Beaten by an M3 ?

[delamars]

A chap in my office reckons he beat a Tusc in his M3 from the lights on the A4 at 02:00 this morning. Anyone from here ?

[craigalsop]

As a previous thread had it: "Maybe, but who's going to believe him"

Don't think anyone is going to admit it, do you?

[trefor]

Er ... nope. Tuscan can't have been ready or trying.

I had a head to head with a new model M3 recently from 30 mph to 'ahem' 120ish on a dual carriageway (came off a roundabout together). It was a dead heat, and he was really trying - he was 2 cars lengths ahead all the way and I could see him smokin' on the upchanges.

and I've got a 4.0L Chimaera.

[l6nex]

The tuscan drivers deffinatley not been trying, I raced a new M3 on the M8 from the roundabout at Hermiston Gate, the M3 couldn't catch me so I happily waved at him as I blasted up the dual carriageway!!

[JakeR]

nice.

[oxbow]

Kept getting bated by one of these knobs over a period of about 3 months at lights on dual carriageway, don't usually take the bate, BUT...., couple of nights ago met him at lights in his newish M3 and wanting to get home for the footy showed him my arse (rather my Tuscans'). Next night same place, same time, must of been somebody diff driving, coz he didn't rev, inch forward, look etc. I couldn't even hear his shite music.
Arrr.

>> Edited by oxbow on Friday 21st November 15:18

[TSS]

I had a spirited drive with an M3 in the summer on some dual carriageway interspersed with roundabouts. At the time my Tuscan was pinking at high RPM (cured with new ECU) so I had to change up at 5000 RPM. Even with this handicap he couldn’t keep up on the straight bits.

[S1NRR]

NOOOO WAAYYY....why am I such an expert I own the new M3 and a TUSCAN S the M3 is nothing compared to the TVR and also more unreliable to the point where my M3 goes this weekend....hate it hate it....ordered my T440R in Sectraflare silver!!!!...TVR rules OK.

[philipleslie67]

I have onwed an M3 and now own a Tuscan S and have driven a Tuscan. Catagorically no way would the M3 beat the Tuscan. They are class apart. Maybe the Tuscan was neither interested or was still running in to be bothered with this kind of battle.

[delamars]

Just checking.....
I have a Tuscan of my own and keep telling him his M3 won't be quicker. He likes to wind me up !

He has said that it was wet and traction was poor so conditions were perfect for the computers on board his German machine.

I'm guessing it would have been a load more fun inside the Tuscan even so !

[T88CAN]

At our last meet Martin Crimes aka Swordfish spoke about a little play with a M5, he had to hit all change up lights just to keep up now you could say that his car is unwell however i`ve been in convoy with Martin and his car has the same performance as mine and he doesn`t hang around the M3 is surposed to be quicker still maybe a "tuned" M5 or are they that quick

[TimW]

Could be UR02 SLO man he was on TV for them streetracers!

[ehasler]

mungo said:

Be very suprised if a normal Tuscan pulled away from a new M3 >> Edited by mungo on Friday 21st November 17:03

Why?

M3: Power - 343bhp, weight - 1500kg, 0-60 - 5.2
Standard Tuscan: Power - 350, weight - 1100 kg, 0-60 - 4.2
Tuscan S: Power - 390bhp, weight - 1100 kg, 0-60 - 3.9

On all counts, even the standard Tuscan out-guns the M3.

[whitey]

A Tuscan, standard or S in the dry in a straight line sprint will spank an M3.

Autocar's 0-100-0 in July 2003 got these figures.

TVR Tuscan S.
0-60 3.68
0-100 8.08
0-100-0 12.52

BMW M3.
0-60 5.00
0-100 12.12
0-100-0 17.04

In Autocar in July 2001 0-100-0.

TVR Tuscan.(standard)
0-60 4.39
0-100 9.15
0-100-0 14.04

BMW M3.
0-60 5
0-100 12.12
0-100-0 17.04

BMW M5
0-60 5.7
0-100 12.93
0-100-0 18.11

That settles it.

[swordfish]

From those numbers I reckon it must have been some sort of highly tuned M5 then.. It surprised the heck out of me as it was slowly pulling away from me up a dual-carriageway & it only had about a 1-2 second head start on me out of the roundabout

Couldn't possibly remember what speed I might hypothetically have reached before I decided to back off, but I'd imagine it could have been quite a way beyond the quoted stats above.. ahem

[ehasler]

mungo said:

In reality, on the road there would be little between it - Both cars would remain very close to eachother

Never driven an M3, I can't comment on how an M3 performs on the road, but I'd be very surprised if this was the case.

A couple of the guys on here have owned both types of car though, and they all agree that the Tuscan is in a different class, so I don't understand why you think they would be similar?

[19560]

I think that it's time for you to bow out gracefully Mungo. 3 or 4 seconds difference to 100mph (roughly a standing 1/4 mile) is an enormous amount. That's a lot more than edging away.

[ehasler]

mungo said:

I think if you came up against one on the road you may be suprised with just how hard you have to nail your car to stay ahead...

Ah, but stay ahead we would, and that's all that matters!

[ScoobyManchester]

EVO issue 031

M3 vs Tuscan vs 911 vs Skyline

"The TVR isn't just the quickest of the lot, it's supercar quick"

"The Tuscan simply disappears into the distance"

"The Tuscan leaves the rest for dead"

[TUS 373]

I see both sides of the 'argument' on this one, but know that under controlled conditions, the Tuscan would certainly have it. On the other hand, look on Top Gear to see how little difference there is between cars around an entire lap - with bends, braking, and staying on the tarmac. Then on public roads there is: plod, 3rd party perception, not crashing etc to take into account. I would resist taking the bait against an M3 andnot even try - I don't have anything to prove, I know how quick the Tuscan is, and don't want to go to jail as by sod's law, I'd get caught. I did race a Ferrari 355 once along with a 450 SEAC and we both gave him a good spanking. So how fast is a 355 compared to a new M3 then?