Specialist Car Design

Specialist Car Design

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fuoriserie

Original Poster:

4,560 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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I'm an italian car designer and love british specialist cars.
In Italy our car legislation does not allow nor the design or building at home of a specialist or kit car, but I've heard that the european union will legiferate on this matter.
Anyone out there know what will be the fate of the specialist car in the near future and if the British SVA Laws are going to be extended all over Europe and Italy included. I would like to hear from anyone, Thanks
Ciao
www.fuoriseriedesign.com

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Just had a browse around your website. Neat and stylish little site. I like the fat bloke's Aston Martin!

fuoriserie

Original Poster:

4,560 posts

270 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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Thanks Petrolted for your compliments, I'm trying to get away from al this new edge design, eventhough some of it is really good, I'm more for soft and luscious curves, sensous and cleaner lines, it seems I'l talking of something else.........Ciao

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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Looks like there's some serious talent going to waste here. I love the look of these designs, particularly the Aston and the Lotus. If the new "small" Aston looks like this, I'll be a happy bunny!

I think, however, that the designs could do with being "stretched" and although I'm a fan of big wheels, I think these look the equivilent of about 30" ;-)

I'd love to see these built as scale models.

Good work fuoriserie

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

268 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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Nice pictures. It always seem a shame to me that the artists impression never quite matches the finished article. How many times do you see in the magazines an illustration depicting 22'' alloy wheels with rubber band tyres. When the car actually makes it's debut they've suddenly turned into 13'' steel pressed jobs with clip on trims. I've read before from a respected italian designer that this trick is used to distract from the weakness of the rest of a design.

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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Much the same as tinting the windows black - ever noticed that every car at the motorshow either has black windows or is lit from the inside?

Matt.

Fatboy

7,986 posts

273 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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Much the same as tinting the windows black - ever noticed that every car at the motorshow either has black windows or is lit from the inside?



Someone I know who works for Jag says that's because they usually can't be arsed with doing the interior, so it's usually just a shell

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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Its true, a lot of cars you see at the shows but cant touch are made of clay, hence no interior, no engine, no electrics etc etc.

The new Mini, the red one that was in all the papers when it was first shown in Frankfurt was clay.

Matt.

fuoriserie

Original Poster:

4,560 posts

270 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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I agree with twin turbo on my wheel design, but I was thinking more in the region of 23 inch, but I would not mind bigger wheels!!
I use bigger wheels on my renderings to catch the attention of the viewer, because I know inevitably he will comment on It. I really appreciate all your feedback and critique, and love the humour of the answers.
Ciao

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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Could be a problem getting 23" tyres at the local Kwik Fit branch ;-)

Seriously though, I hope we get to see some more of your work.

You've got a good start, Fuoriserie slips off the tongue about as easily as Guigario, Fiovaranti and Pininfarina. (please forgive the spelling!!!!)

ErnestM

11,621 posts

268 months

Wednesday 20th March 2002
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You need to give the boys at Hethel a call and get the Lotus 7 (especially the bottom two pics) to them. That is a good update to the original design...

ErnestM

CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Thursday 4th April 2002
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For large-wheels/maxyP/SUV berkinaldity, check this ridiculous thing out...

www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=6&i=4240&t=4240

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Thursday 4th April 2002
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plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Thursday 4th April 2002
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Oh what is the point!

SUV's have huge arch clearance to go off road not to fill full of chrome wheels! Buy a bloody car, you could have a 2nd hand 735 for the price of those wheels!

Reminds me of the 'bigfoot' suzuki jeeps of the early nineties, equally pointless and cosmetically retarded.

Matt.

CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Thursday 4th April 2002
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heh.. just read some of the comments down the page...
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If electricity comes from electrons, then morality comes from morons
heheh

DavidP

371 posts

273 months

Thursday 4th April 2002
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Reminds me of the 'bigfoot' suzuki jeeps of the early nineties, equally pointless and cosmetically retarded.



What was it the Sunday Times said......"reminiscent of denim skirts and white stilettoes, and just about as good in the mud"

Not that I'm against denim skirts and white stilettoes you understand

prelude4ws

590 posts

275 months

Tuesday 9th April 2002
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Nice pictures. It always seem a shame to me that the artists impression never quite matches the finished article. How many times do you see in the magazines an illustration depicting 22'' alloy wheels with rubber band tyres. When the car actually makes it's debut they've suddenly turned into 13'' steel pressed jobs with clip on trims. I've read before from a respected italian designer that this trick is used to distract from the weakness of the rest of a design.



Not entierly true that!! yes there are many ways of hiding the weekness of a design, but mostly when designing a car at an early stage you are trying to sell an idea or feeling about the car rather than the actual thing. you trying to find the "i want one factor" and trust me drawing an emotion is hard!! once that direction has been decided then you actually "design the car" working out all the engineering bits and regulations but still trying to keep the feel of the first sketch. and that is the really hard bit. so often the early sketches appear in magazines becouse they are more exciting visually.

My advice to this guy is this. buy a good set of elipse templates!!. they are expensive but when you've finished the first sketch you do with them, they will be worth every penny!! and work on your sense of proportion, big wheels are great, but they take away the sense of scale of a sketch. for example in the side view aston martin (shown in an earlier post) you could stretch the car about 10 - 15% and shrink the wheels a touch and this would give the image a much greater feeling of strength. An aston is a sleek powerful car, by making the image longer you can "sell" this feeling to the viewer, shrinking the wheels a bit would give strength to the body enhancing the feeling of strength. heres an example

drop me an e-mail if you have any more questions be happy to help out a fellow designer!!

Mark.

>> Edited by prelude4ws on Tuesday 9th April 17:41