New Emissions charge for London
Discussion
StevenB said:
What they don't mention too loudly is that if you have a diesel then it's anything pre 2014 pays £10 per day. I just hope they don't expand it to the S Circ, if they do it'll be time to retire from work or I could use one of my pre 1970 cars and not have to pay anythingJagmanv12 said:
Three idiot London mayors in a row. The voters only have themselves to blame.
The problem is there doesn't seem to be any option other than idiot mayoral candidates, I saw no point in going out to vote.Edited by chevy55 on Saturday 18th February 14:59
I drove into London with my BMW i3 for the first time. It was mid week city centre and sitting there in silence and just listening to all the vans, cars and buses makes you realise these big cities have real problems with pollution that they need to address asap.
I'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
I'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
CooperS said:
I drove into London with my BMW i3 for the first time. It was mid week city centre and sitting there in silence and just listening to all the vans, cars and buses makes you realise these big cities have real problems with pollution that they need to address asap.
I'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
What would be even better is if you didn't drive any car into London or a big cityI'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
chevy55 said:
he problem is there doesn't seem to be any option other than idiot mayoral candidates, I saw no point in going out to vote.
hes talking about making the low emission lorry zone cover all pre euro 6 diesel cars which is everything inside the m25?Edited by chevy55 on Saturday 18th February 14:59
vote for stupid people win stupid prizes
Dave Hedgehog said:
chevy55 said:
he problem is there doesn't seem to be any option other than idiot mayoral candidates, I saw no point in going out to vote.
hes talking about making the low emission lorry zone cover all pre euro 6 diesel cars which is everything inside the m25?Edited by chevy55 on Saturday 18th February 14:59
vote for stupid people win stupid prizes
One point to note is anything can change before 2021 and I fully expect a complete ban on diesels coming soon.
chevy55 said:
CooperS said:
I drove into London with my BMW i3 for the first time. It was mid week city centre and sitting there in silence and just listening to all the vans, cars and buses makes you realise these big cities have real problems with pollution that they need to address asap.
I'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
What would be even better is if you didn't drive any car into London or a big cityI'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
Including parking for 6 hours near Victoria Station the travel for my wife and I came to £15 (£12 Was the parking). We walked to our things as it was sunny.
Just a shame that you couldn't drive with the windows down.
It's all a compromise. Loads of people trying to get into London. Public transport not always flexible enough. Loads of building work going on so vehicles in and out. Pollution has always been a problem Anyone remember the Houses Of Parliament being jet black before they scrubbed the stonework in the early '80s? I guess we will one day look back and talk about the days when people used to put diesel, diesel! of all things! in their cars. We are writing and reading on the internet. Twenty five or so years ago we weren't, so times change. The real problem for governments is how to capture the revenue. Whole countries have been supported by fuel. This is why electric cars stopped being produced in the 19th century. Yes true! The internal combustion engine was a great source of revenue. Electric cars were expensive, had short range and were expensive to produce. All this in the late 1800s
CooperS said:
chevy55 said:
CooperS said:
I drove into London with my BMW i3 for the first time. It was mid week city centre and sitting there in silence and just listening to all the vans, cars and buses makes you realise these big cities have real problems with pollution that they need to address asap.
I'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
What would be even better is if you didn't drive any car into London or a big cityI'm not for one moment thinking I'm suddenly on par with the Pope in all this and EVs are saintly but cities will be a nicer place to be if people can begin to switch to cleaner cars.
Including parking for 6 hours near Victoria Station the travel for my wife and I came to £15 (£12 Was the parking). We walked to our things as it was sunny.
Just a shame that you couldn't drive with the windows down.
It's been public long enough... Consultations started four years ago, ffs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-214434...
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/emissions-surchar...
It's the Congestion Charge area and times. No more than that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-214434...
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/emissions-surchar...
It's the Congestion Charge area and times. No more than that.
TooMany2cvs said:
It's been public long enough... Consultations started four years ago, ffs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-214434...
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/emissions-surchar...
It's the Congestion Charge area and times. No more than that.
It's being expanded to within the n/s circular in 2019 or 2021 depending on Citizen Khan's whim on the dayhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-214434...
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/emissions-surchar...
It's the Congestion Charge area and times. No more than that.
chevy55 said:
t's being expanded to within the n/s circular in 2019 or 2021 depending on Citizen Khan's whim on the day
It might. Or it might not.If you're that bothered, I presume you've replied to the consultation that's currently open?
https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/environment/air-q...
But, even then, it's only the current Congestion zone - just 24/7.
TooMany2cvs said:
It might. Or it might not.
If you're that bothered, I presume you've replied to the consultation that's currently open?
https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/environment/air-q...
But, even then, it's only the current Congestion zone - just 24/7.
Feck me, yet another consultation just like the last consultation on this I filled out last yearIf you're that bothered, I presume you've replied to the consultation that's currently open?
https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/environment/air-q...
But, even then, it's only the current Congestion zone - just 24/7.
SebastienClement said:
I have a 2001 petrol Rover 75. Obviously it was built and registered before 2005. However the online checked for the T-charge states I would not need to pay it, and my car conforms to euro4 standards.
That's not right, is it?
Did you use the checker that uses the reg No. I just checked my diesel Mondeo which apparently is Euro 4 and that is OK for the T charge but not the ULEZ when it comes in.That's not right, is it?
chevy55 said:
Did you use the checker that uses the reg No. I just checked my diesel Mondeo which apparently is Euro 4 and that is OK for the T charge but not the ULEZ when it comes in.
Yes - according to reg check it's fine until the ULEZ crap happens - and then it fails because it's too old (my arse).SebastienClement said:
chevy55 said:
Did you use the checker that uses the reg No. I just checked my diesel Mondeo which apparently is Euro 4 and that is OK for the T charge but not the ULEZ when it comes in.
Yes - according to reg check it's fine until the ULEZ crap happens - and then it fails because it's too old (my arse).Gassing Station | Motoring News | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff