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bigdog3
757 posts
49 months
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ThePlanner said: Most of the posts on here are b  ks anyway Hey that statement is just superb when it comes from you... 
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Vipers
15,547 posts
97 months
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bigdog3 said: ThePlanner said: Most of the posts on here are b ks anyway Hey that statement is just superb when it comes from you... Very worrying when some members think motorways have nsl as well. 
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Egbert Nobacon
2,765 posts
112 months
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ThePlanner said: Vipers said: Wouldn't it be nice if this site had a built in spelling checker, my spelling is crap, but it doesn't matter, its the content of the post is that matters Would that be nice.. Most of the posts on here are b ks anyway Yours included.
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mybrainhurts
71,633 posts
124 months
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ThePlanner said: You could be further away from the truth about me. I have put the posts up based on my profession as an engineer that works in the transport (mainly Highway). Having spent 3 years working with accident investigation teams and on accident reconstruction modelling. I am now working as a specialist advisor to reduce accident severity on rural roads where local authorities have designed sub standard roads. What's your solution..? 50mph..?
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ThePlanner
5,101 posts
136 months
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mybrainhurts said: What's your solution..? 50mph..? No 80 or even 90 but restricted to 60 in bad weather.
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ThePlanner
5,101 posts
136 months
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Egbert Nobacon said: Yours included. Is it well that's nice
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bigdog3
757 posts
49 months
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whipround said: Appeared to be a good suggestion but upon investigation this site is dead so leaving comments would be pointless...  Watched Julie Townsend from BRAKE on BBC's Daily Politics argue vehemently against raising the 70 limit. She offered no supporting data and even Jo Coburn (the programme's presenter) commented that Julie's evidence was anecdotal. Found BRAKE's document "No to 80": http://noto80.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/noto80-1...In this document, BRAKE explain some key "truths" (their terminology) such as (embolding is mine): "...the government's proposal to increase the motorway speed limit to 80mph is inhumane and environmentally irresponsible." "...an increase in traffic speeds of just 3mph - a typical change for a 10mph rise in the limit - would be expected to increase deaths by more than 20%..." "At 80mph, a petrol car emits 14% more CO2 per kilometre than at 70mph, while diesel cars emit 25% more." This fanatical sect called BRAKE feining to be a charity, need challenging and shown for what they really are... 
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bigdog3
757 posts
49 months
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ThePlanner said: Egbert Nobacon said: Yours included. Is it well that's nice Is this another oxymoron or just gobbledegook? 
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bigdog3
757 posts
49 months
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ThePlanner said: mybrainhurts said: What's your solution..? 50mph..? No 80 or even 90 but restricted to 60 in bad weather. Hey just noticed this comment from ThePlanner - there is hope after all ...  (although I'm not convinced about the 60mph bad weather limit)
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andyps
4,698 posts
151 months
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ThePlanner said: mybrainhurts said: What's your solution..? 50mph..? No 80 or even 90 but restricted to 60 in bad weather. The trouble with a statement like this is that there doesn't appear to be much graduation - one moment the limit is 90, then it is 60 because the weather has crossed a line to bad. But what defines that line? Who determines what "bad" means? Any limit is an arbitrary number, what counts is driving to the conditions. I was told by a previous spokesman for West Yorkshire Safety Camera Partnership that anything over 30 in a built up area was dangerous but he could give no justification for 30 even when I pointed out that if we were ever to change to metric it would almost certainly become 50kph or 31mph indicating that it is just a convenient round number. At times 30, or even 20 is far too fast, but on the same road at different times in different conditions 48.6 would be fine. The same applies to motorways, 150 in the right car in certain places at certain times presents very little risk but on the sme stretch at a different time 50 could be highly dangerous. It has been suggested before that there only needs to be one motoring offence - dangerous driving, if it could reasonably be claimed to be that you should be banned, if not, it is ok. In more common language it could be classed as driving like a prat. Don't see such common sense becoming law, however!
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chrisga
949 posts
56 months
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whipround said: Oh dear lord..... Could someone with some website nouse make a no to 50 website in the same style, to fight the reduced limits that are springing up all over the country too please!
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mybrainhurts
71,633 posts
124 months
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whipround said: I said: I was driving before the introduction of the national speed limit and used to travel the length of the M1 between 100 and 120mph, with no drama whatsoever.
The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue. The Transport Research Laboratory claims that 20% of injury accidents involve fatigue.
So, what the protesters are proposing is a more dangerous environment on our roads.
You really ought to do something useful with your lives instead of meddling in things you do not understand. Awaiting moderation. I'll not hold my breath.
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bigdog3
757 posts
49 months
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Vipers said: Hello, what planet are on? Planet German Autobahn where cruising safely at 200km/h (approx 125mph) is perfectly realistic - I've done it for thousands of kilometres...  Which planet are you on?
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Vipers
15,547 posts
97 months
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bigdog3 said: The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue.. This is what I was referring to. Cruising at 200 km/h is fine.
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bigdog3
757 posts
49 months
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Vipers said: bigdog3 said: The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue.. This is what I was referring to. Cruising at 200 km/h is fine. Appreciate you attributing these comments to me, but actually they came from mybrainhurtsBoth are valid. Bunching suddenly became a problem when the 70 Limit was introduced as a temporary measure back in December 1965. Today's over-crowded and inadequate motorway network is often bunched regardless. Driving unnaturally slowly with insufficient mental stimulation leads to boredom, fatigue and accidents... 
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mybrainhurts
71,633 posts
124 months
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Yesterday I said: whipround said: I said: I was driving before the introduction of the national speed limit and used to travel the length of the M1 between 100 and 120mph, with no drama whatsoever.
The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue. The Transport Research Laboratory claims that 20% of injury accidents involve fatigue.
So, what the protesters are proposing is a more dangerous environment on our roads.
You really ought to do something useful with your lives instead of meddling in things you do not understand. Awaiting moderation. I'll not hold my breath. Can't seem to find any comments. Anyone point me in the right direction?
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bigdog3
757 posts
49 months
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mybrainhurts said: Can't seem to find any comments. Anyone point me in the right direction? There are no comments posted. Believe yours was the first but it's probably been censored... 
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mybrainhurts
71,633 posts
124 months
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Aye, bet it made them turn purple...
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fluffnik
17,396 posts
96 months
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bigdog3 said: Both are valid. Bunching suddenly became a problem when the 70 Limit was introduced as a temporary measure back in December 1965. You can observe this phenomenon for yourself by driving from Germany into the Netherlands along the unlimited A3(E35)...
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Vipers
15,547 posts
97 months
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bigdog3 said: Vipers said: bigdog3 said: The national speed limit brought with it bunching of traffic, which led to more collisions.
An unnaturally low speed limit, as the 70 limit is, has a soporific effect, creating fatigue.. This is what I was referring to. Cruising at 200 km/h is fine. Appreciate you attributing these comments to me, but actually they came from mybrainhurtsBoth are valid. Bunching suddenly became a problem when the 70 Limit was introduced as a temporary measure back in December 1965. Today's over-crowded and inadequate motorway network is often bunched regardless. Driving unnaturally slowly with insufficient mental stimulation leads to boredom, fatigue and accidents... Well didnt know that, but when you go from 70 to 50, does it happen then as well?. Wouldnt bunching be more to do with lack of basic observation and antipation by drivers. Apologies for the misquote by the way
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