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nawarne

3,090 posts

261 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Oh dear David, you seem to be chasing your tail on this! TVR's don't you just love'em!

I'd agree with Neill - in terms of priority of resolving issue.

Have you tried 'phoning the electronics chap?

I'd be tempted to buy an encoder - you'd always have a spare then, and fit it and see if the situation improves?
Nick

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Yeah Paul said it could be a fault within the ECU or encoder.

I think tonight I'll strip everything down (again), clean all the connectors of everything. Check all the fuses as I haven't even looked there. Put the drivers side door back how it was to see if I can get that to work properly again. If that works then it is most likely a dodgey encoder I think.

Is there a way of testing them? Or is it simply just replace and stop messing around?

nrick

1,866 posts

164 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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In my experience, just swap them out. You can clean them, dry them with a hair dryer and generally mess with them, sometimes they work for a while but they soon give up. The last one I just changed with a spare I had. Good idea to check all the connections and wires.

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Put the drivers side back together and it works again.

I've ordered an encoder!

nawarne

3,090 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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OK, sage words from Neill again.

Basically, it's a bit of a cr*p design. All the electrics behind the door card are not really damp protected. Therefore, it pays to put Vaseline/dialectric grease on the multipin plugs, keep the window spiral drive lubricated....and waterproof the encoder!!

Think you're on the right track now.
Nick

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Replaced the encoder and it's still the same.

I believe it may be a fault with the microswitch.

I pulled all the wiring out for both and there was a ruddy great battery attached between the live of the door solenoid and earth of the microswitch. Could this be causing an issue if the battery was flat? I presume it's for the alarm, looks like aftermarket.

nrick

1,866 posts

164 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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I have never seen that, any pictures?

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Takes the live from the solenoid and negative from The microswitch. Also there are 2 other wires that come off it and run off under the carpets somewhere.

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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It was a tracker.

No idea when it was put in but it's in the bin now and wiring removed.

Ordered a new catch and a door micro switch now so hopefully it will start working. Otherwise I'm out of options.

Does anyone know if there is a way to fully reset the system? So the windows know they're shut etc?

nrick

1,866 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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Where are you in the country?

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Cornwall :-(

That's the problem, there is no support down here. Closest is 150 miles away....!

I still can't work out why the passenger window doesn't go down in 1 cm incriments. It moves down like 4 inches a time. Could the rotary switch be at fault?

nrick

1,866 posts

164 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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I am in Gloucestershire and do travel down.

There is an electrical diagram on here somewhere. The only thing that controls the number of drops is the encoder via the controller. You swapped the controllers over, did the drivers side work then?

The encoder works on a slot or marker passing the encoder, I haven't taken it apart so I don't know. I wonder if there is a problem there, or if the signal isn't getting to the controller. Or the controller isn't recognising the pulses from the encoder. Is it always 4" or does it change?

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Fixed it tonight.

Turns out it was a loose connection inside the plug between the encoder.

Looks like I'll need a new loom or maybe do away with the plug totally...!

nrick

1,866 posts

164 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Good effort, I'd just solder in a new plug as you'll need to change the encoder at some stage, could use crimps but use some self amalgamating tape to keep it dry.

nawarne

3,090 posts

261 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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davidsc said:
Fixed it tonight.

Turns out it was a loose connection inside the plug between the encoder.

Looks like I'll need a new loom or maybe do away with the plug totally...!
Well done David...good bit of fault finding!

When I was up with Jason picking my car up after service, we were moaning about some of the rubbish 'Alarm/Tracker' installs by so-called professionals.

Good shout removing the device IMO. I think I commented regarding all the electrics in the door cavity - so worth doing preventative maintenance on them.

Nick

davidsc

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325 posts

153 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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If Paul Smith hadn't had me probing around with a multi meter measuring voltages then I wouldn't have found the loose connection.

Top guy!

I'm just glad I know what the issue is, was really starting to get ticked off with the damn thing.

Next on my list is the reverse light!

nawarne

3,090 posts

261 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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Yep, Paul's fantastic - happy to give advice over the 'phone.

...Hmm, reversing light. I'd check in order of ease:
Fuses - from end of board nearest driver's knees check all 4 fuses - mainly 7.5 amp jobbies. Just had one blow on my car...took out brake lights and reverse light

2-pin connector in boot at light fitting - Use multi-meter - car in revers, ignition ON.

Then if no success, look at reverse light switch. Need to remove centre console, gear knob and handbrake alloy finisher then lift small carpeted panel with gaiters on. This will expose rubber gaiter around gear stick - 4 off self-tappers and silicone secure the rubber gaiter to tunnel. Lifting this will allow you to peer at gear stick and attached bracket. The bracket strikes the ball switch when in reverse. The bracket and the switch can both be adjusted!!

Note that the reverse light flickering on whilst driving usually indicates a failed N/S engine mount.

Nick

art nouveau

58 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th August 2022
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Hi Guys

Wow - that could be it. When the window dropped originaly I did not notice for a day or so. Car was parked outside and it had rained. Water had entered the car through the passenger window and no doubt come had gone inside the door.

We will take a look and let you know - many thanks - and well done pistonheads, a great community.