Speed awareness courses could invalidate your insurance

Speed awareness courses could invalidate your insurance

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Amy.B

Original Poster:

30 posts

103 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Anyone who's took the speed awareness course, you might need to take a further look into it. http://bit.ly/1QuG96S

Basically if you haven't told your insurer about the course, it results in insurers cancelling your insurance cover!

nitrodave

1,262 posts

138 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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how are you meant to tell them online when they only ask about claims and convictions? there isn't even an opportunity to disclose that.

Nonsense story

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

154 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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OP, what is your affiliation with carkeys.co.uk?

gred

450 posts

169 months

Friday 13th November 2015
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Recently spoke to insurers and that was part of their speil - have you any accidents, convictions or awareness courses?
And no, touch wood... thanks for asking

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

KungFuPanda

4,332 posts

170 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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There's no way of them being able to check whether you've been on one or not.

The original Nick the Greek

366 posts

100 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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When you enter into a contract of insurance, you undertake to advise the insurer of any change in your circumstances.

If you don't tell them, they have the right to withhold any payment on claim.


Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Wha...? I thought I was the original Nik the Greek confused

I told my insurers when I had a speed awareness course. They weren't bothered

The original Nick the Greek

366 posts

100 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Nik da Greek said:
Wha...? I thought I was the original Nik the Greek confused

I told my insurers when I had a speed awareness course. They weren't bothered
No.

I'm afraid not. I get lists of imposters pretending to be me rolleyes


biglaugh

daemon

35,821 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Amy.B said:
Anyone who's took the speed awareness course, you might need to take a further look into it. http://bit.ly/1QuG96S

Basically if you haven't told your insurer about the course, it results in insurers cancelling your insurance cover!
Thats a crock of st

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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The original Nick the Greek said:
No.

I'm afraid not. I get lists of imposters pretending to be me rolleyes


biglaugh
lol.

Damn, identity crisis! Gonna have to wake the kids up and ask if I'm me now

The original Nick the Greek

366 posts

100 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Nik da Greek said:
lol.

Damn, identity crisis! Gonna have to wake the kids up and ask if I'm me now
That could be nasty.

You may find out that you are me.

And you're in a phychiatic hospitaleek

Max Cat 300

3 posts

158 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I WAS with Admiral multi car, that was until they asked if I'd had any speed awareness courses when I contacted them to get my son on my insurance to drive my Caterham. After sorting out insurance for my son, which was very reasonable, the kind sales person informed me that my overall policy would be increased by £250 on a £650 policy because I had attended a speed awareness course! According to the nice lady (Admiral Insurance) if you've been on a speed awareness course you are more likely to speed than someone who hasn't been on a course! confused I immediately cancelled all my policies with Admiral and renewed with other insurers and found that I actually saved money on my original policy. Not one other insurer, as far as I'm aware, asks the question on line or in person when spoken to on the telephone, if you've been on a course. And as far as I am concerned my circumstances haven't changed, I've NOT been reported for, or convicted of an offence and I DO NOT have any points on my licence. frown

radical78

398 posts

144 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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when you go on a course the police tell you that you do not need to tell youre insurance company

The original Nick the Greek

366 posts

100 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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radical78 said:
when you go on a course the police tell you that you do not need to tell youre insurance company
Then they are wrong. End of.

A contract of insurance is one of "good faith". You are required to tell your insurer anything that changes the risk you pose to them.

If you have attended a speed awareness course, you have done this as a result of being caught speeding, in lieu of taking the points.

If you don't tell your insurer, and you claim, they are totally within their right to decline your claim.

T0M

707 posts

177 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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The original Nick the Greek said:
Then they are wrong. End of.

A contract of insurance is one of "good faith". You are required to tell your insurer anything that changes the risk you pose to them.

If you have attended a speed awareness course, you have done this as a result of being caught speeding, in lieu of taking the points.

If you don't tell your insurer, and you claim, they are totally within their right to decline your claim.
How are we supposed to determine what our insurance provider deems or does not deem to be an increase in risk? My tyres are nearing the wear bars - this means my braking distance is longer than if I had new tyres fitted, would they deem me to be a higher risk too? There should be a regulated set of standards that apply to motor policies which everyone can agree to in advance, not after the fact and not with wildly varying loading to policy's. What a joke this industry is.

Nobaccymaccy

572 posts

202 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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Just been on one and guys running the course said Admiral were the only insurers they knew of who asked the question and would increase your premium ( heated debate ensued about the logic of that ! ) added caveat that if asked you had to declare it .
so in summary- watch out for the cameras in warwick bridge

Hackney

6,841 posts

208 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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T0M said:
How are we supposed to determine what our insurance provider deems or does not deem to be an increase in risk? My tyres are nearing the wear bars - this means my braking distance is longer than if I had new tyres fitted, would they deem me to be a higher risk too? There should be a regulated set of standards that apply to motor policies which everyone can agree to in advance, not after the fact and not with wildly varying loading to policy's. What a joke this industry is.
Work on the assumption that everything will bring an increase in risk. You won't go far wrong.

Jacobyte

4,723 posts

242 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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The original Nick the Greek said:
...If you have attended a speed awareness course, you have done this as a result of being caught speeding, in lieu of taking the points...
Not necessarily. Many people take the course instead of contesting the allegation in court, where the cards are stacked against them for an even tougher penalty. They are not a higher insurance risk.

The original Nick the Greek

366 posts

100 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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Jacobyte said:
Not necessarily. Many people take the course instead of contesting the allegation in court, where the cards are stacked against them for an even tougher penalty. They are not a higher insurance risk.
Incorrect.

If you are offered a speed awareness course, it is in lieu of taking points. Ergo, you are a higher risk.

Your chances of successfully contesting a speeding offence in court are little more than zero.

Your chances of coming away with more points and a larger fine are quite real.