Yellow Tuscan.?
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To be fair Matt how could your self build possibly be as good as a company offering a 100k m warranty as long as the purchaser gets it serviced there?
Just out of interest are you offering a group buy on your engine rebuilds including a free 'upgraded' starter motor and 'free' upgraded injectors worth '£684?'
Just asking....
Just out of interest are you offering a group buy on your engine rebuilds including a free 'upgraded' starter motor and 'free' upgraded injectors worth '£684?'
Just asking....
£684 for injectors???
For free???
FREE???
£684????
£209 on eBay for exactly the same items....
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm?itemId=261726701510
For free???
FREE???
£684????
£209 on eBay for exactly the same items....
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm?itemId=261726701510
I do apologise as did not want to open a hornets nest with regard to varying years,mods,etc,but am genuine TVR guy who is interested in purchasing a well sorted Tuscan,the rights and wrongs of said vehicle are well documented,what I implied with the pics. Is gone to all that trouble to list vehicle could have included some more mechanical sided pictures! What looks good outside May not be so good on inside,afraid been put of the yellow one now,gonna take my time and enjoy the ongoing search,passionate bunch us Tvr people,roll on the summer,thank you for a spirited debate.
Andy_mr2sc said:
To be fair Matt how could your self build possibly be as good as a company offering a 100k m warranty as long as the purchaser gets it serviced there?
Just out of interest are you offering a group buy on your engine rebuilds including a free 'upgraded' starter motor and 'free' upgraded injectors worth '£684?'
Just asking....
How many failed slave cylinders can you get through in 100k miles, always replaced at the margin of of the obligor?Just out of interest are you offering a group buy on your engine rebuilds including a free 'upgraded' starter motor and 'free' upgraded injectors worth '£684?'
Just asking....
Just asking....
Apologies Smithyboy a couple of vinos later and I go off topic a little into a mickey take at the on going hero worship on here of certain specialists!
I agree about the advert. Unfortunately most tvrs look great on the surface as they obviously don't dent or rust (not on top anyway!) The average private garage probably doesn't appreciate this and as was said earlier the grief getting the bonnet off puts them off doing it. They are salesmen not enthusiasts! Annoyingly this means someone like yourself driving 200+ miles and within 5 minutes of looking you potentially discover it's rotten.
I agree about the advert. Unfortunately most tvrs look great on the surface as they obviously don't dent or rust (not on top anyway!) The average private garage probably doesn't appreciate this and as was said earlier the grief getting the bonnet off puts them off doing it. They are salesmen not enthusiasts! Annoyingly this means someone like yourself driving 200+ miles and within 5 minutes of looking you potentially discover it's rotten.
ukdj said:
Don't rely/pay over the odds for this marvellous piece of paper and treat it as a magic get out of jail free card, most warranties are not worth the paper they are printed on.
Do ask around about the dealer you are buying from and get some real world experience from people who have had the misfortune to test their dealer/warranty!
The name and shame policy here will prevent open responses but a PM will usually illicit all the info you require.
A very good point........ There are a few well respected "bad" dealers...Do ask around about the dealer you are buying from and get some real world experience from people who have had the misfortune to test their dealer/warranty!
The name and shame policy here will prevent open responses but a PM will usually illicit all the info you require.
ukdj said:
M4tti - not aimed at you in the slightest, was a genuine comment on warranties usually being worthless, especially from supposed well respected dealers.
Hi mate. Wasn't referring to your comment apologies for the confusion. Was referring to the comment that was made to my earlier reply by speed3 saying "get a warranted rebuild". Why would I when I've put together an engine using best of breed components, dumping any of the tvr bits which I had any doubt about, and outsourcing any thing that required a niche skill to people who are the top of their field. I had a certain target in terms of power and the off the shelf builds didn't meet that remit. The armchair expert who made the veiled comment is what makes this type of forum crap, in particular with tvr It seems the norm . They just regurgitate the little bits of info they've heard or have been fed by dealers who may have their own motives. They have no hands on experience so are the least qualified to comment, and want you to believe the engine is this holy grail racing special made of glass. It's not. In fact it's fairly agricultural, and is archaic in comparison to even the wife's tt.
It's one of the reasons I'll probably ditch my tuscan later this year and chop it in for an R8. At least on R8talk.com people who actually get stuck in are applauded.
Edited by m4tti on Wednesday 14th January 08:04
It wasn't a veiled dig, I do not know you, your skillset or experience, you are being too sensitive and presumptious. The OP was asking about his options. Very few people have the skills, time or equipment to do a nuts & bolts rebuild. If you do then hats off to you. Most buyers looking for advice gather opinions and then form their own. A commercial rather than private rebuild will come with a completely different risk profile. Whether the relaibility is proven or the warranty watertight is always going to promote debate but the commercial rebuilder, as a limited company, have a lot more to lose (as did TVR itself) by getting it wrong than an individual self-builder doing it for themselves. I've not needed a rebuild and therefore not needed to make a claim on one, I only speak from what others have told me and posted here about their chosen routes and make no comment on the relative merits, quality or goodwill of the various organisations offering them.
I wish you well with your R8 purchase, nice looking car but not having driven one I can't offer any opinion on its other merits.
I wish you well with your R8 purchase, nice looking car but not having driven one I can't offer any opinion on its other merits.
I find it hard to form a judgement on the Speed Six issues. From reading many posts it seems the bottom end of the engine can be affected by at least one bad batch of con-rods of Indian manufacture but no-one seems to know which vehicles/engines are affected. (Some seem also to question the design and materials of the crankshafts and 'good' con-rods). There is then the issue of insufficient oil flow to the exhaust cam side of the engine which then appears to have been disproved by TVR having apparently ruling out this as a problem. Then there is an issue of the valve train geometry leading to valve guide wear and even the potential to drop valves. Finally the issue of surface hardness of the cams and finger followers. If all the above were actually true then only the FFF head design and forged con-rods would give a reliable engine in the long term. I would also like to know if with a modern rebuilt engine by one of the experts do you still have to very carefull how you use the engine revs before the oil is fully up to temperature. If the latter is still the case then buying a car on the basis of such a rebuild is going to be totally dependent upon how the car was driven since the work was undertaken which could still be a risk. I'm confused....
M4tti, stop being to bloody sensitive you big girls blouse 
It's a public forum and all advice posts should be taken with a pinch of salt, everyone has an opinion and we should respect that otherwise we would all end up being members of the IS, EDL and such like.
If you don't like respecting opinions then Go buy that Audi if you want to, and become one of those "Audi" drivers.
It's a public forum and all advice posts should be taken with a pinch of salt, everyone has an opinion and we should respect that otherwise we would all end up being members of the IS, EDL and such like.
If you don't like respecting opinions then Go buy that Audi if you want to, and become one of those "Audi" drivers.
Bob in a round about way you've summed it up (minus some lower level details) hence I went the FFF route.
Mark lol...trust me I'm about the least sensitive person you'll meet. Quite rightly people can post nonsense if they want. Just trying to add clarity to an already confusing issue, to help out new comers. As for the R8 not quite ready yet.. Syvecs next.
Mark lol...trust me I'm about the least sensitive person you'll meet. Quite rightly people can post nonsense if they want. Just trying to add clarity to an already confusing issue, to help out new comers. As for the R8 not quite ready yet.. Syvecs next.
Andy_mr2sc said:
£684 for injectors???
For free???
FREE???
£684????
£209 on eBay for exactly the same items....
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm?itemId=261726701510
Buying Injectors of Ebay,???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????For free???
FREE???
£684????
£209 on eBay for exactly the same items....
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm?itemId=261726701510
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m4tti said:
Mark lol...trust me I'm about the least sensitive person you'll meet. Quite rightly people can post nonsense if they want. Just trying to add clarity to an already confusing issue, to help out new comers. As for the R8 not quite ready yet.. Syvecs next.
stay strong Mat and resist the force pulling you to the dark side... It's all plain, boring and trouble free....As good as these forums are they don't always help the plea of others and certainly don't help towards the rumours of unreliability.....
Walford said:
Buying Injectors of Ebay,???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Brand new Bosch green 440cc injectors are the same whether you buy them from eBay for £312 (stand corrected on the price. The advert was only for four) or a specialist for over twice as much..
I appreciate it is worth doing your homework on the supplier to check they are bona fide but the end result is the same except the cost.
Hey there,when researching a new car purchase I am to be honest,a bit of a sponge,books,magazines and when it comes to other peoples views and opinions,I take on board whatever and whoever has to say with equal respect and with gratitude and appreciate the trouble people go to,too contribute towards other peoples questions. I have my own opinions,obviously but like to hear the varied comments that experts and enthusiasts have to say,especially TVR people as we have the same interests,the love of the marque.thank you to all for the contributions.
Good luck with the search. My advice is just go and see some. You will pick up from each of the cars the same things that have worn/require attention and the more you see the wider your eyes are open.
I looked at about 8 cars and in the end bought one from Scotland which is the total other end of the country and its just what I wanted.
Nothing's perfect...tvrs were never perfect from the factory so certainly not now they are used! Enjoy
I looked at about 8 cars and in the end bought one from Scotland which is the total other end of the country and its just what I wanted.
Nothing's perfect...tvrs were never perfect from the factory so certainly not now they are used! Enjoy
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