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Agem

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132 posts

48 months

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Thursday 3rd May 2012 quote quote all
I used to make the turbo bearings for Garret at Erlson enginering....what a nightmare of a place!....Victotan work house......

Mike

Agem

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132 posts

48 months

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Friday 4th May 2012 quote quote all
Its getting hot!
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/03/gm-europe-heade...

Can't see them pulling though

dm46

377 posts

27 months

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Friday 4th May 2012 quote quote all
Having driven many vauxhalls and vags I cant beleive anyone thinks Vauxhalls are better! And as for them beating bmw/merc for quality thats just insane. The only people in Bedfordshire who buy vauxhall are ex factory workers friends & family who get massive discounts upto 50% off list. Vauxhalls are painfully dull (excluding vxr) and have a definate chav image. The service from stealers is amongst the worst in the motor trade.

Edited by dm46 on Friday 4th May 08:42

aeropilot

8,665 posts

110 months

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Clivey said:
..............and a Haldex-equipped car that's able to oversteer (Insignia VXR) on demand and drive with a nice neutral balance and excellent ride quality the rest of the time, whereas all the VW / Audi Haldex stuff is so one-dimensional and uninvolving that it's not worth having over FWD.
But that was Saab's chassis engineering team working with Haldex that did that, not any from Vauxhall or Opel wink


HeatonNorris

1,649 posts

31 months

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Saturday 5th May 2012 quote quote all
I looked at Vauxhalls before ordering (yet another) VW when I last changed my car - mostly because VW know how to make quality interiors, whilst the Vauxhall interior was full of 'Matsui' grade plastic.
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Clivey

3,108 posts

87 months

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dm46 said:
Having driven many vauxhalls and vags I cant beleive anyone thinks Vauxhalls are better!
Whereas I can't believe that some fall for VW's "quality" image. Not all Vauxhalls are better than all VWs, and vice versa. As for equivalent models, it depends on which ones you're comparing. What Vauxhalls aren't is miles away from being competitive.

dm46 said:
And as for them beating bmw/merc for quality thats just insane.
You haven't owned an early 2000s Mercedes, have you? You obviously believe that a German badge and a soft-touch dashboard means that the car will outlast time itself. I own a German car and am not under any illusion - in fact, We've had more trouble free miles out of a "useless" Vectra than all of the other cars in the family put together (including BMW & Mercedes). The other point I'd like to make is that when Vauxhalls do go wrong, they're usually a lot cheaper to repair than the equivalent vorsprung durch vermarkten.

dm46 said:
The only people in Bedfordshire who buy vauxhall are ex factory workers friends & family who get massive discounts upto 50% off list. Vauxhalls are painfully dull (excluding vxr) and have a definate chav image.
Whereas what you want for excitement is a Golf SDi or Polo Bluemotion, right? rolleyes As for chavs; you see many more driving Polos and Golfs fitted with Audi wheels, DUB stickers, Halfords LED DRLs and car bras than you see in Corsas and Astras any longer.

dm46 said:
The service from stealers is amongst the worst in the motor trade.
To be honest, that depends on exactly where you go. I could give equal examples of shocking "service" from BMW, Mini, VW, Audi and Vauxhall. The difference is that the German brands give you a leather sofa and a latté in the waiting room then charge a small fortune to change a headlight bulb because they made it so difficult to access (Audi A6) or cause havoc by not reconnecting a fuel hose properly (Mini).

HeatonNorris said:
I looked at Vauxhalls before ordering (yet another) VW when I last changed my car - mostly because VW know how to make quality interiors, whilst the Vauxhall interior was full of 'Matsui' grade plastic.
rofl You wanted quality...so you bought a Passat. According to Warranty Direct, it's rated as worse than the old Vectra even though the average age of the Vetras concerned is greater. Not only that, but the Passat's dash plastics aren't exactly renowned for their solidity. JD Power is nonsense and is mostly opinion based - owners seem to be able to forgive major faults if a car has damped grab handles. The hard facts are in contrast with their "findings".

aeropilot said:
But that was Saab's chassis engineering team working with Haldex that did that, not any from Vauxhall or Opel wink
Saab? Oversteer? Now that's a culture shift! wink

We could go into the specifics of which GM engineers are responsible for what (and why shouldn't GM share the fruits of the engineers' labour? - They should do it all the more IMO), but that doesn't change my feeling that the VXR range are generally a more exciting proposition than front-biased AWD VWs. People are entitled to their own opinion of course, but reciting the same old bks about VAG cars being more solid and reliable just shows ignorance and stupidity.

Agem

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132 posts

48 months

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Saturday 5th May 2012 quote quote all
I wonder what "The Plan" is?
Even GM are selling Chevy here in the UK.....
Mike

stu harris

434 posts

124 months

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Thursday 17th May 2012 quote quote all
Agem said:
Toast!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/mar/01/vin...

There is a parts factory in Kirby that feeds Ellesmere-port, they said yeaterday they closing in April.

Mike
Appears they are not toast at all....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18098657

Stu

PumpkinSteve

2,427 posts

39 months

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Thursday 17th May 2012 quote quote all
Agem said:
I wonder what "The Plan" is?
Even GM are selling Chevy here in the UK.....
Mike
Using the word 'selling' would suggest that people are buying Chevrolets wink I don't think there's any way the plan of selling Chevrolets instead of Vauxhalls could possibly work.

V88Dicky

5,076 posts

66 months

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Thursday 17th May 2012 quote quote all
Great news today, that a British brand, albeit US owned, will continue to make cars here in the UK, and take on more employees into the bargain.

Britain clearly seems to be a highly respected place to build cars, and the demise of the Euro will only help.

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deltashad

4,848 posts

80 months

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Thursday 17th May 2012 quote quote all
dm46 said:
Having driven many vauxhalls and vags I cant beleive anyone thinks Vauxhalls are better! And as for them beating bmw/merc for quality thats just insane. The only people in Bedfordshire who buy vauxhall are ex factory workers friends & family who get massive discounts upto 50% off list. Vauxhalls are painfully dull (excluding vxr) and have a definate chav image. The service from stealers is amongst the worst in the motor trade.

Edited by dm46 on Friday 4th May 08:42
We had an Astra 'H' Twinport. The build quality was good, handled well, but I didn't like the gutless engine and the road holding was poor.
She has had Vauxhall's from the same garage for the last ten years. We were going to replace it with an Astra twintop. Unfortunately the last time it went into the dealership they tried to rip us off, they also spoke to us like dirt.
I had to go into the showroom and shout a few home truths at the manager.

We bought German.

Still receiving mail and text messages from the dealership about special offers etc. lol.


steevp

6 posts

26 months

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Friday 6th July 2012 quote quote all
I have a Passat Estate, I used to have a Vectra Estate, the Vectra was a better car in every department. I switched to VW because I fell for the hype, Girlfriends dad rabbiting on about superior build quality blah blah blah.. It's been back to the dealer more times than I'd care to recall, is uncomfortable, the dash rattles, the load space is ill conceived, the push button hand brake is a nightmare, I could go on. The Vectra it replaced had 220,000 trouble free miles on it and I truly regret the change. I would rather still be driving the Vectra with all those miles (on an 05 plate) than the new Passsat.

Don't believe the hype.

CraigyMc

8,678 posts

119 months

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Friday 6th July 2012 quote quote all
OP seems to have disappeared from this thread.

Funny, that.

StealthSteve

147 posts

38 months

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Monday 9th July 2012 quote quote all
I've just seen this posted on a club's page I admin:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-sn...
(link for page and other for anyone bored/curious) - I don't get anything out of it either.

80K miles 1.2L 8months TAX, years MOT = 3K.
I don't think that's the worst deal in the world.

Also the Insignia comments, after spending 6months driving them I can only recommend trying a 2.0+ L Deisel - see if your mind changes about handling, responsiveness and economy wink

bimsb6

4,802 posts

104 months

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Monday 9th July 2012 quote quote all
The mrs works for gm in the uk so over the years we have had many of their products including monaros ,a caddi vx and saabs the only one to let us down was a saab .

The Boy Lard

438 posts

106 months

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Thursday 12th July 2012 quote quote all
The Opel based product which faux has in the UK are a significantly better option than the Daewoo 'Chevy' Holden re-badged jobs we get down under.

Might make sense to use Opel name instead with same product.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

92 months

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Thursday 12th July 2012 quote quote all
The problem is not with the badge on the front.
The problem is with the structure, management and control of Vauxhall.
It is a fookin shambles and out of control..

Zerotonine

861 posts

57 months

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Sunday 5th August 2012 quote quote all
I had a mk2 astra. I loved that car. Then a mk3, slow horrible bag of scrap metal. I thought it could be just a lemon, so a bit further down the line I bought a Vectra B and it was the most unreliable, piss-poorly made car I have ever owned. That is why I will not buy another Vauxhall. I have driven Vauxhalls since and they are just, in my opinion, pure st. I for one will not mourn the passing.

bimsb6

4,802 posts

104 months

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Zerotonine said:
I had a mk2 astra. I loved that car. Then a mk3, slow horrible bag of scrap metal. I thought it could be just a lemon, so a bit further down the line I bought a Vectra B and it was the most unreliable, piss-poorly made car I have ever owned. That is why I will not buy another Vauxhall. I have driven Vauxhalls since and they are just, in my opinion, pure st. I for one will not mourn the passing.
So what do you know that noone else does then about vauxhall passing ?

iSore

913 posts

27 months

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Sunday 5th August 2012 quote quote all
Zerotonine said:
Then a mk3, slow horrible bag of scrap metal. I thought it could be just a lemon, so a bit further down the line I bought a Vectra B and it was the most unreliable, piss-poorly made car I have ever owned.
Tha Mark 111 Astra and Vectra B were from an era when all manufacturers got it wrong. The rubbish Mark 111 Golf, the Mark 5 Escort and the E36 BMW cardboard interior. The early Vectra B had plenty of issues, mostly resolved in the '99 facelift.
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