New drivers banned from driving in the dark

New drivers banned from driving in the dark

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superflid

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2,254 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th March 2002
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Apparently our caring government now wants to make new drivers less likeley to hurt themselves by stopping them from driving after dark! My son is just wondering how to get to work at 5am if it goes through.
Also on the list is restricting new drivers to less powerful cars(as if insurance prices didn't do that anyway), I wouldn't bet against this one, as bikers have had similar rules for yonks.

JMorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 9th March 2002
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The after dark bit is a bit daft but I agree with the power bit. I wonder how many max power/bolt on brigade are honest with the insurance company?

Marshy

2,748 posts

285 months

Sunday 10th March 2002
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So forcing them to take driving lessons in the dark isn't a better idea then? Ditto motorways. Ditto countryside *and* bastard-busy city centres. Uh, I'll stop now.

tvradict

3,829 posts

275 months

Sunday 10th March 2002
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I wonder how many max power/bolt on brigade are honest with the insurance company?



Erm... only they who can afford!!!

I have just got a policy on a new car (new to me, '93 Orion LX) £850!!! Yes you did read that right. £850 THIRD PARTY FIRE AND THEFT!!! It's totally standard! Hasn't even got bloody wheel trims!! Then I hear my mates at college bragging about how they've lowered their's 50mm, put 18" alloys on it, bumpers, skirts etc etc etc! And they still only pay £500 FC! Because they don't tell their insurance company!!

Marshy, I agree with the lesson thing! I did most of my Drving lessons during December and January 00/01! Train people what to look out for at night, ie, lights on the horizon, against the hedge/wall/trees at corners, tail lights in the distance, on the hedge/wall/trees/sign post opposite junctions etc etc etc and people will see them and be able to act accordingly!!!

daern

23 posts

266 months

Sunday 10th March 2002
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I wonder how many max power/bolt on brigade are honest with the insurance company?


Erm... only they who can afford!!!


Yeah, well we all had to do it. I paid nearly £700 TPFT on a 20 year old 1300 beetle when I was 17.
I am still paying £800 almost 10 years later...faster car, I admit, but I accept it as a fact of life now.

Think of "insurance truth" like paying £500 a year for NOTHING, 'cos that's what they'll give you when they look at the remains of your slammed/modded motor that you didn't tell 'em about and tell you to **** off.

tuscansix

535 posts

277 months

Sunday 10th March 2002
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Well maybe I'm just being conspiritorial? but is this a cunning scheme to reduce the number of people who drive cars and have to use public transport instead.

If you never have lessons teaching you how to drive in the dark and you are then prevented from doing so. You may never learn or are to scared to do so, therefore you have to rely on pisspoor transport instead.

I think someone posted on this board before that he had driving lessons in Exeter or wherever, while his friends did not. Now years later he's the only one who will drive in the city.

Same possible outcome?

Nightmare

5,188 posts

285 months

Monday 11th March 2002
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"but is this a cunning scheme to reduce the number of people who drive cars and have to use public transport instead."

I really, really hope so. The more people who they can get out of cars the better in my opinion. I truly believe that the majority of crashes are caused by/involve people who dont really give a toss about driving. Seeing as most people really do see a car as a means of getting from A to B, then if there were good alternatives Id rather they used it. And to be totally honest, even if there isnt a good alternative I wish they werent on the road. Enthusiasts like us get punished because about 90% of all drivers should never have been given a license. If cost drives them off the road (or whatever drives them off), then good riddance in my book. Oh, and in case someone says "so driving will just become the province of the rich then" - no it wont...it will become the province of the rich and those prepared to make sacrifices in order to carry on enjoying their hobby! It isn't necessarily fair, but it is reality....

Night

kevinday

11,641 posts

281 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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Well said Nightmare!

mr_tony

6,328 posts

270 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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Tuscan six - that was me.
I learned to drive in Plymouth (big city ) mates learned in small towns and some still wont drive anywhere 'busy'...

I think this could have a _similar_ effect.

In the main I'm with Night on this, less people on the road == good thing.

However originating from the back of beyond as I do, I can see that this won't be practical in country areas. - Particularly in winter, people still have to get to their jobs and drive for their work. This won't be possible if in December they cannot drive before 9am or after 4pm!!




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MEMSDesign

1,100 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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I learned to drive in a very small town (Ludlow). When I moved to Brum I was utterly shite for quite some time. Got the hang of things eventually though.

IPAddis

2,471 posts

285 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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The more people who they can get out of cars the better in my opinion.



Mine too. The only problem is that if less people used the roads, the Government would spend EVEN less (if that is possible) to maintain them.

thom

2,745 posts

274 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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Also on the list is restricting new drivers to less powerful cars


Vive la République! (£360 third party with fire, accidents caused not by me, steal)



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Fatboy

7,984 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th March 2002
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£360 third party with fire, accidents caused not by me, steal


So not only do you have really good cheap booze and lots of sun, car insurance is dirt cheap too! Vive la Republique indeed!

castex

4,936 posts

274 months

Thursday 14th March 2002
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Thom, I'm living in france but insured for way too much in the UK. Is it easy to get insured over here?
I'm sure i must be able to save some money somewhere; would i have to tell them about my speeding history??