RE: Lightning strike
Discussion
quick 
Ronart has been about for quite some time (just over a 100 years IIRC), i think the guy who owns this company also owns Vanwall. The lightening originally came with a choice of ford engines, how he heck did a small independant manufacturer which up till now was no better then a kit car company, come out with cutting egde electric battery technology? Could understand if it was Mclaren or Lotus,or another well funded independant manufacturer, but Ronart?!?! its like a hillbilly winning a nobel prize for quantum dynamics
PS i love the Jag F-type styling
PS i love the Jag F-type styling
SLacKer said:
Yep. You could mount them in a module which could be swapped out in a fuel station for a charged one so no excessive waiting. Develop standards on battery casings for vehicles i.e. small, medium, large which all manufacturers adhere to and away you go. People have been doing it for years with RC cars why not on the big stuff.
....and camping gas cannisters... 
SLacKer said:
Mr Whippy said:
Would prefer a super small light car with batteries in-between the wheels on the floor (low polar inertia and CofG), with just two small motors on the back wheels.
Yep. You could mount them in a module which could be swapped out in a fuel station for a charged one so no excessive waiting. Develop standards on battery casings for vehicles i.e. small, medium, large which all manufacturers adhere to and away you go. People have been doing it for years with RC cars why not on the big stuff.I'm sure it would be quite effective. My only issue with it is that the government can then single out energy used for 'freedom' mobiles... ie, tax it.
Dave
500+lb/ft per wheel? With my rubbish maths that makes 2000 lb/ft ! From zero rpm. What must that feel like?
Wasn't there some problem with the QED Mini, which originally showcased these in-wheel motors, due to the fact that there aren't any traditional brakes? Just inertia from the motors slowing it down?
Wasn't there some problem with the QED Mini, which originally showcased these in-wheel motors, due to the fact that there aren't any traditional brakes? Just inertia from the motors slowing it down?
Mr Whippy said:
Would prefer a super small light car with batteries in-between the wheels on the floor (low polar inertia and CofG), with just two small motors on the back wheels.
Why four motors? Use more copper and add more weight? More cost?
Dave
Yeah, plus two motors would conceivably consume more power, be lighter, etc. This would seem to be a useful application for heavy transporation. After all, trains run on a similar concept, only they have a diesel engine to generate the electricity instead of batteries (I suppose that's technically a "hybrid" ). I believe GM might have been looking at that premise for some of its pickups, but I don't see why the same principle couldn't be used for a sports car.Why four motors? Use more copper and add more weight? More cost?
Dave
Edited by gentelman on Monday 11th June 17:01
There is no way a mainstream electric car would ever be allowed as if we could charge it overnight at home the treasury can kiss goodbye to the billions in fuel tax and as the electricity is the same as granny uses to heat her 1 bar fire in the depths of winter they cannot tax it in the same way.
like road charging perhaps ............
bimsb6 said:
There is no way a mainstream electric car would ever be allowed as if we could charge it overnight at home the treasury can kiss goodbye to the billions in fuel tax and as the electricity is the same as granny uses to heat her 1 bar fire in the depths of winter they cannot tax it in the same way.
like road charging perhaps ............
But then the stigma cars are *that* bad for the environment is gone, especially if wholesale leccy is coming from more green sources... so they couldn't justify the 10x subsidy for roads that road charging would easily have to meet (currently pay £40 billion and get £4 billion spent back, gonna be more inefficient with road charging)...like road charging perhaps ............
Unless they then pretend that accidents cost trillions of pounds, and evil drivers must pay! Or that electric motors produce some chemicals in operation that are now suddenly a big problem from cars (like CO2 from cars is small fry vs rest of output) and they tax them disproportionately.
Ah, UK PLC, robbing *£"£@"£'s!
Dave
Beefmeister said:
And please please PH, can we have pictures that are actually BIGGER when you click on them?
Not just the same in a separate window...
There's a delay with the bigger pictures so for now these shots are all we have at PH of the car. I thought you'd rather see the car now anyway - hopefully we're one of the first to feature it. Not just the same in a separate window...
If and when I get the pics tomorrow, I'll put them up.
AT
Editor
The 'detail' of the battery technology sounds bogus to me.
Most new 'nano' anything tends to be vapourware, and nano titanate? What the hell is that - instead of graphite? No heavy metals? Well it's going to need something more electronegative as the other pole of the battery, assuming it's a battery. And titanium isn't exactly pollution-free to produce either.
Now if it's an ultracapacitor of some sort, then they've made some monster progress in terms of capacity.
I'd expect Tesla/Lotus or Venturi to have something like this well before this car TBH, sounds too fishy to me.
(that said, if the tech is real, I want two of those motors and a boot full of batteries in my VXT. Tesla won't sell a Roadster over here yet, and the Elise base chassis is absolutely *ideal* for an electric sportscar)
Most new 'nano' anything tends to be vapourware, and nano titanate? What the hell is that - instead of graphite? No heavy metals? Well it's going to need something more electronegative as the other pole of the battery, assuming it's a battery. And titanium isn't exactly pollution-free to produce either.
Now if it's an ultracapacitor of some sort, then they've made some monster progress in terms of capacity.
I'd expect Tesla/Lotus or Venturi to have something like this well before this car TBH, sounds too fishy to me.
(that said, if the tech is real, I want two of those motors and a boot full of batteries in my VXT. Tesla won't sell a Roadster over here yet, and the Elise base chassis is absolutely *ideal* for an electric sportscar)
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