New police powers hit the motorways

New police powers hit the motorways

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Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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What will happen is everyone that got £60 fines for minor speeding offences detected by cameras will get £100 fines, and they'll wonder when that change in legislation sneaked in.

egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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b0bbyb0y said:
People who sit in the outside lane make me and most other drivers have the hump,its about time these people had a shake up as they just sit out in the wrong lane in there own little bubble!!madfurious
If somebody is sat in the outside lane doing 70 what could the police do?

There not holding anyone else up as the legal limit is 70.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

167 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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If they are not overtaking then they are in the wrong lane, and can be done for careless driving.

e8_pack

1,384 posts

180 months

Saturday 14th September 2013
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What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.

the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.

I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.

For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

167 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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A lot of them could probably get past you if you pull in for 10 seconds, and without delaying you.

steve j

3,223 posts

227 months

Sunday 15th September 2013
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I can`t wait to see if the police use the so called new powers, that`s if any can be found to monitor the roads.

Catatafish

1,361 posts

144 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.

the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.

I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.

For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
They are probably indicating what they think you should have done in an exaggerated way, so you get the picture that you've been holding up traffic for x amount of miles/minutes/hours

In 30 seconds a great many cars could have got past you, so not really an excuse.

Lawbags

1,047 posts

127 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I wish they'd hurry up and do some enforcing of this new rule.

It's made no difference on any of the motorways I've been on so far!

cptsideways

13,535 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I have noticed MLM's are far inclined to move over with a flash than before, I still think most have no idea what they are doing & a brief "what was that for" wakes them up a bit.

M4CK 1

469 posts

126 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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These new rules are a great idea. These idiots who are sitting in L2 or L3 for that matter, on a relatively clear motorway or dual carriageway cause other drivers to get annoyed, tailgate, undertake. Just because some motorists through their own ignorance or lazy or not concentrating or tthink its their divine right to do what they want. The rule is for safety purposes, undertaking somebody in the L3 or L2 can be dangerous as you have a larger blind spot on n/s of your car and more likely to crash into that car. I've heard people say I'm doing 70 so nobody should need to overtake me. Bullsh*t you are breaking the law just like the person speeding

jaynana

72 posts

133 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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i think a bit of driver education is needed here as well.

i've met ppl who believe that driving on the outside lane is correct, as long as they're driving at the speed limit!

logic being - 'i'm already at the speed limit so what's wrong with being in the outside lane, nobody should be attempting to overtake me because that would be illegal'!!


gwm

2,390 posts

143 months

Wednesday 25th September 2013
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I agree with these rules, even if just the principles are taught and occasionally enforced - as at some level they enforce good driving etiquette that many/most have forgotten.

I spend a bit of time in Canada and they're testing regime is much longer and stricter than ours - but the standard of driving on the roads is abysmal. I actually miss British customs that when someone flashes you from behind, it's to get your attention and you'd move over - whether you agreed with their speed or not. All 2 or more lanes of highway here, and it's just normal for cars to be all over doing less than the speed limit regardless of how busy it is. And same thing, only enforced by cops that there is barely any.

spitsfire

1,035 posts

134 months

Thursday 26th September 2013
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e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.
W.H.O. said:
Road deaths per billion kilometres travelled:

USA - 8.5
UK - 3.6
So not really.

e8_pack said:
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
It's about following a set of rules, thereby making your movements predictable for other vehicles travelling around you. Those rules dictate that you stay in the inside lane unless you're overtaking another vehicle, so that's what you do. It might seem ridiculous or pointless in some situations, but the more the rules are followed the easier and faster traffic flows.

Gollum

31 posts

176 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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steve j said:
I can`t wait to see if the police use the so called new powers, that`s if any can be found to monitor the roads.
Police don't actually enforce speeding except from the back office in the vast majority of cases. Its all remotely operated by big brother who earns the treasury £100m/year in the process.

If there is an extablished rule, its just another cash cow - one that the vast majority of us won't mind I'll wager.

flyingscot68

241 posts

138 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.

the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.

I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.

For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
It's people like you that they are trying to 'educate'.
Move over, let faster moving traffic pass you then pull out to overtake when required - it's all there in the highway code, try having a read of it sometime.

probedb

824 posts

218 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.
They don't progress just fine. American drivers are, in general, crap. Their driving test is a joke.

Vipers

32,796 posts

227 months

Monday 14th October 2013
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So your in L2 doing say 60, leaving a safe gap, clown in L1 decides to pull out to pass car in L1, suddenly he has reduced your safe gap, at this time plod notices you, tailgating £100 thank you.

I think this idea is fundamentally flawed, unless of course they have to video you for a period of time.

MLM's would of course be easier to spot.

On the plus side I only use motorways once a year. biggrin



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MadMark981

1,754 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2013
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Vipers said:
So your in L2 doing say 60, leaving a safe gap, clown in L1 decides to pull out to pass car in L1, suddenly he has reduced your safe gap, at this time plod notices you, tailgating £100 thank you.

I think this idea is fundamentally flawed, unless of course they have to video you for a period of time.

MLM's would of course be easier to spot.

On the plus side I only use motorways once a year. biggrin



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Police cars have video to refer back to!

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

178 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2013
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Hardly any traffic police around 29% decline since 2013, I hardly see any.


They don't seem to bother with people smoking in works vehicles see it every day. Every muppet in an a5 seems to be unable to afford or use installed Bluetooth and drive on their phones.

Wouldn't worry the only ones I see seem to be looking for people speeding by hiding in camera vans by signs and bushes or on bushes on a motorway gantry.

I doubt there will be a massive rise its one of those laws I really don't think they have time to bother with.

longfellow

551 posts

142 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2013
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I'm fairly confident that this won't make a blind bit of difference to those muppets that sit in L2 & L3 without a care in the world.

It's a mental subconscious decision made on the basis of safety.
People feel boxed-in in L1 and feel far safer in L2 as they can move to their left or right if something was to happen up ahead.

If only people would abide by the Highway Code, life would be far less stressful and we could actually reach our destinations on time.