2017 Road Tax changes....
Discussion
It's one reason I changed my car when I did, I'd have been hammered with everything on the polestar, it's going to be harder to get pre-reg/demo cars with a decent spec and performance if the dealer has to pay that upfront.
I would have had to cover an extra 3.2K on the polestar - not nice.
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I would have had to cover an extra 3.2K on the polestar - not nice.
S.
MoggieMinor said:
Last July...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33447106
TheAllSeeingPie said:
Hmmmm too soon for a general election to stop it?
SOMETHING had to change - CO2 figures were plummeting, so VED take from them was similarly dropping. When a petrol Cayenne is zero VED on environmental grounds, you know something's fundamentally wrong with the system.Edited by TooMany2cvs on Saturday 5th March 08:24
TooMany2cvs said:
SOMETHING had to change - CO2 figures were plummeting, so VED take from them was similarly dropping. When a petrol Cayenne is zero VED on environmental grounds, you know something's fundamentally wrong with the system.
Why not just add the tax to fuel and let those who consume more pay more? What's the point in administering two systems too? Just scrap VED and save a ton of admin and time.Edited by TooMany2cvs on Saturday 5th March 08:24
TooMany2cvs said:
SOMETHING had to change - CO2 figures were plummeting, so VED take from them was similarly dropping. When a petrol Cayenne is zero VED on environmental grounds, you know something's fundamentally wrong with the system.
Or the system has succeeded in what it was theoretically supposed to achieve.TooMany2cvs said:
That'd be the death of the haulage industry, straight off.
Last time I looked at the numbers, it worked out about 12p/litre to break even, nationally.
I reckon it would be a lot more than that. I did some fag packet maths a few years ago and came up with something like 35p. Been quite a few changes over recent years with car tax so be be outdated now.Last time I looked at the numbers, it worked out about 12p/litre to break even, nationally.
I am looking forward to the changes. I'm hoping manufactures can stop compromising on their cars just to get the co2 figures down. Get rid of all these 900cc turbos and bring back the V8's!
TooMany2cvs said:
That'd be the death of the haulage industry, straight off.
Last time I looked at the numbers, it worked out about 12p/litre to break even, nationally.
Yes, however since they use the roads the most and cause the most damage I'm not really convinced by your argument. Anyway isn't haulage VED done differently so the same could apply to the "at pump" tax to even it out a bit.Last time I looked at the numbers, it worked out about 12p/litre to break even, nationally.
TheAllSeeingPie said:
Anyway isn't haulage VED done differently so the same could apply to the "at pump" tax to even it out a bit.
Easier to have variable pricing for VED than variable pricing at the pump. What's to stop Joe Mondeo from filling at the HGV pump? Or what happens when Dave Trucker's in the boonies and needs to fill up where there's no HGV pump?
I'm looking forward to them - apart from the initial period of high tax on dearer cars. By 2020, the used market should be awash with over-engined barges copping a measly £140/yr tax. Shed will be spoilt for choice.
It remains to be seen, however, how many noble individuals will pay that expensive-new-car tax premium to build a better used market...
It remains to be seen, however, how many noble individuals will pay that expensive-new-car tax premium to build a better used market...
It has never made sense to me that you can do 50,000 miles a year in a low emissions car but 1,000 in something more fun, and still pay more for the latter in road tax.
I'm sure they could work a system (naïve maybe, but doesn't the red diesel system kind of work?), and surely it would avoid the costs associated with clamping and fining tax dodgers, as well as ensuring that those who wouldn't have been paying tax anyway are forced to?
On a more positive note, does this new system not imply that after a few years you would be paying less on something that would now cost you £500 plus per annum?
I'm sure they could work a system (naïve maybe, but doesn't the red diesel system kind of work?), and surely it would avoid the costs associated with clamping and fining tax dodgers, as well as ensuring that those who wouldn't have been paying tax anyway are forced to?
On a more positive note, does this new system not imply that after a few years you would be paying less on something that would now cost you £500 plus per annum?
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