RE: Third of Cars fail MOT
Discussion
Bl@@dy MOT stations, I once took my dads car for MOT, having jusr replaced the sill with a genuine factory part all spot welded in place etc. I had filled the join to the rear wing just to seal it from water and the MOT tester informed me that it was "bog" and that he could make me take it off so he could inspect it. This made me blow big time. I dropped the ramp and drove out of the place without paying.
RE.1.4 Orion Cats.
My Dad, who works at Fords said the 1993 1.4 engine would probably have been a CFI (Central Fuel Injection) He thinks made by webber.
It looks, apparently like a Carb, but is fuel Injected.
In this case you would have a Cat on the car.
My Dad had a 1992 1.4 Escort with a carb and that did not have a cat.
The CFI replaced it around 1993.
Hope this helps.
My Dad, who works at Fords said the 1993 1.4 engine would probably have been a CFI (Central Fuel Injection) He thinks made by webber.
It looks, apparently like a Carb, but is fuel Injected.
In this case you would have a Cat on the car.
My Dad had a 1992 1.4 Escort with a carb and that did not have a cat.
The CFI replaced it around 1993.
Hope this helps.
Right, I have a webber carb-thing on my engine, but it is definately not the webber carb as described and pictured in the Haynes manual. My car has a CVH engine and big ugly cat! It all makes sense now!!!
I have an Injection Ignition Module thing, and a dodgy looking carb!
Supraman, if I take a digi pic and post it on a web page, could you have it confirmed as a CFi?? Then I would know for sure when discussing things with ford and other lame garages!!!
Cheers
Stuart!
I have an Injection Ignition Module thing, and a dodgy looking carb!
Supraman, if I take a digi pic and post it on a web page, could you have it confirmed as a CFi?? Then I would know for sure when discussing things with ford and other lame garages!!!
Cheers
Stuart!
The MoT makes a subjective judgement on noise, if the car makes more noise than the average for its type it fails.
As statistically 50% of the cars will be above average and 50% below we immediately take 50% off the road. The average then drops to what was originally the 25 percentile point, half of the cars fail again and so on until there is only one car of each type on the road.
Traffic jams are a thing of the past but banger racing and track days hit new heights.. Think about it and if you run an MoT station don't employ a statistician !!!
As statistically 50% of the cars will be above average and 50% below we immediately take 50% off the road. The average then drops to what was originally the 25 percentile point, half of the cars fail again and so on until there is only one car of each type on the road.
Traffic jams are a thing of the past but banger racing and track days hit new heights.. Think about it and if you run an MoT station don't employ a statistician !!!
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Not totally true because the examiner can 'withdraw' the old certificate if the car fails on something really dangerous eg. no brakes. If you then drive the car on the road plod can pull you for no MOT. This description is slightly simplified as I cannot remember all the tech terms.
do they get to keep your current certificate then? if not, drive off and to hell with it. But obviously get the damn thing fixed ASAP !
What makes me laugh, is new cars being exempt for 3 years. You could do 100K mile sin that time, what condition will the car be in???!
Mad world.
Night all, work again for me. Doh !
C.
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Not totally true because the examiner can 'withdraw' the old certificate if the car fails on something really dangerous eg. no brakes.
...do they get to keep your current certificate then? if not, drive off and to hell with it. But obviously get the damn thing fixed ASAP !
Carl,
I think that if your car gets failed any existing MOT certificate with time still to run is considered invalid. Therefore even if you kept it and produced it if asked it would be invalid should plod check the registration / MOT with authorities.
The best bet if your worried is to get a 'pre MOT' check done by a testing station - same as the MOT but if no failure document is raised your old MOT is still valid. You should get the car fixed however asap.
Cheers,
JSG.
My two €-cents......
Having lived in Germany now for over 25 years I was comparing the (albeit competitive) British MOT system to the (over burocratic) german system. One thing we don't have here are companies who, to push up their turnover, fail a car. This, from what I'm reading here, seems to be the norm in GB. The local garage here, can do a pre-inspection, but the inspection itself is done by a separate "neutral" governmental TÜV employee (TüV is technische Überwachungs Verein = technical inspection service) who either visits the local garage or you have to take the vehicle to a large (and I mean large) governmental testing station. They check the vehicle on 156 points and the majority of vehicles here are roadworthy as a result. (Black sheep excluded)
The only problem with a government employee is that he ONLY works according to burocratic guidelines, can't see past the end of his burocratic nose, therefore a streetrod, homebuilt, or any special will just NEVER get past them. Big Brother working, but in the majority of the time here to the benefit of the general motoring public. Only probs are when one wants to have an "exotic" (I wanted a Noble M12 but gave up) due to their burocratic shortsightedness.
Having lived in Germany now for over 25 years I was comparing the (albeit competitive) British MOT system to the (over burocratic) german system. One thing we don't have here are companies who, to push up their turnover, fail a car. This, from what I'm reading here, seems to be the norm in GB. The local garage here, can do a pre-inspection, but the inspection itself is done by a separate "neutral" governmental TÜV employee (TüV is technische Überwachungs Verein = technical inspection service) who either visits the local garage or you have to take the vehicle to a large (and I mean large) governmental testing station. They check the vehicle on 156 points and the majority of vehicles here are roadworthy as a result. (Black sheep excluded)
The only problem with a government employee is that he ONLY works according to burocratic guidelines, can't see past the end of his burocratic nose, therefore a streetrod, homebuilt, or any special will just NEVER get past them. Big Brother working, but in the majority of the time here to the benefit of the general motoring public. Only probs are when one wants to have an "exotic" (I wanted a Noble M12 but gave up) due to their burocratic shortsightedness.
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I have to disagree, the way forward is well looked after cars, modern or not.
I agree with Paul. I have a 40 year old car which I have owned for about 7 years now and it has passed every MOT first time during my ownership, probably better than most modern cars. For about 3 years it was used as my daily car, rain or shine.
It's down to how you look after it at the end of the day.
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