RE: Pedestrian Protection from Ford

RE: Pedestrian Protection from Ford

Friday 22nd February 2002

Pedestrian Protection from Ford

New system cushions the blow as you get mown down


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11,104 posts

277 months

Friday 22nd February 2002
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What about a 'Pedestrian Protection Program' in schools, library's and other public places that states:
'Pedestrians should at all times stay on the narrower, generally raised part of the public highway nearest the shop/house doors. In order to reach the similar looking piece of highway the other side of where cars travel they should approach the relevent crossing area in order to facilitate not being run over'

It might just work?

kevinday

11,641 posts

281 months

Friday 22nd February 2002
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I would have thought this encourages more careless driving because 'I cannot hurt pedestrians now'.

stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 22nd February 2002
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and neatly flips them over the car to be squashed by the 40 tonner following you.

CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Friday 22nd February 2002
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Here's hoping

Leithen

10,928 posts

268 months

Friday 22nd February 2002
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I've always thought that the cheapest, simplest and most obvious way of improving pedestrian safety would be to follow the example set by some of our continental cousins ie. Denmark

Anyone caught crossing a main road or highway, for example city centres, high streets etc away from traffic lights or pedestrian crossings should receive an on the spot fine by police.

This should not apply around residential streets where the onus for safety should be on the car and driver. Main roads however should be recognized as routes designed for cars, with clear separation of pedestrian and car and fines for pedestrians wandering down the road in the same way a driver would be punished for driving up the pavement.

This of course would require police back on the beat (unlikely to ever happen) and recognition from the state that cars have a place in our transport structure (even less likely).

The only part of the idea with any attraction to the authorities would be the ability to raise a bit more money..... but you can guarantee that if strictly implemented, pedestrian casualties would be drastically reduced around town.

Cotty

39,568 posts

285 months

Saturday 23rd February 2002
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Reminds me of an article I read in the paper the other day about a young girl hit by a car. The insurance company offered the girl £400,000 in an out of court settlement.
She wanted more money, so refused the offer and went to court. The judge ruled that the motorist was not at fault as the girl just stepped out in front of the car and the driver had no time to react. She ended up with nothing

motorist 1 pedestrian 0

hertsbiker

6,313 posts

272 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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oh ok. Why not remove all the safety stuff from inside the car, that'll make the car drivers a bit more vulnerable, and less likely to do dangerous stuff.

Stands to reason: safe cars = dangerous drivers.

kevinday

11,641 posts

281 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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Absolutely right. Fill cars with safety s**t and people drive like numpties. What will we have next, external airbags or 12"/30cm of soft jelly? I suppose that would be good for the Drivel jelly test

Cotty

39,568 posts

285 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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oh ok. Why not remove all the safety stuff from inside the car, that'll make the car drivers a bit more vulnerable, and less likely to do dangerous stuff.

Stands to reason: safe cars = dangerous drivers.





Hhhhmmm bikes are not as safe as cars, no airbag, no seatbelt, no crash protection etc does it make bikers slow down, does it f......

steve harrison

461 posts

268 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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oh ok. Why not remove all the safety stuff from inside the car, that'll make the car drivers a bit more vulnerable, and less likely to do dangerous stuff.




Clarkson suggested this in one of his articles. All cars should have a large, needle sharp, steel spike mounted in the centre of the steering wheel. Then you can go as fast as you like (dare).

hertsbiker

6,313 posts

272 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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Hhhhmmm bikes are not as safe as cars, no airbag, no seatbelt, no crash protection etc does it make bikers slow down, does it f......



I can't possibly explain my way out of this one! Drat !!

Err, you've got me there. Damn. I really am stumped for a logical explanation.


CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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Hhhhmmm bikes are not as safe as cars, no airbag, no seatbelt, no crash protection etc does it make bikers slow down, does it f......



I can't possibly explain my way out of this one! Drat !!

Err, you've got me there. Damn. I really am stumped for a logical explanation.
I think in this respect, cars and bikes are quite different issues..

Short Explaination:

Enthusiasts take personal responsibility for their driving/riding and hence their safety. This includes accounting for road conditions, appropriate speed etc. By way of illustration, I'm equally happy to gun it in a TT with lots of safety gubbins or a TVR with none, because either way, it's all in my own hands (I more often than not kill the DSP on the TT anyway)

Numpties, taking little interest in their driving/riding, devolve responsibility for their safety to the devices (SRS ABD SIPS DSP) - hence the more saftey devices fitted, the more of their responsibility is shouldered by the technology. These people aspire to be like Americans, eating breakfast, reading books and applying make-up like they do on Freeways in the USA.

Car Drivers are 90% Numpty, 10% Enthusiast

Motorcyclists are 90% Enthusiast, 10% Numpty

Therefore, most motorcyclists are prepared to gun it, a few car drivers do the same.

The sort of people who are numpty commuter motorcyclists have bought BMW C1s (or whtever those kinder egg motorcycles are called...)

I've tried to get a coherent explaination out there, but can't help feeling I failed to do so, but you kinda see what I mean.. right ?


>> Edited by CarZee on Monday 25th February 15:58

ZZR600

15,603 posts

269 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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oh ok. Why not remove all the safety stuff from inside the car, that'll make the car drivers a bit more vulnerable, and less likely to do dangerous stuff.

Stands to reason: safe cars = dangerous drivers.





Hhhhmmm bikes are not as safe as cars, no airbag, no seatbelt, no crash protection etc does it make bikers slow down, does it f......





Ive got knee pads !

manek

2,972 posts

285 months

Monday 25th February 2002
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Frankly, you guys scare me sometimes.

I hate it when people drive unaware of their surroundings -- which seems to be most pople most of the time -- but sometimes people here show a worrying lack of concern for human life.

Have you never made a mistake when driving or walking? Or used a pavement? I sure have (to both). Or do you think that being able to pay for a fast car makes you better than the rest of the human race?