Speed Six Engine. What happens if it goes bang?
Discussion
beano500 said:
Dai Capp said: I'll tell you what, I may have to go down the buy one and see route because they are a bit special and I'm in danger of sounding tlike all the people who p155 me off when they accuse my Griff of being unreliable...
That's the spirit - Sir, with a determination and stiff-upper-lip-attitude like that you deserve a TVR!!!
I thought so....
and if it goes pop I shall fight them on the beaches etc etc.
DC
21TVR said: andyvdg said:-
All types of engine can go bang. In fact all engines will go bang after a certain number of miles e.g. a lot!
errr! we have a volvo estate that's now done 170k miles and it's still running away a treat (famous last and all that!)
but then that is a volvo - exciting hey!
Which says nothing. As you imply, it could go bang tomorrow.
It's all perception. When I was thinking about buying a Griff - you know the one that uses ultra reliable rover V8 (before the Tuscan came out), I heard and read lots of stories of over heating, engines requiring decoking etc. which I had to consider. Now everyone thinks the V8 are more than perfect, and the speed 6 is a bag of bolts (which is most amusing when pass a rover V8 car on the track). At the end of the day some people had problems, some people didn't. There are no guarantees in life, so live it!
I don't believe it, I've been sucked into a speed 6 engine thread and I promised I wouldn't ever again.
The speed 6 engine is basically sound. A batch of dodgy parts were used early on and some engines were affected (< 20% at that time). The cars affected didn't last that many miles before they broke so most should be fixed by now. You must always be careful to warm the engine up properly because giving it some.
The design of engine is used in the Cerbera, Tuscan, Tuscan S, Tamora, T350 and soon the T400 and T440. You'd be amazed how strong it feels on the track when it's got its head of steam! Also sounds great and is very smooth from low revs (brilliant for low speed traffic work) and is very progressive right up to the red line (light).
I think TVR have done a fantastic job with this engine, and I hope they can follow on from running one for 12 hours succesfully and being placed well in class at Sebring and do well for the full 24 hour race at Le Mans.
Cheers,
Andy.
12500 miles
No rebuilds
One track day
Very happy
The speed 6 engine is basically sound. A batch of dodgy parts were used early on and some engines were affected (< 20% at that time). The cars affected didn't last that many miles before they broke so most should be fixed by now. You must always be careful to warm the engine up properly because giving it some.
The design of engine is used in the Cerbera, Tuscan, Tuscan S, Tamora, T350 and soon the T400 and T440. You'd be amazed how strong it feels on the track when it's got its head of steam! Also sounds great and is very smooth from low revs (brilliant for low speed traffic work) and is very progressive right up to the red line (light).
I think TVR have done a fantastic job with this engine, and I hope they can follow on from running one for 12 hours succesfully and being placed well in class at Sebring and do well for the full 24 hour race at Le Mans.
Cheers,
Andy.
12500 miles
No rebuilds
One track day
Very happy
andyvdg said: I don't believe it, I've been sucked into a speed 6 engine thread and I promised I wouldn't ever again.
The speed 6 engine is basically sound. A batch of dodgy parts were used early on and some engines were affected (< 20% at that time). The cars affected didn't last that many miles before they broke so most should be fixed by now. You must always be careful to warm the engine up properly because giving it some.
The design of engine is used in the Cerbera, Tuscan, Tuscan S, Tamora, T350 and soon the T400 and T440. You'd be amazed how strong it feels on the track when it's got its head of steam! Also sounds great and is very smooth from low revs (brilliant for low speed traffic work) and is very progressive right up to the red line (light).
I think TVR have done a fantastic job with this engine, and I hope they can follow on from running one for 12 hours succesfully and being placed well in class at Sebring and do well for the full 24 hour race at Le Mans.
Cheers,
Andy.
12500 miles
No rebuilds
One track day
Very happy
Andy,
You've mentioned somethings that are good to hear, ie less than 20% of cars affected in your estimation and any problems tend to show up early on.
I know of one person who had a serious problem after 16K miles but he drove his in an extremely unsympathetic way, ie loads of revs when cold and a desire to try to get to 60 in first.
I'm convinced and will be buying a Tuscan in the next couple of months and I'm looking forward to the prospect of owning one. I'm pretty sure that if I buy from a reputable source I'll be as happy with the Tuscan as I have been with my Griff's....
Cheers
DC
luca brazzi said: how much more damage do you want to do to residuals?
Steve
None. Certainly none is intended. (At the very least, out of straightforward self interest as a Tuscan owner.) My concern though was very real as are those of very many other people.
I was seeking principally with this thread to canvass views on whether warranty protection was warranted in light of the documented problems with the Speed Six. (As an aside, I have concluded that it is not.)
It seems from reading this and other threads that the real problem is beginning to be well and truly flushed out. The message consistently being posted on PH is that absent the "finger follower" concern, the engine is inherently sound. Which of course is good news for me, you and every other Tuscan/Cerbie/Tamora and T350 (existing or prospective) owner.
When I read previous threads on the topic, I was not entirely convinced and nagging doubts remained. But after reading these responses and talking at length to Fish (thanks James for your time!) I feel a lot more comfortable.
In fact, threads like this are helping to dispel what is clearly more myth than reality about the engine. Which is good news for all of us. And our residuals.
David.
>> Edited by cutmonster on Friday 21st March 16:11
luca brazzi said: how much more damage do you want to do to residuals?
I'm with DC on this one. With the objective comments of David and Andy, I for one will be adding to the continuing demand for good quality Tuscans at some point in the future. In fact the only thing keeping me back is that my current TVR is so good I don't want to, nor need to, part with it.
I welcome this forum to allow the myths to be dispelled, and am as frustrated as evryone else when someone less well informed comes along and asks questions with which we all sometimes get fed up. But I am quite happy to continue with honest views in answer to this to ensure that TVR always gets a fair hearing - equally we have to expect that a TVR is not everyone's cup of tea (although I don't know why!!!)
All TVRs are brilliant pieces of design, and I firmly believe that using them (but carefully warming up the race engines and being sympathetic generally) as regularly as possible is a good thing for them, the benefit of PR for TVR by being seen on the road, and incredibly good for my own well being because, because .... well just because
(PS you're not thinking of selling are you?
)I am a prospective Tuscan buyer and I'd rather read a load of posts about a known problem which has been rectified than not read anything at all.
That said, remember your engine is a time bomb waiting to go boom. You should all offer me your cars at stupily low prices right now. Who's got a black 'S' then?
Mark
That said, remember your engine is a time bomb waiting to go boom. You should all offer me your cars at stupily low prices right now. Who's got a black 'S' then?
Mark
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