Tuscan oil pressure when cold

Tuscan oil pressure when cold

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Jay964rs

Original Poster:

257 posts

195 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Please stop me getting paranoid!!!
Started my Mk1 3.6 today after a week of non use, oil pressure was high 40's.
Drove it until engine temp was over 60 degrees and oil pressure was around mid 30's at 2500 to 3000rpm.
Is this normal and ok?

Tuscan Wil

417 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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It depends on what oil you used as well. It sounds pretty normal. As quoted many times here before, check out http://www.mytuscan.co.uk/ it tells you pretty much everything you need to know about your Tuscan. Relax and enjoy the car. They are more solid than you think, just look after her and warm her up properly. Happy motoring!!

Jay964rs

Original Poster:

257 posts

195 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Thank you!!
I'm off for a drive!!

ratboiler

437 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Jay mines exactly the same as yours and ticks over when warm at 8 psi which scared me to death to start with, 2 years later it is still the same and fine as already said enjoy. Mine is 4.0l S


nrick

1,866 posts

163 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Christ I thought mine was low at 18 at idle, what RPM is that?

The sender is quite inaccurate so the main thing to look for is change, the other thing is it is screwed into a block and the depth varies car to car.

Jay964rs

Original Poster:

257 posts

195 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Thanks for the info chaps.
I'm not going to worry too much as it starts fine, idles fine, pulls well and doesn't sound any different or use any oil.

BobE

605 posts

181 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I just got round to checking the pressures on my car. I'm guessing there must be a big difference in the calibration of the measurement system and variations engine to engine. When started from cold the oil pressure on mine is around 70 psi and at 2500 rpm is around 75 psi. When it's fully warmed up at tick-over the pressure is 19 psi with around 60/65psi at 2500 rpm. The engine has done 27K and is currently using Mobil 15W40 racing oil.

ratboiler

437 posts

191 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Mine ticks over at 850 rpm @8psi
Running at 70 mph @40psi
and can never get it above 40psi at speeds above that.
2006 model 14k miles.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Edited by m4tti on Monday 11th August 17:27

Milky400

1,960 posts

178 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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94.... Seems high, mine Went down when the sensor was replaced from the original 12 year old sensor. Was leaking and reading in the 90's..

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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It's a fresh rebuild with fff biggrin



Edited by m4tti on Monday 11th August 18:17

Tuscanuwe

323 posts

195 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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94 psi should be too high, let Racing green check

Uwe

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Tuscanuwe said:
94 psi should be too high, let Racing green check

Uwe
The fff has high oil pressure, they already know it .... even average cars will have a cold start up oil pressure of 100psi.



Edited by m4tti on Monday 11th August 22:31


Edited by m4tti on Monday 11th August 22:35

BobE

605 posts

181 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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I don't doubt what is said but I can't really get my head around the logic here. As I understand it the FFF cylinder head is a direct replacement for the standard part and does away with the finger follower design. Why does that raise the oil pressure so much? Do they alter the oil pressure relief valve spring rate?

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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BobE said:
I don't doubt what is said but I can't really get my head around the logic here. As I understand it the FFF cylinder head is a direct replacement for the standard part and does away with the finger follower design. Why does that raise the oil pressure so much? Do they alter the oil pressure relief valve spring rate?
The way the oil travels through the head is completely different.. You no longer have the follower shaft for a start. Its essentially completely re-engineered.

BobE

605 posts

181 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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m4tti said:
BobE said:
I don't doubt what is said but I can't really get my head around the logic here. As I understand it the FFF cylinder head is a direct replacement for the standard part and does away with the finger follower design. Why does that raise the oil pressure so much? Do they alter the oil pressure relief valve spring rate?
The way the oil travels through the head is completely different.. You no longer have the follower shaft for a start. Its essentially completely re-engineered.
I understand that but how does it raise the oil pressure? Oil is fed to other areas of the engine as well and these are unchanged. I don't know what the setting is for the oil pressure relief valve but I would have thought it was either around or less than what is shown. It maybe counter-intuitive but I'd be slightly worried by the oil pressure going up like that as it could mean the oil flow is restricted in the head.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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BobE said:
I understand that but how does it raise the oil pressure? Oil is fed to other areas of the engine as well and these are unchanged. I don't know what the setting is for the oil pressure relief valve but I would have thought it was either around or less than what is shown. It maybe counter-intuitive but I'd be slightly worried by the oil pressure going up like that as it could mean the oil flow is restricted in the head.
In the original design (simplistically) oil just falls out of lots of different holes in the head (you have the follower shaft, the followers etc ..Obviously the pressure drop is largely in the head.

Its now being directed to where its required. Less exit points increase the pressure. Like putting your finger over the end of a hose. The Oil pressure relief valve isn't touched. The engine now runs at normal car oil pressures...

Edited by m4tti on Wednesday 13th August 14:05

Tuscanuwe

323 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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High/low oil pressure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The customer/operator should be just as concerned with high oil pressure as with low oil pressure. In fact any deviations, low or high, from "normal oil pressure" should be investigated.

Higher oil pressure means that more work has to be done to pump the oil around the engine and this loss of efficiency should be minimized. High oil pressure does not equate to good oil flow and in many cases it is an indication of the opposite.

Alteratively, lower oil pressure can mean that the oil is flowing rapidly around the engine which is a very desirable condition for minimizing wear.

Uwe

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Tuscanuwe said:
High/low oil pressure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The customer/operator should be just as concerned with high oil pressure as with low oil pressure. In fact any deviations, low or high, from "normal oil pressure" should be investigated.

Higher oil pressure means that more work has to be done to pump the oil around the engine and this loss of efficiency should be minimized. High oil pressure does not equate to good oil flow and in many cases it is an indication of the opposite.

Alteratively, lower oil pressure can mean that the oil is flowing rapidly around the engine which is a very desirable condition for minimizing wear.

Uwe
Go look up cold start up oil pressures of modern engines. Think you'll find theyre between 80 - 100 psi whistle

The hot oil pressure at idle is 30 psi. Again all inline with a modern engine.

The pump wont work any harder. It's driven off the crank, it's delivery is governed by the rpm of the crank and the viscosity of the oil.

Edited by m4tti on Wednesday 13th August 17:56