Paul Bailey's 918 Spyder involved in crash at motor show

[rich12]

thatsprettyshady said:

With respect, this isn't in the slightest bit true.

eta, according to this list :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&a...

Paul Bailey is a bronze driver, defined as:

https://www.fia.com/file/115782/download

"A bronze driver is defined as an amateur driver who meets at least one of the following criteria:

any driver who was over 30 years old when his/her first licence was issued, and who has little or no single-seater experience;
any driver over 30, previously categorised as Silver, but with no significant results (titles, pole positions or race wins);
any driver under 30 years old with a licence issued for the first time during the year of his first categorisation."

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Thursday 23 January 21:09

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Thursday 23 January 21:10

That's fine, I'm not here to fight Paul's corner, I was simply trying to explain that he is classed as a professional driver and the links you've posted are not accurate.

[thatsprettyshady]

rich12 said:

thatsprettyshady said:

With respect, this isn't in the slightest bit true.

eta, according to this list :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&a...

Paul Bailey is a bronze driver, defined as:

https://www.fia.com/file/115782/download

"A bronze driver is defined as an amateur driver who meets at least one of the following criteria:

any driver who was over 30 years old when his/her first licence was issued, and who has little or no single-seater experience;
any driver over 30, previously categorised as Silver, but with no significant results (titles, pole positions or race wins);
any driver under 30 years old with a licence issued for the first time during the year of his first categorisation."

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Thursday 23 January 21:09

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Thursday 23 January 21:10

That's fine, I'm not here to fight Paul's corner, I was simply trying to explain that he is classed as a professional driver and the links you've posted are not accurate.

Ah, so you've been able to find the 2019/2020 FIA driver ratings then or found the racing team that employs him?

Or did you mean professional driver in the same way that my Uber driver is a professional driver?

[guywilko]

The Race mode info was based on the ECU analysis from Porsche engineers who presented the info to the Maltese court in 2018.

Rich I'm not going to justify my motives or actions despite your keenness.

In my mind the kernel of the cause of this crash is arrogance/hubris/showing off. If this was some young lad who was insured on his mum's merc, turned off stability control and lost control on the high street ploughing into 18 people, I think the tone of comments defending him would be different.

[sisu]

Yes but considering all of the real criminal activity in the world they prosecuted the bloke who set up the portable toilets at the event.

This wasn't fking taggart

[silentbrown]

All appears to be still ongoing.

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/magistrate-...

He's not a "professional" driver by any common definition of the term. That doesn't mean he's not experienced and competent. He could well be a better driver than many real "professional" race drivers.

[Chrisgr31]

Having read the thread from the beginning the predominant views were that the driver had lost control and that the safety precautions at the circuit were insufficient, which is what the Maltese report finally concluded.

If the definition of a professional race driver is one who is paid to race then it would appear Paul Bailey would be unlikely to qualify as he has no requirement to be paid!

I suspect a professional driver could have made a mistake at the event with the same consequences due to the lack of safety barriers etc.

Reality of course is that neither PB nor the Organisers wanted the accident to happen, nor did they believe it would, however no doubt for insurance purposes someone has to be held responsible.

The lessons have presumably already be learnt.