Ban of sale of new petrol & diesel cars now back to 2035

[Big hub]

I think we must try all options to combat global worming, but i think there will be a cost effective fuel developte by 2035 and EV will become like Betamax was, also save us from some of the pig ugly designs of the new EVs.

[tamore]

looking at the announcements from the manufacturers, they seem to be pushing on with transition plans as they were before rishi shat himself. even nissan are gunning for 2030.

[LivLL]

Is that RHD cars only? I ask as the EU still has 2035 as a target.

[tamore]

LivLL said:

Is that RHD cars only? I ask as the EU still has 2035 as a target.

no idea. just looking at announcements from manufacturers. even bentley.

[LivLL]

tamore said:

no idea. just looking at announcements from manufacturers. even bentley.

Bentley are German, owned by VAG so maybe LHD too.

[tamore]

LivLL said:

tamore said:

no idea. just looking at announcements from manufacturers. even bentley.

Bentley are German, owned by VAG so maybe LHD too.

not entirely sure which side the steering wheel is on has got to do with it to be honest.

[LivLL]

Erm are you a goldfish? This is just bizarre.

UK - RHD drive - 2035
EU - LHD drive - 2035

If the “target” date means anything at all to manufacturers you’d think there would be a different approach for both markets. As they didn’t and still don’t I’d say the UK change back to where we were - ie aligned with the EU - makes zero difference.

Edited by LivLL on Monday 9th October 19:45

[tamore]

said:

am i a goldfish? don't think so. oddest question i've been asked to day, so well done with that.

still don't get your point. manufacturers were and still are looking at 2030 if not before. rishi's announcement has made sod all difference to their plans despite the whooping and hollering from the ICEicles.

i'm off to my underwater bubble filled castle.

[JMBMWM5]

Silvanus said:

No, but it makes for a good headline for those that will believe anything that is put in front of them without the need to think.

Anyone thinks EV is the answer is deluded, they will be all but forgotten in 5 years time.

[nutsyH]

You only need to watch the Lejog item on "macmaster" and "geoffbuys cars" channels on youtube to see how useless EV's are on a journey like this.
Geoff in a sub £3k BMW 320 diesel, and Mac in a Taycan.

At one point, Gretna Green, the Taycan is down to 10 miles range but the chargers have shut down as the National Grid couldn't deal with the load of 8 cars trying to charge. Lots of other interesting stuff, including the fact that the Beemer used £120 in diesel, the Taycan £250 electric and didn't make it to Lands End.

[JMBMWM5]

nutsyH said:

You only need to watch the Lejog item on "macmaster" and "geoffbuys cars" channels on youtube to see how useless EV's are on a journey like this.
Geoff in a sub £3k BMW 320 diesel, and Mac in a Taycan.

At one point, Gretna Green, the Taycan is down to 10 miles range but the chargers have shut down as the National Grid couldn't deal with the load of 8 cars trying to charge. Lots of other interesting stuff, including the fact that the Beemer used £120 in diesel, the Taycan £250 electric and didn't make it to Lands End.

Speaks volumes, trouble is the "Sheep" still follow blindly.

[tamore]

the national grid …….

so these to clickbait numpties put a deliberate mismatch use case together to get clicks. it's what they do.

if you want to go from LA to GoG without stopping, a tacan probably isn't your steed of choice.

plenty of people doing mega miles in long range teslas and the likes though.

[PeterBez]

Hello fellow enthusiasts,

In light of the ongoing debates about the future of petrol and diesel vehicles, I've been pondering a somewhat different angle that I feel warrants our attention. Before we even reach the stage of a full ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035, it seems there might be a more immediate challenge for us to navigate: taxes.

A recent development regarding the tax treatment of double cab pick-ups serves as a prime example. There's been a significant push to reclassify these vehicles from 'vans' to 'cars', which would dramatically change their tax implications. Thankfully, the industry has intervened, for now. However, this situation raises broader questions about the financial pressures that might be applied to petrol and diesel vehicle owners in the lead-up to the ban.

[Bad Bernie]

Peter Bez

Until the politicians fear for their electoral necks, the Nut Zero madness will continue.......but they are starting to realise that if u kill the ICE industry, u put millions of people out of work and hundreds of thousands of bushiness into Carey st.....all to solve a non problem....

[Milkyway]

av185 said:

Wonder if Sunak will deem it ok to sell a third fourth or fifth hand used car after 2035

The tax will increase on a sliding scale depending on how many previous owners it's had, & will apply to the third owner onwards.

No exemption will be made for classics... Who will be hit hard with an additional taxation as well.

NB: What difference does five minutes make...

Edited by Milkyway on Sunday 3rd March 09:04

[HTP99]

Bad Bernie said:

Peter Bez

Until the politicians fear for their electoral necks, the Nut Zero madness will continue.......but they are starting to realise that if u kill the ICE industry, u put millions of people out of work and hundreds of thousands of bushiness into Carey st.....all to solve a non problem....

Is Net Zero a massive election winner, I don't know anyone who really seems to care about it, all people seen to care about is the money in their pockets.