How do I sleeve my Standard Exhaust??

How do I sleeve my Standard Exhaust??

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m0ssy

920 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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It appears my cans have already been sleeved.......

I havn't actually cut the pipe to size but last night attempted to see how tight a fit it would be by pushing the length into the can.

I went in about 1.5" and stopped dead butting up next to what appears to be stainless steel tubing. rolleyes

I guess I should have checked first but assumed it wasn't sleeved as I don't consider my car that loud and the back draft popping that excessive....

So what to do now?

Do I re-sleeve in the hope that it hasn't been done correctly in the first place?

Buy CCC cans to give me the noise im looking for?


Anyone in the Epsom area want to buy a length of SS tube???wobble

BatleyBoy

2,036 posts

222 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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m0ssy said:
It appears my cans have already been sleeved.......

I havn't actually cut the pipe to size but last night attempted to see how tight a fit it would be by pushing the length into the can.

I went in about 1.5" and stopped dead butting up next to what appears to be stainless steel tubing. rolleyes

I guess I should have checked first but assumed it wasn't sleeved as I don't consider my car that loud and the back draft popping that excessive....

So what to do now?

Do I re-sleeve in the hope that it hasn't been done correctly in the first place?

Buy CCC cans to give me the noise im looking for?


Anyone in the Epsom area want to buy a length of SS tube???wobble
Hmmm...... I guess you could try to remove the old pipe and renew, but I think you may struggle to shift the old ones. Even if you manage, I doubt you will notice much of a difference if the cans have been sleeved correctly in the first place.

Just a suggestion, but I would remove the cans and have a close inspection to see whats what.

BigJL

563 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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Go for CCCs then M0ssy... they sound great and you can get them in stainless steel if you fancy a change of look!

m0ssy

920 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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BigJL said:
Go for CCCs then M0ssy... they sound great and you can get them in stainless steel if you fancy a change of look!
Hi BigJL

Do CCCs really sound that much better???

I guess what I need to do is turn up at a meet somewhere and listen to all the alternatives.

I noticed you can get CCCs on ebay for around 230 quid plus delivery which seems ok


BigJL

563 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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I test drove 3 standard Tuscans with standard cans and then heard and drove the Tuscan S with carbon fibre CCCs... the difference was incredible. Definitely louder with a lot more pops and bangs on the overrun. This may have been partly due to the fact that it was an S - I haven't heard a standard Tuscan with CCCs but I'm sure the difference can't be far off.

Over 5000 RPM it sounds like all hell is breaking loose and on the overrun it sounds like thunder! cloud9


Whitey

2,508 posts

285 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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CCC's are slightly deeper sounding than sleeved cans. IMHO you are better off buying CCC's and keeping your original cans for trackdays.

My original cans were sleeved with mild steel and now nicely rusted in! So I have three set's of cans now, CCC's, sleeved originals(that you can hear rust rattle in when you shake them) and a spare set of original cans for a trackday, not that they would help much with de-cat pipes smile

De-catting is the way forward for noise and saving your cats and engine.

BatleyBoy

2,036 posts

222 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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Whitey said:
CCC's are slightly deeper sounding than sleeved cans. IMHO you are better off buying CCC's and keeping your original cans for trackdays.

My original cans were sleeved with mild steel and now nicely rusted in! So I have three set's of cans now, CCC's, sleeved originals(that you can hear rust rattle in when you shake them) and a spare set of original cans for a trackday, not that they would help much with de-cat pipes smile

De-catting is the way forward for noise and saving your cats and engine.
Are you suggesting that sleeving the exhaust has the potential to shag the cats and engine? I hope not!

jerbro

42 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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My originals were sleeved with mild steel (106dB tested at Combe).

It took me over 3 hours to knock the sleeves out using a length of SS tube (they were rusted at one end).

Now measured at 93dB....but exhaust now leaks between carbon fibre skin and chrome end pieces. I plan to keep these for track days and get CCC's for everyday.

Cheers!

Whitey

2,508 posts

285 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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BatleyBoy said:
Whitey said:
CCC's are slightly deeper sounding than sleeved cans. IMHO you are better off buying CCC's and keeping your original cans for trackdays.

My original cans were sleeved with mild steel and now nicely rusted in! So I have three set's of cans now, CCC's, sleeved originals(that you can hear rust rattle in when you shake them) and a spare set of original cans for a trackday, not that they would help much with de-cat pipes smile

De-catting is the way forward for noise and saving your cats and engine.
Are you suggesting that sleeving the exhaust has the potential to shag the cats and engine? I hope not!
Nope. The cats break up and bit's of the cats manage to get back into the engine. Yes that's right, hard to believe, but TVR Power will confirm it.

So, if you use de-cats, you give yourself one less worry.

da_murphster

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1,052 posts

248 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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Whitey said:
CCC's are slightly deeper sounding than sleeved cans. IMHO you are better off buying CCC's and keeping your original cans for trackdays.


I have some carbon cans (should be standard) but am interested in a de cat and map as a cheap mod (and actually improved mpg)
What db do you get on standard pipes?

Edited by da_murphster on Friday 27th June 14:25

EDZ1200

32 posts

193 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Having read this thread I decided on having a go although my car did seem to pop and bang quite a bit on over run. Firstly I had a quick look down the o/s can and could see it wasn’t sleeved so I ordered a 1meter length of stainless steel tube from eBay. Once cut into 2x 400mm lengths I knocked the o/s one down with ease then found the n/s was already done. What a difference though!!! So if there is anybody around the Blackburn area wanting to sleeve one can or like me one is already done there is a piece of pipe you can have.

harry henderson

358 posts

109 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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I realise this is a heck of a thread reserection but I have just gone and sleeved my end cans. It was so easy and what a result. It sounds so much better and feels a bit more of an occasion when I take it out now. Almost as good as my Cerb was.

I decided I had to have a go when we were in the Blackpool drive by last weekend. My standard exhaust sounded like a hair dryer compared to the Chims and some of the other Tuscans.

If anyone is on the fence about doing it I'd definitely recommend it.

porterpainter

655 posts

38 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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harry henderson said:
I realise this is a heck of a thread reserection but I have just gone and sleeved my end cans. It was so easy and what a result. It sounds so much better and feels a bit more of an occasion when I take it out now. Almost as good as my Cerb was.

I decided I had to have a go when we were in the Blackpool drive by last weekend. My standard exhaust sounded like a hair dryer compared to the Chims and some of the other Tuscans.

If anyone is on the fence about doing it I'd definitely recommend it.
We need a video to confirm the new sound smile

Snaaakeey

153 posts

73 months

porterpainter

655 posts

38 months

Wednesday 13th July 2022
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Snaaakeey said:
Nice smile

Mine at the local TVR meet last week. Not a sleeved/standard exhaust

https://youtube.com/shorts/qr8YCfyqTqY?feature=sha...

Snaaakeey

153 posts

73 months

Wednesday 13th July 2022
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Speed 6 is sure unique sound! love it