New police powers hit the motorways
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b0bbyb0y said:
People who sit in the outside lane make me and most other drivers have the hump,its about time these people had a shake up as they just sit out in the wrong lane in there own little bubble!!
If somebody is sat in the outside lane doing 70 what could the police do?There not holding anyone else up as the legal limit is 70.
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.
the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.
I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.
I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.
the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.
I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
They are probably indicating what they think you should have done in an exaggerated way, so you get the picture that you've been holding up traffic for x amount of miles/minutes/hoursthe inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.
I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
In 30 seconds a great many cars could have got past you, so not really an excuse.
These new rules are a great idea. These idiots who are sitting in L2 or L3 for that matter, on a relatively clear motorway or dual carriageway cause other drivers to get annoyed, tailgate, undertake. Just because some motorists through their own ignorance or lazy or not concentrating or tthink its their divine right to do what they want. The rule is for safety purposes, undertaking somebody in the L3 or L2 can be dangerous as you have a larger blind spot on n/s of your car and more likely to crash into that car. I've heard people say I'm doing 70 so nobody should need to overtake me. Bullsh*t you are breaking the law just like the person speeding
i think a bit of driver education is needed here as well.
i've met ppl who believe that driving on the outside lane is correct, as long as they're driving at the speed limit!
logic being - 'i'm already at the speed limit so what's wrong with being in the outside lane, nobody should be attempting to overtake me because that would be illegal'!!
i've met ppl who believe that driving on the outside lane is correct, as long as they're driving at the speed limit!
logic being - 'i'm already at the speed limit so what's wrong with being in the outside lane, nobody should be attempting to overtake me because that would be illegal'!!
I agree with these rules, even if just the principles are taught and occasionally enforced - as at some level they enforce good driving etiquette that many/most have forgotten.
I spend a bit of time in Canada and they're testing regime is much longer and stricter than ours - but the standard of driving on the roads is abysmal. I actually miss British customs that when someone flashes you from behind, it's to get your attention and you'd move over - whether you agreed with their speed or not. All 2 or more lanes of highway here, and it's just normal for cars to be all over doing less than the speed limit regardless of how busy it is. And same thing, only enforced by cops that there is barely any.
I spend a bit of time in Canada and they're testing regime is much longer and stricter than ours - but the standard of driving on the roads is abysmal. I actually miss British customs that when someone flashes you from behind, it's to get your attention and you'd move over - whether you agreed with their speed or not. All 2 or more lanes of highway here, and it's just normal for cars to be all over doing less than the speed limit regardless of how busy it is. And same thing, only enforced by cops that there is barely any.
e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.
W.H.O. said:
Road deaths per billion kilometres travelled:
USA - 8.5
UK - 3.6
So not really. USA - 8.5
UK - 3.6
e8_pack said:
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
It's about following a set of rules, thereby making your movements predictable for other vehicles travelling around you. Those rules dictate that you stay in the inside lane unless you're overtaking another vehicle, so that's what you do. It might seem ridiculous or pointless in some situations, but the more the rules are followed the easier and faster traffic flows.steve j said:
I can`t wait to see if the police use the so called new powers, that`s if any can be found to monitor the roads.
Police don't actually enforce speeding except from the back office in the vast majority of cases. Its all remotely operated by big brother who earns the treasury £100m/year in the process.If there is an extablished rule, its just another cash cow - one that the vast majority of us won't mind I'll wager.
e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.
the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.
I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
It's people like you that they are trying to 'educate'.the inside lane on the m1 and many other motorways is so heavily rutted you can't drive down it anyway without weaving in and out of said ruts.
I always move over for traffic and I look way down the road and my mirrors to gauge the traffic and position myself on the motorway accordingly.
For instance, I've had people sit behind me on the middle lane flashing when i'm coming upto some Lorries on a clear motorway, no point diving inside for 30 seconds to move back out again. I've watched said idiots weaving across the motorway as if there's some kind of magnetic attraction to the inside lane and its ridiculous. I'm all for moving to the left when appropriate but at the expense of excessive lane weaving i'm not. If I get past the Lorries and I can see a decent space to travel in on the inside lane then I'll move over but some idiots will dive in for 10 secs then move out again; what is the point in that!
Move over, let faster moving traffic pass you then pull out to overtake when required - it's all there in the highway code, try having a read of it sometime.
e8_pack said:
What I don't understand its why you all feel the need to have police enforcing minor rules like these. They don't in the states and things seem to progress fine on the freeway. I think things are fine as they are.
They don't progress just fine. American drivers are, in general, crap. Their driving test is a joke.So your in L2 doing say 60, leaving a safe gap, clown in L1 decides to pull out to pass car in L1, suddenly he has reduced your safe gap, at this time plod notices you, tailgating £100 thank you.
I think this idea is fundamentally flawed, unless of course they have to video you for a period of time.
MLM's would of course be easier to spot.
On the plus side I only use motorways once a year.
I think this idea is fundamentally flawed, unless of course they have to video you for a period of time.
MLM's would of course be easier to spot.
On the plus side I only use motorways once a year.
Vipers said:
So your in L2 doing say 60, leaving a safe gap, clown in L1 decides to pull out to pass car in L1, suddenly he has reduced your safe gap, at this time plod notices you, tailgating £100 thank you.
I think this idea is fundamentally flawed, unless of course they have to video you for a period of time.
MLM's would of course be easier to spot.
On the plus side I only use motorways once a year.
Police cars have video to refer back to! I think this idea is fundamentally flawed, unless of course they have to video you for a period of time.
MLM's would of course be easier to spot.
On the plus side I only use motorways once a year.
Hardly any traffic police around 29% decline since 2013, I hardly see any.
They don't seem to bother with people smoking in works vehicles see it every day. Every muppet in an a5 seems to be unable to afford or use installed Bluetooth and drive on their phones.
Wouldn't worry the only ones I see seem to be looking for people speeding by hiding in camera vans by signs and bushes or on bushes on a motorway gantry.
I doubt there will be a massive rise its one of those laws I really don't think they have time to bother with.
They don't seem to bother with people smoking in works vehicles see it every day. Every muppet in an a5 seems to be unable to afford or use installed Bluetooth and drive on their phones.
Wouldn't worry the only ones I see seem to be looking for people speeding by hiding in camera vans by signs and bushes or on bushes on a motorway gantry.
I doubt there will be a massive rise its one of those laws I really don't think they have time to bother with.
I'm fairly confident that this won't make a blind bit of difference to those muppets that sit in L2 & L3 without a care in the world.
It's a mental subconscious decision made on the basis of safety.
People feel boxed-in in L1 and feel far safer in L2 as they can move to their left or right if something was to happen up ahead.
If only people would abide by the Highway Code, life would be far less stressful and we could actually reach our destinations on time.
It's a mental subconscious decision made on the basis of safety.
People feel boxed-in in L1 and feel far safer in L2 as they can move to their left or right if something was to happen up ahead.
If only people would abide by the Highway Code, life would be far less stressful and we could actually reach our destinations on time.
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