DVLA crushing vehicles on finance.

DVLA crushing vehicles on finance.

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keithkirkby

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4 posts

161 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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Well i have had a read of a few things on here, just wanted to let you know this part. HEHEHE. Ok DVLA USE THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACT, DISPOSALE OF VEHICLES, FOR NO ROAD TAX. IF YOU DONT PAY THEY CRUSH THE VEHICLE OR SELL IT ON. I HAVE JUST STOPPED THEM DEAD IN THERE TRACKS. The law. UK law states this. The finance company are the legal owners of any vehicle on finance, untill the last payment has been recieved. Under English law, (quote). To sell on or dispose of anything on finance in the UK & without the finance companies approval. is. (QUOTE). Fraud & Desception. I am due to take them to court soon. I also have the Parliamentry Ombudsman waiting for me to Autherise a full investigation into DVLA,s law breaking. Love to here back on this

Timberwolf

5,343 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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Who the hell commits to a car on finance and then can't afford a tax disc?

Defcon5

6,183 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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What? The DVLA dont care who owns the vehicle - if it had no tax, it had no tax, thats all that matters

keithkirkby

Original Poster:

4 posts

161 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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Actualy you are wrong there, the court letter i have clearly states this. The taxation of the vehicle & the disposal of a vehicle on finance are now two sepparate issues.

Scraggles

7,619 posts

224 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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reads like a troll post

HowMuchLonger

3,004 posts

193 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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keithkirkby said:
Actualy you are wrong there, the court letter i have clearly states this. The taxation of the vehicle & the disposal of a vehicle on finance are now two sepparate issues.
Unfortunately you still owe the finance company the money.

Why on earth did you not tax the vehicle, or did the dvla seize the car whilst you were in the post office paying for the tax.

What car was it?

Defcon5

6,183 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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keithkirkby said:
Actualy you are wrong there, the court letter i have clearly states this. The taxation of the vehicle & the disposal of a vehicle on finance are now two sepparate issues.
Scan the letter in

Soovy

35,829 posts

271 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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The DVLA will crush the car. You still owe the finance company the money, as you would if you failed to insure it and it was written off.


Tough cheese.


PS I do this for a living.


PPS you will lose in Court, if it gets that far.


PPS congratulations on the most incorrect piece of Law I've ever seen on here, which is saying something.





kVA

2,460 posts

205 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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I think you will also find you are in breach of contract with the finance company... Isn't one of the T&Cs that you have to tax, insure (fully comp) and service the car, etc...

Idiot

Soovy

35,829 posts

271 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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Has he gone?


keithkirkby

Original Poster:

4 posts

161 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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I will reply when i have more info, i was in hospital during this time.

Soovy

35,829 posts

271 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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keithkirkby said:
I will reply when i have more info, i was in hospital during this time.
Good luck with it mate. Really.


Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Crushing a car that's still worth a sizeable chunk of cash is downright stupidity - Surely they confiscate cars in these circumstances and sell them at auction?

Soovy

35,829 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Clivey said:
Crushing a car that's still worth a sizeable chunk of cash is downright stupidity - Surely they confiscate cars in these circumstances and sell them at auction?
Nope.

Crushing is the best deterrent I reckon. NO excuse for no tax


LewisR

678 posts

215 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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but crushing a car means that different people pay different penalties. Crushing a knackered old Fiesta would be, say £50, whereas crushing a 1959 Ferrari 250 GT California would be a few million pound penalty.

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Soovy said:
Nope.

Crushing is the best deterrent I reckon. NO excuse for no tax
Sorry Soovy, I just cannot agree with this.

By all means confiscate the car and sell it on to someone who is willing to pay RFL, but crushing a perfectly good, potentially rare & valuable car just to be spiteful? Really?

It's like those Thai officials who crushed a Ferrari 456GT because it was stolen in another country and smuggled in without paying import duty etc. - Instead of making an effort to return the car to it's rightful owner, they drove a tracked vehicle over it. IMHO they should have their bks cut off and stapled to their bd foreheads...philistines!


P-Jay

10,565 posts

191 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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I agree, a bit of 'common sense' (even though I hate the term) should be used. They should be sent off to auction and the money fed back into the system. Also wouldn't be too much hassle for DVLA to auto-email the finance company to offer the opportunity to pay the outstanding tax and repo the vehicle they have all the details.

Crushing perfectly serviceable vehicles, might get the DVLA some headlines and put the fear into normal law abiding people to check their discs are up-to-date (because DVLA aren't responsible if you don't get a reminder, they don't even have to send one if they don't want to) but it's bad for the environment, bad for the economy and bad for the collective moral of a country where you can face prison for speeding, but will more than likely get a caution for shoplifting and have your Car crushed if you forget to tax it, but get caught drink-driving and you keep it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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So you fail to follow the rules and now you want to sue those that enforce the rules for doing what exactly? Following the rules?

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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P-Jay said:
Crushing perfectly serviceable vehicles, might get the DVLA some headlines and put the fear into normal law abiding people to check their discs are up-to-date (because DVLA aren't responsible if you don't get a reminder, they don't even have to send one if they don't want to) but it's bad for the environment, bad for the economy and bad for the collective moral of a country where you can face prison for speeding, but will more than likely get a caution for shoplifting and have your Car crushed if you forget to tax it, but get caught drink-driving and you keep it.
Precisely. yes

Actually, I seem to recall that they only crush the vehicles that don't sell at auction or are unroadworthy (you know, the sort of dilapidated rustheaps that frequently feature on 'Road Wars' and the like).

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Clivey said:
P-Jay said:
Crushing perfectly serviceable vehicles, might get the DVLA some headlines and put the fear into normal law abiding people to check their discs are up-to-date (because DVLA aren't responsible if you don't get a reminder, they don't even have to send one if they don't want to) but it's bad for the environment, bad for the economy and bad for the collective moral of a country where you can face prison for speeding, but will more than likely get a caution for shoplifting and have your Car crushed if you forget to tax it, but get caught drink-driving and you keep it.
Precisely. yes
That, and their reliance on APNR to actually give correct and up-to-date information on stuff like tax and insurance... wink