec for #41k.


edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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It has over 12 months warranty, its under 2 years old..

TheBMWDriver

591 posts

154 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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ah maybe a bit more than, low 50's would be my estimate

FlyingPanda

451 posts

90 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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finfernan said:
Hi first post so please be gentle with me. Sorry if this has been covered before, I have tried a search and scanned lots of posts to no avail.

My question is related to a new Cayenne d and stories I've heard about high tyre wear rates. In short, is this (still) an issue or can I expect normal wear, in fact what is normal for the Cayenne?

Thanks in advance.

Paul
Firstly, welcome (although I'm a newbie myself!). Secondly, I think the tyre wear is as much about the tyres fitted as the car itself. Mine came on Yokohamas and they were noisy, harsh and pretty much all gone at 15,000 miles. I replaced them with Michelin Latitude Sport 3s and the ride improved immediately, much quieter, and they have lasted over 30,000 miles which includes quite a lot of 'spirited' driving (although to be fair, they won't last a lot longer).

I also think the wet grip is better with the Michi's, but that might just be my imagination.

Hope that helps!


Edited by FlyingPanda on Tuesday 8th November 19:28

Cheib

23,215 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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TheBMWDriver said:
ah maybe a bit more than, low 50's would be my estimate
Sounds about right. Spec and colour are the big variables...sounds like the first of those you have covered! There are not many good spec cars around.

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Cheib said:
TheBMWDriver said:
ah maybe a bit more than, low 50's would be my estimate
Sounds about right. Spec and colour are the big variables...sounds like the first of those you have covered! There are not many good spec cars around.
from Porsche, nothing less than 60, cheapest car is a 14 plate at an indy for low 50s

Just musing my wife likes the new Pana, but they have got a bit lumpy esp the new V8d, which whilst looking fab is over 90 before ticking boxes....

finfernan

6 posts

89 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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FlyingPanda said:
Firstly, welcome (although I'm a newbie myself!). Secondly, I think the tyre wear is as much about the tyres fitted as the car itself. Mine came on Yokohamas and they were noisy, harsh and pretty much all gone at 15,000 miles. I replaced them with Michelin Latitude Sport 3s and the ride improved immediately, much quieter, and they have lasted over 30,000 miles which includes quite a lot of 'spirited' driving (although to be fair, they won't last a lot longer).

I also think the wet grip is better with the Michi's, but that might just be my imagination.

Hope that helps!


Edited by FlyingPanda on Tuesday 8th November 19:28
It certainly does help! And thanks for the info/welcome!

Cheib

23,215 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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edo said:
Cheib said:
TheBMWDriver said:
ah maybe a bit more than, low 50's would be my estimate
Sounds about right. Spec and colour are the big variables...sounds like the first of those you have covered! There are not many good spec cars around.
from Porsche, nothing less than 60, cheapest car is a 14 plate at an indy for low 50s

Just musing my wife likes the new Pana, but they have got a bit lumpy esp the new V8d, which whilst looking fab is over 90 before ticking boxes....
Yup you have to REALLY want the V8D Panamera....when you include the additional spec you get on the Hybrid it's about ,£15k cheaper. I was going to buy a Cayenne Hybrid ex demo but lost my bottle and that was one of the reasons...if they price the new Cayenne Hybrid as aggressively current model Hybrids will be worth feck all.

Flip side is I reckon the V8D will be best part of £70k when the new Cayenne comes out...

Taffy66

5,964 posts

102 months

Tuesday 8th November 2016
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Cheib said:
Yup you have to REALLY want the V8D Panamera....when you include the additional spec you get on the Hybrid it's about ,£15k cheaper. I was going to buy a Cayenne Hybrid ex demo but lost my bottle and that was one of the reasons...if they price the new Cayenne Hybrid as aggressively current model Hybrids will be worth feck all.

Flip side is I reckon the V8D will be best part of £70k when the new Cayenne comes out...
With regards to current Cayenne unless you can capitalise on the business tax rebates of the e-hybrid your better off getting the V8D and i've owned both,so Cheib i think you made a wise choice.In contrast with the new Panamera imv the only version which makes any financial sense to buy is the 4e hybrid even if you can't claim tax allowances,and the reason i've got one coming next spring.