RE: Coventry Company Buys Out Spyker

RE: Coventry Company Buys Out Spyker

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danger mouse

3,828 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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CPP are very very capable and their Coventry facilities are beyond impressive. I had the opportunity to have a look around a couple of years ago.

These are definitely some of the safer hands Spyker could have ended up in.

Well done CPP for getting public recognition for the work you do and have already been doing behind the scenes forever. I sincerely hope this is a constructive project and not some grubby little money shuffle as has been suggested above. The UK desperately needs this kind of industry rebirth so I for one am hopeful about this.

B10

1,238 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Evo, I was replying to Escort-S130 who said "I agree, seems the biritsh only do well in building houses, office spaces or restaurants and fried chicken shops. Manufacturing in the UK is dead." Not only can he not spell his own country but he is utterly incorrect. As I have said he is talking nonsense given our position as the 6th largest manufacturing country.

As for specialist car manufacture we have indeed lost many but have also many new ones. Compared to most other countries we have far more. It is a very difficult business to be in and getting more difficult due to legislation and customer demands. I concur and wish them every success.

AyBee

10,535 posts

202 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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I wonder why they've done that - just a separation of assets so that Saab and Spyker aren't owned by the same company?

Fingers crossed that they'll keep making gorgeous cars!

The Hypno-Toad

12,283 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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HowMuchLonger said:
So Spyker buy Saab, then sell Spyker. What was the point in buying Saab then?
That's easy

The leading management of Spyker buy Saab for 2p and then borrow huge amounts of money from the banks and the EU to keep it going.

The leading management of Spyker then pay themselves massive wages out of the money they've got from the banks/EU while actually investing very little in the product, the plant or the marketing.

The leading management of Spyker then sell the only tangible asset they have in order to ring fence any capital for themselves before....

Saab come crashing down, leaving massive debts and hundreds of people out of work, while the EU tax-payers and the banks shareholders pick up the tab. (How many new shape 9-5s have you actually seen on the road?)

Leaving the leading management of Spyker to say "Sorry everyone," before riding off into the sunset secure in the knowledge that they'll never have to work again while everyone else who spent their lives working for a once proud brand is left penniless, unemployed and wondering how they are going to put food on the table.

Its called Doing A Rover.

And now here's Tom with the weather... How's it looking, Tom?

Alfa Male

389 posts

252 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Dutch press is reporting Spyker being sold to Antonov. Are they related to the company in this item?

ellisd82

685 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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The Hypno-Toad said:
HowMuchLonger said:
So Spyker buy Saab, then sell Spyker. What was the point in buying Saab then?
That's easy

The leading management of Spyker buy Saab for 2p and then borrow huge amounts of money from the banks and the EU to keep it going.

The leading management of Spyker then pay themselves massive wages out of the money they've got from the banks/EU while actually investing very little in the product, the plant or the marketing.

The leading management of Spyker then sell the only tangible asset they have in order to ring fence any capital for themselves before....

Saab come crashing down, leaving massive debts and hundreds of people out of work, while the EU tax-payers and the banks shareholders pick up the tab. (How many new shape 9-5s have you actually seen on the road?)

Leaving the leading management of Spyker to say "Sorry everyone," before riding off into the sunset secure in the knowledge that they'll never have to work again while everyone else who spent their lives working for a once proud brand is left penniless, unemployed and wondering how they are going to put food on the table.

Its called Doing A Rover.

And now here's Tom with the weather... How's it looking, Tom?
LOL...Futurama Name and Family Guy retort, love it.

27mil for 2 car companies sounds cheap, Specially when considering footballers sell for more, until you look at it in perspective. How many millions will it take to get the brand back to where it should be. MG are making a come back, so maybe Saab could succeed, I certainly hope so.

timewatch

881 posts

194 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Quote*.... Dutch supercar maker is now fully in British hands


That'll be it fked then!!!



TW>>>

djt100

1,735 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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richb77 said:
Bye Bye Spyker frown

Wont last long in British hands before its broke and filing for bankruptcy.

I hope i am wrong though.
Surely if this company were basicly producing te car for spyker then there is immediade cost cutting to be had, cutting out the middleman.

I really hope they do well, Spyker on my lottery win list. Beautiful cars.

king arthur

6,566 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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The Hypno-Toad said:
That's easy

The leading management of Spyker buy Saab for 2p and then borrow huge amounts of money from the banks and the EU to keep it going.

The leading management of Spyker then pay themselves massive wages out of the money they've got from the banks/EU while actually investing very little in the product, the plant or the marketing.

The leading management of Spyker then sell the only tangible asset they have in order to ring fence any capital for themselves before....

Saab come crashing down, leaving massive debts and hundreds of people out of work, while the EU tax-payers and the banks shareholders pick up the tab. (How many new shape 9-5s have you actually seen on the road?)

Leaving the leading management of Spyker to say "Sorry everyone," before riding off into the sunset secure in the knowledge that they'll never have to work again while everyone else who spent their lives working for a once proud brand is left penniless, unemployed and wondering how they are going to put food on the table.

Its called Doing A Rover.

And now here's Tom with the weather... How's it looking, Tom?
Just about sums it up. I don't know about Spyker, but can anyone really see Saab surviving another year?

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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£27M for the Spyker Sportscar company on its own, without Saab?

That must be one hell of a technology packed factory / operation they have, to justify that much money. Is there a lot of the F1 effort still kicking around, that is included in the price?

TORQ

188 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Great banter.

However fail to see how CPP can turn a profit from the initial purchase price of £27m? You will need to shift a few motors to get ROI.

Only ever seen 1 Spyker on the road, it was lovely, but rare.

vintageracer01

873 posts

175 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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HowMuchLonger said:
So Spyker buy Saab, then sell Spyker. What was the point in buying Saab then?
Somewhat bizarr twists, all that, isn't it?

jake15919

738 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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The Hypno-Toad said:
And now here's Tom with the weather... How's it looking, Tom?
IT GONNA RAIN. smile


By the way the weather guys name is Ollie Williams and the newsman is Tom Tucker.

The Hypno-Toad

12,283 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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jake15919 said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
And now here's Tom with the weather... How's it looking, Tom?
IT GONNA RAIN. smile


By the way the weather guys name is Ollie Williams and the newsman is Tom Tucker.
It wasn't actually a Family Guy reference, its a Bill Hicks reference but same difference. wink


jake15919

738 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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The Hypno-Toad said:
It wasn't actually a Family Guy reference, its a Bill Hicks reference but same difference. wink
Thanks. Hadn't heard that LSD story gag for ages. Looks like I wont be getting much work done this afternoon then. Youtube here I come. smile

tridave

249 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Whatever happened to the parts sharing agreement with Lotus, was meant to be chassis and suspension components.

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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No Lotus have moved on with the new direction into only using parts sourced through Lucan made of fairy dust and Goblin snot.

dinkel

26,951 posts

258 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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richb77 said:
Bye Bye Spyker frown

Wont last long in British hands before its broke and filing for bankruptcy.

I hope i am wrong though.
Antonov is keen in buying Spyker . . .

dandarez

13,286 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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B10 said:
Escort Si-130 said:
I agree, seems the biritsh only do well in building houses, office spaces or restaurants and fried chicken shops. Manufacturing in the UK is dead.

richb77 said:
Bye Bye Spyker frown

Wont last long in British hands before its broke and filing for bankruptcy.

I hope i am wrong though.
Both of you grow up, get better informed or move country. The UK is the 6th largest manufacturing country in the world....fact. It is twits like you and Clarkson who continue with these myths. Get out there and support our industries.
Ha ha.
We may well be the sixth largest manufacturing country in the world (not long ago we were the fourth!), but you need to go out and check just how much of it is owned and run by 'us'?

Virtually bugger all now!

So, reality is that it is NOT our industries. It gives employment which is about the only good thing, BUT there is a massive downside - a foreign-owned British company can suddenly decide to 'up and go', as has happened.

Edited by dandarez on Thursday 24th February 15:08

B10

1,238 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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timewatch said:
Quote*.... Dutch supercar maker is now fully in British hands


That'll be it fked then!!!



TW>>>
Grow up or post on TG's website.