DVLA crushing vehicles on finance.

DVLA crushing vehicles on finance.

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Pickled

2,051 posts

143 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Astronavis 1 said:
only a subject of interest .
To your Doctors?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Astronavis 1 said:
OK ,, your cars been stolen by the Dvla
Oh, this is going to be good.

Astronavis 1 said:
first thing you do is realize that they are a corporation
Here we go...

Astronavis 1 said:
Second thing you do is not talk to them at all as you words can legally bind you into "Their " terms
...and BINGO. Full-fat FMotWibble.

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

118 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Astronavis 1 said:
OK ,, your cars been stolen by the Dvla , first thing you do is realize that they are a corporation . Second thing you do is not talk to them at all as you words can legally bind you into "Their " terms . The main problem is the criminal damage law hey break by crushing YOUR property . , They get around this by the registration document conning you into signing your car over to them , making you the keeper of the vehicle . So technically they can now crush the car because it belongs to them . You need to take all documents down to the dvla office , demand to have the car "De registered " so the car now becomes your private property . If they crush this car you can now file for a criminal damage claim . You then call or visit the impounding yard and hand them a written contract of your side of the contract , it can be verbal with a witness or recording , You then hand them an invoice for your time , your emotional distress , any future failed business transactions , what ever you know they have cost you , make a list , In fact make it what you want , make it a million pounds . , So now even after they have given you your vehicle back you can take them to court for your side of the contract . Once you receive your car ,providing the car is for your own private conveyance home or leisure , you can drive the car without registration plates , insurance , tax , or even a license ,, as the other part of the DVLA con is you only need a license to drive for a company . When the vehicle is your own private property , it changes the law to common law right to travel . You still can get arrested by the ones who don't know the law , but then again you have to remember to "Not Consent " to the Acts , and hand your own part of the contract before even talking . as talking costs money and time . Be sure to research any of this information before putting into practice ,, as it can go wrong if you don't know what your doing . this is not legal advice , it is only a subject of interest .
You're right, its bullst.

basherX

2,477 posts

161 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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I say, waiter! Can I have some of what he's drinking please?

Wacky Racer

38,161 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Astronavis 1 said:
OK ,, your cars been stolen by the Dvla'.

First thing you do is realize that they are a corporation .

Second thing you do is not talk to them at all as you words can legally bind you into "Their " terms . The main problem is the criminal damage law hey break by crushing YOUR property , they get around this by the registration document conning you into signing your car over to them , making you the keeper of the vehicle .

So technically they can now crush the car because it belongs to them . You need to take all documents down to the dvla office , demand to have the car "De registered " so the car now becomes your private property.

If they crush this car you can now file for a criminal damage claim . You then call or visit the impounding yard and hand them a written contract of your side of the contract , it can be verbal with a witness or recording , You then hand them an invoice for your time , your emotional distress , any future failed business transactions , what ever you know they have cost you , make a list.

In fact make it what you want , make it a million pounds . , So now even after they have given you your vehicle back you can take them to court for your side of the contract . Once you receive your car ,providing the car is for your own private conveyance home or leisure , you can drive the car without registration plates , insurance , tax , or even a license ,, as the other part of the DVLA con is you only need a license to drive for a company.

When the vehicle is your own private property , it changes the law to common law right to travel . You still can get arrested by the ones who don't know the law , but then again you have to remember to "Not Consent " to the Acts , and hand your own part of the contract before even talking . as talking costs money and time.

Be sure to research any of this information before putting into practice ,, as it can go wrong if you don't know what your doing . this is not legal advice , it is only a subject of interest .
That's better.




It's still bks though.

165gt

333 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Haha, quality. A resurrected troll thread with the new post outdoing the OP for 'trollness'.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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I particularly like the concept of there being two different sides to a contract.

caelite

4,274 posts

112 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Wacky Racer said:
Astronavis 1 said:
OK ,, your cars been stolen by the Dvla'.

First thing you do is realize that they are a corporation .

Second thing you do is not talk to them at all as you words can legally bind you into "Their " terms . The main problem is the criminal damage law hey break by crushing YOUR property , they get around this by the registration document conning you into signing your car over to them , making you the keeper of the vehicle .

So technically they can now crush the car because it belongs to them . You need to take all documents down to the dvla office , demand to have the car "De registered " so the car now becomes your private property.

If they crush this car you can now file for a criminal damage claim . You then call or visit the impounding yard and hand them a written contract of your side of the contract , it can be verbal with a witness or recording , You then hand them an invoice for your time , your emotional distress , any future failed business transactions , what ever you know they have cost you , make a list.

In fact make it what you want , make it a million pounds . , So now even after they have given you your vehicle back you can take them to court for your side of the contract . Once you receive your car ,providing the car is for your own private conveyance home or leisure , you can drive the car without registration plates , insurance , tax , or even a license ,, as the other part of the DVLA con is you only need a license to drive for a company.

When the vehicle is your own private property , it changes the law to common law right to travel . You still can get arrested by the ones who don't know the law , but then again you have to remember to "Not Consent " to the Acts , and hand your own part of the contract before even talking . as talking costs money and time.

Be sure to research any of this information before putting into practice ,, as it can go wrong if you don't know what your doing . this is not legal advice , it is only a subject of interest .
That's better.




It's still bks though.
Im suprised he was able to get through that post without using the terms "We're Freemen on the land" or "Maritime law". Although "Common law" was slipped in somewhere. Bravo.

Edited by caelite on Wednesday 20th January 09:33

jeremyh1

1,358 posts

127 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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The DVLA have a car with no keys in all cases that alone helps them come to the decision to crush them .They dont have the time for working out and weighing it up It is rare for an expensive car to be lifted yes some people on here will know of such cases but in reality it is rare .
If you dont want this type of hassle guess what you have to do ?
You dont even have to go to the post office anymore

Aprilia89

5 posts

87 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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never heard that

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Has a freeman ever won anything in court using the "no consent" rule, and that he is a traveller of the road.

Dave Hedgehog

14,555 posts

204 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Clivey said:
Soovy said:
Nope.

Crushing is the best deterrent I reckon. NO excuse for no tax
Sorry Soovy, I just cannot agree with this.

By all means confiscate the car and sell it on to someone who is willing to pay RFL, but crushing a perfectly good, potentially rare & valuable car just to be spiteful? Really?

It's like those Thai officials who crushed a Ferrari 456GT because it was stolen in another country and smuggled in without paying import duty etc. - Instead of making an effort to return the car to it's rightful owner, they drove a tracked vehicle over it. IMHO they should have their bks cut off and stapled to their bd foreheads...philistines!
its the highest level of retardedness

make it legal, sell it, use proceeds to feed and educate homeless children

AutoClouseau

185 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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When the contractor uplifts a car for no ved, it is held in a compound for 14 days to allow the registered keeper to retrieve it and pay the relevant fees. If that doesn't happen, its then passed across to normally, Wilsons auctions, who decide if the vehicle is fit to go on the road or not, if so, apply for a new V5 and then place on their weekly, no reserve, online government auctions, which also include the seized by Customs vehicles. Vehicles not deemed fit for the road are auctioned on a destruct only basis the same way. Anybody can register to bid and vehicles go for a few hundred pounds normally or less, but most have no keys. Vehicles deemed to be of a higher value than what is the norm, would be taken to Ireland for their regular mainstream auctions, so its not just a case of everything is crushed.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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AutoClouseau said:
When the contractor uplifts a car for no ved, it is held in a compound for 14 days to allow the registered keeper to retrieve it and pay the relevant fees. If that doesn't happen, its then passed across to normally, Wilsons auctions, who decide if the vehicle is fit to go on the road or not, if so, apply for a new V5 and then place on their weekly, no reserve, online government auctions, which also include the seized by Customs vehicles. Vehicles not deemed fit for the road are auctioned on a destruct only basis the same way. Anybody can register to bid and vehicles go for a few hundred pounds normally or less, but most have no keys. Vehicles deemed to be of a higher value than what is the norm, would be taken to Ireland for their regular mainstream auctions, so its not just a case of everything is crushed.
And this miscellaneous bag is being auctioned as we speak...
http://stock.wilsonsauctions.com/wilsons/timedauct...

gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Surely the punishment (fine) should be proportional to the 'crime' committed no? Scrapping a £30k (or more) car for £100 overdue car tax is not proportional at all. Thats leaving aside the huge waste of resources that went into building the vehicle.

snapdragon69

207 posts

183 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Is this one of those bangers you can get on finance?

SimonTheSailor

12,596 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th March 2017
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Out of interest why do the expensive ones go to Ireland ?

grkify

366 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Love it, this is hilarious! Buys car on finance doesn't pay tax then wants to take dvla to court. What's a years tax £500 max £1000 if its brand new but happy to spend money on pointless court case. Get back under your bridge troll.

layercake

422 posts

104 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Astronavis 1 said:
OK ,, your cars been stolen by the Dvla , first thing you do is realize that they are a corporation . Second thing you do is not talk to them at all as you words can legally bind you into "Their " terms . The main problem is the criminal damage law hey break by crushing YOUR property . , They get around this by the registration document conning you into signing your car over to them , making you the keeper of the vehicle . So technically they can now crush the car because it belongs to them . You need to take all documents down to the dvla office , demand to have the car "De registered " so the car now becomes your private property . If they crush this car you can now file for a criminal damage claim . You then call or visit the impounding yard and hand them a written contract of your side of the contract , it can be verbal with a witness or recording , You then hand them an invoice for your time , your emotional distress , any future failed business transactions , what ever you know they have cost you , make a list , In fact make it what you want , make it a million pounds . , So now even after they have given you your vehicle back you can take them to court for your side of the contract . Once you receive your car ,providing the car is for your own private conveyance home or leisure , you can drive the car without registration plates , insurance , tax , or even a license ,, as the other part of the DVLA con is you only need a license to drive for a company . When the vehicle is your own private property , it changes the law to common law right to travel . You still can get arrested by the ones who don't know the law , but then again you have to remember to "Not Consent " to the Acts , and hand your own part of the contract before even talking . as talking costs money and time . Be sure to research any of this information before putting into practice ,, as it can go wrong if you don't know what your doing . this is not legal advice , it is only a subject of interest .
Yes sounds good, and does make sense, but try putting it into practice, end up like Dave and lose your car and a overnight stay in a cell

Matthen

1,292 posts

151 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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grkify said:
Love it, this is hilarious! Buys car on finance doesn't pay tax then wants to take dvla to court. What's a years tax £500 max £1000 if its brand new but happy to spend money on pointless court case. Get back under your bridge troll.
Think he did... This thread was started 6.25 years ago.