RE: Police chase BMW at 140mph on M25
Discussion
Vipers said:
Interestingly German manufactured have limiters fitted to restrict their cars to 155 kph for safety reasons, although then can be overriden, so its not and cut dried unlimited speeds, they reconnend a limit of around 81 mph, apparantly, of course you can exceed it. (This is my understanding of rulet etc n Germany - I apologise if I have misinformed)
155 mph i.e. 250 kph, not 155 kph.It's basically a Bavarian's idea of "quite fast enough really".
In the unlimited section, it really is unlimited.
Expect Porsche 911 / Ferrari / Lambo / NSX / Maserati to be going
flat out at 160 - 200 mph in traffic doing maybe 100 - 130 mph.
Folks sitting at 155 mph on their governors is an everyday experience.
The German government recommendation is 81 mph, but since *average*
speed is about 95 mph and rising each year, attending to the
limit is for first timers and the clueless only.
To get an average of 95 mph, it should be plain to us all that's
there's significant amount of traffic doing 110 mph and a lot more.
The fast lane of the autobahn is not for clueless newbies.
Free roads for free people.
Germs said:
but what about the numpties/drunks/sleepy/careless drivers out there"? I think that is true even in the early hours of the morning on a motorway which in my experience is never empty and rarely even quiet of traffic.
Not just motorways!Sometimes I have to drive home from work between 4am and 6am on a mix of road types, and other drivers just assume nobody else will be on the road, and it's not unusual to see other drivers on the wrong side of the road and cutting corners, and swerving without warning to avoid wildlife. It's the most unsafe time to be on the roads in my opinion.
dcb said:
Vipers said:
Interestingly German manufactured have limiters fitted to restrict their cars to 155 kph for safety reasons, although then can be overriden, so its not and cut dried unlimited speeds, they reconnend a limit of around 81 mph, apparantly, of course you can exceed it. (This is my understanding of rulet etc n Germany - I apologise if I have misinformed)
155 mph i.e. 250 kph, not 155 kph.It's basically a Bavarian's idea of "quite fast enough really".
In the unlimited section, it really is unlimited.
Expect Porsche 911 / Ferrari / Lambo / NSX / Maserati to be going
flat out at 160 - 200 mph in traffic doing maybe 100 - 130 mph.
Folks sitting at 155 mph on their governors is an everyday experience.
The German government recommendation is 81 mph, but since *average*
speed is about 95 mph and rising each year, attending to the
limit is for first timers and the clueless only.
To get an average of 95 mph, it should be plain to us all that's
there's significant amount of traffic doing 110 mph and a lot more.
The fast lane of the autobahn is not for clueless newbies.
Free roads for free people.
At the end of the day, Germany has road rules, we have rules, break them and suffer the consequences?
155 kph, silly me, finger trouble, tks for the correction.
Vipers said:
what happens if you are caught on one of those exceeding limit, same here no doubt. Fine.
As I've said before, the Germans aren't as speed obsessed as the Brits.They have a relatively relaxed approach to speed on the autobahn.
IIRC their definition of serious speeding is 70 kmh over the limit,
where there are limits. That's 43 mph.
Serious speeding in the UK is defined as 96 mph and above, only
26 mph above what is one of the lowest European limits anyway.
The Germans know that being forced to drive slowly isn't the same
as driving carefully and the evidence backs up that opinion.
If only the Brits displayed such knowledge.
dcb said:
As I've said before, the Germans aren't as speed obsessed as the Brits.
They have a relatively relaxed approach to speed on the autobahn.
IIRC their definition of serious speeding is 70 kmh over the limit,
where there are limits. That's 43 mph.
And tha'st what the beemer driver was doing. They have a relatively relaxed approach to speed on the autobahn.
IIRC their definition of serious speeding is 70 kmh over the limit,
where there are limits. That's 43 mph.
Interesting site:- http://driving.drive-alive.co.uk/
And if he was being pursued by police cars with blue lights on, why didn't he stop, obviously an idiot of the highest order.
Edited by Vipers on Friday 13th July 23:11
Edited by Vipers on Friday 13th July 23:12
I love this section.
I'm another for the 'no harm, no foul' camp.
I've done triple figures without issue I just make sure it's safe. I mean, 110 on the A64 towards Scarborough is a walk in the park.
I found out my Corsa can hit 93 en-route to Wembley.. I wasn't too annoyed at the exec cars doing 100+ past me.. I'm far less likely to be stopped than them doing such speeds.
Speed, in moderation, is the key.
I'm another for the 'no harm, no foul' camp.
I've done triple figures without issue I just make sure it's safe. I mean, 110 on the A64 towards Scarborough is a walk in the park.
I found out my Corsa can hit 93 en-route to Wembley.. I wasn't too annoyed at the exec cars doing 100+ past me.. I'm far less likely to be stopped than them doing such speeds.
Speed, in moderation, is the key.
Edited by StealthSteve on Sunday 22 July 05:12
I've often wondered whether police pursuit vehicles ought to be fitted with driver monitoring that makes it impossible for a police driver to pursue with raised adrenalin levels or increased heart rate - having watched some of the police pursuit TV stuff it would remove the possibility of the pursuer simply being no more than a licenced version of the pursued....
Flatinfourth said:
I've often wondered whether police pursuit vehicles ought to be fitted with driver monitoring that makes it impossible for a police driver to pursue with raised adrenalin levels or increased heart rate - having watched some of the police pursuit TV stuff it would remove the possibility of the pursuer simply being no more than a licenced version of the pursued....
judging by the speed you reacted to this thread i think you should be prevented from leaving the sofa for fear of being overcome by physiological arousal!Blown2CV said:
Flatinfourth said:
I've often wondered whether police pursuit vehicles ought to be fitted with driver monitoring that makes it impossible for a police driver to pursue with raised adrenalin levels or increased heart rate - having watched some of the police pursuit TV stuff it would remove the possibility of the pursuer simply being no more than a licenced version of the pursued....
judging by the speed you reacted to this thread i think you should be prevented from leaving the sofa for fear of being overcome by physiological arousal!I know, shocking! somehow this thread popped up when I hit the what's new tab when having my lunch yesterday, very bizarre because new it now very evidently isn't exactly new!!!!!!
lbc said:
Not just motorways!
Sometimes I have to drive home from work between 4am and 6am on a mix of road types, and other drivers just assume nobody else will be on the road, and it's not unusual to see other drivers on the wrong side of the road and cutting corners, and swerving without warning to avoid wildlife. It's the most unsafe time to be on the roads in my opinion.
You make a good point you still have to be on the ball that time in the morning.Nothing special about 140mph in a B.M.W.Sometimes I have to drive home from work between 4am and 6am on a mix of road types, and other drivers just assume nobody else will be on the road, and it's not unusual to see other drivers on the wrong side of the road and cutting corners, and swerving without warning to avoid wildlife. It's the most unsafe time to be on the roads in my opinion.
Blue lights behind you and carry on driving silly billy.
rich40 said:
p_nut said:
And in Germany this would be totally legal.
Bring on EU harmonisation.
Exactly, in the UK a criminal, in Germany a law abiding citizen.Bring on EU harmonisation.
Having said that, I am in favour of higher limits on our motorways, where traffic and road conditions prevail of course.
Edited by Vipers on Sunday 30th November 10:27
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