Brand new Cerbera

Brand new Cerbera

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chris willy

197 posts

283 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Sorry to read that...
If you buy a used car from a dealer, you have 12 months warranty and if it's new you have 24 months warranty. That's european law.
I had something similar, when I bought my TVR 2007 from a TVR Main dealer in the UK. It takes nearly 3 years and a lot of patience to get some money back...
HTH

Regards chris

Edited by chris willy on Saturday 6th October 17:21

natben

2,743 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Latty666 said:
Takes some believing the car has only done 900 miles and the followers are worn! Are they made of lead or has the mileage been tampered with? Rather than spend on the s6 I'd have been tempted to go the whole hog and go down the route of a 4.7ajp making a very special brand new cerbera
Or he could bring it right up to date with a SP6 4.5L supersport, or get a SP6 FFF from Racing Green.



Edited by natben on Saturday 6th October 18:23

Englishman

2,215 posts

209 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Assuming it is the original engine and not a buggered one that was swapped in at some point so that the original, mint one could be sold separately for a tidy profit.
There is some evidence this is indeed what may have happened!

Here's the rebuilt one though. Wanted to keep to standard spec.


Mr Tank

5,797 posts

274 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Englishman said:
DonkeyApple said:
Assuming it is the original engine and not a buggered one that was swapped in at some point so that the original, mint one could be sold separately for a tidy profit.
There is some evidence this is indeed what may have happened!

Here's the rebuilt one though. Wanted to keep to standard spec.

David

If this is the case then the engine numbers would be different from the original documents and id plates!

Andy

LukeSi

5,753 posts

160 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Mr Tank said:
Englishman said:
DonkeyApple said:
Assuming it is the original engine and not a buggered one that was swapped in at some point so that the original, mint one could be sold separately for a tidy profit.
There is some evidence this is indeed what may have happened!

Here's the rebuilt one though. Wanted to keep to standard spec.

David

If this is the case then the engine numbers would be different from the original documents and id plates!

Andy
Depends on how much effort they went to hiding it. I imagine it is possible to completely swap the identity of two engines. Shame about the engine though when the rest of the car seems so good. You should have no more issues now though.

Brummmie

5,284 posts

220 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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chris willy said:
Sorry to read that...
If you buy a used car from a dealer, you have 12 months warranty and if it's new you have 24 months warranty. That's european law.
I had something similar, when I bought my TVR 2007 from a TVR Main dealer in the UK. It takes nearly 3 years and a lot of patience to get some money back...
HTH

Regards chris

Edited by chris willy on Saturday 6th October 17:21
I doubt it...

You buy a £200 car and get 1 yrs care free motoring???


Englishman

2,215 posts

209 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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LukeSi said:
Depends on how much effort they went to hiding it. I imagine it is possible to completely swap the identity of two engines. Shame about the engine though when the rest of the car seems so good. You should have no more issues now though.
Yep, as I say there is some evidence, can't say any more until the evidence is tested in court. Dom did say the engine had been out at least once, dismantled to some extent and put back together badly (gaskets and bolts non standard) which again would be 'unexpected' for a 970 mile engine.

chris willy

197 posts

283 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Brummmie said:
I doubt it...

You buy a £200 car and get 1 yrs care free motoring???
Hi Paul,
this is the reason why the dealers/companies sell the cheap cars only for export outside the EU and you never had a chance to buy a car really cheap.
In germany it's different if you buy as a company/businessman a car from a dealer/company, than you can exclude the warranty in the contract.

But as a private person, the dealer/company must give you by EU law 12 months warranty for a used and 24 months warranty for a new vehicle.
For you as a customer it's regardless if the dealer give you the warranty on his own or if he make a contract with an insurance company.

If you buy as a private person a car from a private owner, then you have no warranty...
Sorry for my english...

Regards
chris willy

alphaone

1,019 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Englishman said:
Yep, as I say there is some evidence, can't say any more until the evidence is tested in court. Dom did say the engine had been out at least once, dismantled to some extent and put back together badly (gaskets and bolts non standard) which again would be 'unexpected' for a 970 mile engine.

Thats shocking. Hope you get what you want out of it at the end.

Englishman

2,215 posts

209 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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One thing I could do with is some help decoding and/or records of engine numbers recorded against VIN numbers.(I have the decoding of VIN's but not engine numbers.) Thanks!

C3BER

4,714 posts

222 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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I think "nemesis" is the man you want

natben

2,743 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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It looks like the car discussed is for sale again!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...

How did the story end up.

Did Mr Tank get his deposit back?.

Did Englishman get his engine rebuild payed for by the seller.


simoncrowe

209 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Surely that can't be the same car? It says it's done 25000 miles?

Englishman

2,215 posts

209 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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It looks similar and has been for sale a while, but the subject of this thread is still with me. BTW, the company we both bought from went out of business so I (and I suspect Andy) didn't get any money back.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

235 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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Terrible shame that you weren't able to get some sort of justice.

Did you get the car sorted and running, etc?

Englishman

2,215 posts

209 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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Yep, the car is now really like the 'new' S6 Cerb I thought I was buying and cost about as much to get it there! Only offers over £35K please. smile