Paul Bailey's 918 Spyder involved in crash at motor show
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Very sad news to all.
Reminds me of the koenigsegg crash a few years ago.
Spectators shouldn't really be set up in the line of chicanes and high chances of "offs". Also if barriers are in place they need to b ae to stand up to the job ffs
Regardless we'll all have opinions, what's happened has happened.
Thoughts go out to all involved
Reminds me of the koenigsegg crash a few years ago.
Spectators shouldn't really be set up in the line of chicanes and high chances of "offs". Also if barriers are in place they need to b ae to stand up to the job ffs
Regardless we'll all have opinions, what's happened has happened.
Thoughts go out to all involved
Esceptico said:
Pommygranite said:
If no one else was driving and the car had no mechanical faults there can be no other determination but that it was his fault.
I'm sure he's lovely guy and one of us with an amazing collection but he seems to have simply been going too fast and lost control and blame lay with him. Very sad for all those involved.
I think that is too simplistic. Drivers make mistakes. The organisers of such events need to anticipate the consequences of the most likely mistakes and try to ensure that the public are protected. Having only briefly looked at the video it seems that thr plastic barriers were to make a course and presumably to keep the speed down. Forcing the driver to drive around an obstacle near the grass does not seem that sensible. Nor does having the car travelling at high speed so close to the crowd - at least without some proper barriers (why didn't they have concrete barriers to protect the crowd?) Clearly the organisers did not plan for this to happen but I'm not sure they did enough planning to make sure it didn't happen either. I'm sure he's lovely guy and one of us with an amazing collection but he seems to have simply been going too fast and lost control and blame lay with him. Very sad for all those involved.
One point to be established is whether Mr Bailey had switched off traction and stability controls (and whether that had been discussed with the organisers).
Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 5th October 07:12
Schermerhorn said:
I have a 6 year old daughter myself and the thought of losing her....
Bailey has always struck me as the bell-end type, someone who loves being in the limelight and will do anything to stay there.
Regardless of whoss fault it was, he shouldnt have been driving in that manner with virtually zero safety measures in place.
Shame on him and the d1cks who allowed it to happen and organised it.
As for Bailey, I hope he well and truly effs off now, smug prick.
Jealous much?Bailey has always struck me as the bell-end type, someone who loves being in the limelight and will do anything to stay there.
Regardless of whoss fault it was, he shouldnt have been driving in that manner with virtually zero safety measures in place.
Shame on him and the d1cks who allowed it to happen and organised it.
As for Bailey, I hope he well and truly effs off now, smug prick.
Jealous that he has a collection of hypercars? Not really, my line of work gets me access to all types of exotica so I see cars like this regularly, so why would I be jealous of what someone else has?
No, his 'look at me' smugness and poor driving has injured dozens of people and reports are that a 6 year old girl has died as a result of it.
PS....welcome to the forum. Your first post. I am guessing you are part of the Paul Bailey fanclub?
No, his 'look at me' smugness and poor driving has injured dozens of people and reports are that a 6 year old girl has died as a result of it.
PS....welcome to the forum. Your first post. I am guessing you are part of the Paul Bailey fanclub?
Pretty harsh comments imo considering he was there for a charity event. Yes, he lost control of the car and the subsequence of that is pretty serious this time, but the organisers also have to take some responsibility too - there's no way spectators should have been standing there in the first place.
Schermerhorn said:
No, his 'look at me' smugness
Do you know him personally? I assume you do as you're making very personal remarks about the bloke, based on what?From what I understand he does an awful lot for charity including giving passenger rides in his own cars. He's clearly earnt his money through hard work and now gives back, fair play to him for that.
Accidents do happen and thoughts go out to all involved. Future events need to have a good hard look at lessons that can be learned from yesterday's incident, caused IMO by poor event planning and driver error.
Schermerhorn said:
Jealous that he has a collection of hypercars? Not really, my line of work gets me access to all types of exotica so I see cars like this regularly, so why would I be jealous of what someone else has?
No, his 'look at me' smugness and poor driving has injured dozens of people and reports are that a 6 year old girl has died as a result of it.
Not correct, but still in critical condition, along with 4 others.No, his 'look at me' smugness and poor driving has injured dozens of people and reports are that a 6 year old girl has died as a result of it.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20151005...
topless360 said:
Do you know him personally? I assume you do as you're making very personal remarks about the bloke, based on what?
From what I understand he does an awful lot for charity including giving passenger rides in his own cars. He's clearly earnt his money through hard work and now gives back, fair play to him for that.
Accidents do happen and thoughts go out to all involved. Future events need to have a good hard look at lessons that can be learned from yesterday's incident, caused IMO by poor event planning and driver error.
I don't know him so not going to judge him. But giving passenger rides in your supercar is not really charity. Yes it might raise money but it is partly if not wholly about showing off / having an excuse to take out your supercar. Volunteering at your local Oxfam shop or helping at a soup kitchen are rather more worthy of praise. That isn't having a go at Bailey - I just think that it is also not something to praise him with.From what I understand he does an awful lot for charity including giving passenger rides in his own cars. He's clearly earnt his money through hard work and now gives back, fair play to him for that.
Accidents do happen and thoughts go out to all involved. Future events need to have a good hard look at lessons that can be learned from yesterday's incident, caused IMO by poor event planning and driver error.
Although the papers haven't picked up on it yet, I would be surprised if there were not forthcoming articles about the "safety" of the 918 just like the slew of articles about the safety or not of the a Carerra GT following the death of Paul Walker. No doubt the ignorant and the car haters will use this crash as another excuse to bash super cars in general.
Schermerhorn said:
I have a 6 year old daughter myself and the thought of losing her....
Bailey has always struck me as the bell-end type, someone who loves being in the limelight and will do anything to stay there.
Regardless of whoss fault it was, he shouldnt have been driving in that manner with virtually zero safety measures in place.
Shame on him and the d1cks who allowed it to happen and organised it.
As for Bailey, I hope he well and truly effs off now, smug prick.
Couldn't agree less.Bailey has always struck me as the bell-end type, someone who loves being in the limelight and will do anything to stay there.
Regardless of whoss fault it was, he shouldnt have been driving in that manner with virtually zero safety measures in place.
Shame on him and the d1cks who allowed it to happen and organised it.
As for Bailey, I hope he well and truly effs off now, smug prick.
Awful news.
If you watch the video of one of the hot laps that he gave filmed by an earlier passenger you can see that he was traveling a warp speed, when he dropped it on the grass he would have been well into a three figure speed and with minimal run off it was an accident waiting to happen. The spectators were simply to close to the action, you wouldn't be able to get that close to an F1 car so why the exception here?
I don't know Paul nor have I ever met him therefore casting an opinion on him as an individual seems pretty daft in my opinion. From what I can see he was enjoying his car and making some money for charity in the process, unfortunately he ran out of talent which has resulted in some serious injuries. I hope for the love of god the reports coming from Malta this morning that the people who were critically injured are improving in condition and nobody looses their life from this accident.
I don't know Paul nor have I ever met him therefore casting an opinion on him as an individual seems pretty daft in my opinion. From what I can see he was enjoying his car and making some money for charity in the process, unfortunately he ran out of talent which has resulted in some serious injuries. I hope for the love of god the reports coming from Malta this morning that the people who were critically injured are improving in condition and nobody looses their life from this accident.
Terrible tragedy. Hope everyones okay especially the little 6 year old girl. Time will tell but on the face of it driver error is the cause of the accident - my heart goes out to the little girl and her family plus all the other spectators who are injured.
The driver was driving far too fast near spectators who admittedly had little or no crash protection but this doesn't absolve the driver in any way in my view. I wish all those injured a swift and speedy recovery.
The driver was driving far too fast near spectators who admittedly had little or no crash protection but this doesn't absolve the driver in any way in my view. I wish all those injured a swift and speedy recovery.
I place all blame on the organisers, a thin fence is not sufficient protection when 200mph supercars are being driven metres away by Amateur drivers, or even professional drivers, things go wrong and accidents do happen, be it human error or mechanical failure. How awful for the people injured and their families.
Schermerhorn said:
Bailey has always struck me as the bell-end type, someone who loves being in the limelight and will do anything to stay there.
Regardless of whoss fault it was, he shouldnt have been driving in that manner with virtually zero safety measures in place.
Shame on him and the d1cks who allowed it to happen and organised it.
As for Bailey, I hope he well and truly effs off now, smug prick.
That's a very simplistic view to take on someone who (I assume) you've never met.Regardless of whoss fault it was, he shouldnt have been driving in that manner with virtually zero safety measures in place.
Shame on him and the d1cks who allowed it to happen and organised it.
As for Bailey, I hope he well and truly effs off now, smug prick.
I have no opinion at all on Mr Bailey - I think until it's investigated what caused this accident, one cannot cast "Shame on him".
On a seperate note, whoever wrote this Mail article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259754/Tw...
Is a prick.
Daily Fail said:
Mr and Mrs Bailey, whose home in Rutland is believed to be worth more than £1million, made their fortune when they sold the communications company
Schermerhorn said:
As for Bailey, I hope he well and truly effs off now, smug prick.
I struggle to understand why you'd want someone who puts so much of their own time and sweat into charity to eff off. Whether he's a smug prick or not, at least he's trying to do his bit.As with everyone else, I hope the news about the child making a recovery is true.
Yet another example of "watch this" in front of an audience (or camera). Money and BHP far exceeding talent and judgement. Always a recipe for disaster, as sadly displayed in hundreds of YouTube clips these days. Yes the track offered crap safety conditions, so drive to those conditions.
As for the innocent little girl. Heatbreaking.
As for the innocent little girl. Heatbreaking.
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